Is it just me or are THC levels going DOWN?!
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IIReignManII
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I dont think 30% is unreasonable at all with todays genetics
dandyrandy
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At my age I've smoked nasty brick. But occasionally up here in the Bible belt some weed was great. I remember some Panama red in 1970 that was right out of a Cheech and Chong movie. My buddy and I picked a zip of $35 weed from a friend who sold used cars. His dad owned the lot and sold weed. I was bitching because of the price. Back then you never test smoked. Look and smell was about it. Grab and go. Popo was busting everyone. Back to the story. My buddy and I burnt one on a back road driving through Amish country. Spaced for 15 minutes. Very interesting dope. But I wasn't burning an ounce a week like today. It takes a bit to move me now!
macsnax
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My comment was kind of generalized. But you know the type I'm talking about, that will argue over this stuff, lol. And I know what you mean about the psychedelic sativas, I had some weed a while back that got a little trippy and I can't remember what it was atm.
ChiefRunningPhist
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This was 1977.. Looks good, who doesn't like beans lol.. kk just joking, I'm sure there was some good stuff back then too, these were just supposedly the top 40 at the time..
I think we can agree on the average the potency, or at least THC% has increased throughout the years. All the selective breeding and crossing I have to imagine has only increased THC%. Maybe it wasn't 3-5% exactly, or for some in the know, but that's the info I have to go off of being an 80s baby, I go off of what's documented, and ime, the weed has only gotten better with time.
I think we can agree on the average the potency, or at least THC% has increased throughout the years. All the selective breeding and crossing I have to imagine has only increased THC%. Maybe it wasn't 3-5% exactly, or for some in the know, but that's the info I have to go off of being an 80s baby, I go off of what's documented, and ime, the weed has only gotten better with time.
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hotrodharley
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hotrodharley
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This is just half the picture. Seems people think we smoked it for no effect waiting for smarter younger people. What a laugh.
Ed Rosenthal, Jack Herer, Jorge Cervantes. What could those geezers know about cannabis. Right?
ANC
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Yeah, I spend a lot of time on facebook groups teaching local African guys how to grow better weed now.
It is great to see how fast people adapt if you can just break down the info small enough in one go, it is may way of paying back for years of weed they grew for me and risked their butts for.
It is great to see how fast people adapt if you can just break down the info small enough in one go, it is may way of paying back for years of weed they grew for me and risked their butts for.
dandyrandy
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My norml t-shirt from the 70's won't fit....
dandyrandy
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I think the early med states and later legal states really speeded up the thc increases etc. due to more open communications between growers. After tricky dick started his war on drugs everyone in my area went underground. Several I know busted for possession getting a couple years with usually 18 months suspended. 6 months for half a zip. If you talked. No talky you walky.
ChiefRunningPhist
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Hey man, just providing some data. I've heard Ed refuted pretty hard. As far as Jack Herer or Jorge, they are just names to me, I'm sure they had a large historical contribution to the industry, but I'm talking about % THC increase over the years. I don't think that's crazy nonsense. If these guys are as great as you revere them, then I'm assuming it's because of their influence on the potency of the herb via their breeding or some type of manipulation. This only bolsters my POV that weed started out being less potent than what it is now, time only increases the amount manipulation possible, so simply, more time = better product. That's pretty much my logic.
hotrodharley
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I’m not revering them. I’m just saying I was there and this is bullshit. I doubt a sample from back then has ever been analyzed and if it has I would question the preservation method of the sample. Further I live in Alaska and buy various bud for a break from my own. I can smoke an entire preroll of 26% or higher driving through the mountains from Fairbanks to my cabin and not feel it much at all. I’m telling you it’s not that different. That’s a 50 mile trip, buddy. Twisting, turning, climbing. Alaska State Troopers have been behind me more than once. That high THC? C’mon, man.
hotrodharley
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The man who taught me to shoe horses correctly spent much of the last half of his life buying old windmills in the SW USA and taking them to Africa. He would get a village to help with it all including using sandpoints hammered down to water and assembling the windmill. By the time he left they knew how to get water and had the equipment to do it. Mogens Rasmussen. May he RIP.
hantastic1
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getting flowers to test @ 30%+ THC is not unreasonable..
i was gifted a cut of strawberries n cream from exotic genetix that tested at 32.4% THC.
I think you need to get more upto date on cannabis
ChiefRunningPhist
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Do you think that certain strains are more potent than others? If so, how did they get that way? Did God make them that way? Do you think Jack Herer started out with the same potency strain that he ended with?
I'd agree with many here that some labs were/are not good eggs, but I don't think anyone here can really say what the max THC% can be. I also think that its been increasing despite the ambiguity coming from the "for profit" labs. A quick look at the weed tested that authorities confiscated throughout the years shows that.
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xtsho
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Hey now, that Acapulco Gold was some damn good smoke back in the day "it still is" and the real Thai sticks were awesome. Then there was the old school Hawaiian that would send you into space. I remember more than one occasion being so stoned that I could hardly function and even remember passing out a couple times in the summer when it was really hot and all baked on some Columbian Gold.
The thing with higher levels of THC is that peoples tolerances go up. People were getting just as high decades ago off of lower THC pot as they are today with higher THC pot. People build up a tolerance to THC so as the THC levels go up so do peoples tolerance levels. I purposely take a break now and again for a week or so from smoking. I've found that I get a much better high with less weed after taking a break. I don't disagree that THC levels are higher today in most cases than they were decades ago. But I don't think people are getting any higher. Because of peoples tolerance to THC they need more to get the same effect. If you stopped smoking for a month and then smoked nothing but say 13% THC after that month of abstinence you would likely get just as high as you do today with 27% THC weed.
macsnax
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That was my point but explained it way better than I did.Hey now, that Acapulco Gold was some damn good smoke back in the day "it still is" and the real Thai sticks were awesome. Then there was the old school Hawaiian that would send you into space. I remember more than one occasion being so stoned that I could hardly function and even remember passing out a couple times in the summer when it was really hot and all baked on some Columbian Gold.
The thing with higher levels of THC is that peoples tolerances go up. People were getting just as high decades ago off of lower THC pot as they are today with higher THC pot. People build up a tolerance to THC so as the THC levels go up so do peoples tolerance levels. I purposely take a break now and again for a week or so from smoking. I've found that I get a much better high with less weed after taking a break. I don't disagree that THC levels are higher today in most cases than they were decades ago. But I don't think people are getting any higher. Because of peoples tolerance to THC they need more to get the same effect. If you stopped smoking for a month and then smoked nothing but say 13% THC after that month of abstinence you would likely get just as high as you do today with 27% THC weed.
dandyrandy
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Now I'm a burned out old stoner. That's why I try to keep variety available. Helps a bit. This round sucks only 3 varieties. But the reserva prada a13 is quite the uplifting girl. Out of 12 beans 3 females. Damn my luck.
hotrodharley
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THC increased through good interbreeding. Also do not discount the improvement in nutrients, lighting technology and affordability and much better mediums. I’ll acknowledge a rise but I’m here to tell you it’s just as important to seek a strain with the terpene profiles that fit what the user is looking for. It really is that important.
Add: note the rise is also consistent with the increases in technology required to analyze materials.
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