Grrr...I need some help getting my clones to root!

[mustbetribbin]

I have never reached out to anyone for help before, mainly because of the fact I can research and find most answers myself, and also that I am fully capable to do things better than most except when it comes to cloning, I will admit defeat only because I have taken such a beating, a brutal beating at that I’m talking well over 100 cuttings from various strains, all healthy and striving mid veg late veg early flower I have tried everything possible I have read online, books, I know that there are some strains nearly impossible to clone, and auto flower strains are a no no, cutting on a angle 45 slicing the first layer of stem, splitting it in the middle, rooting gel, powder, Epson salt rain water, homemade bubble cloner, nothing I do works, but there is one thing I just thought of since we are talking genetics, and creating a new life, I do have 4 children out there so I know I have something very fertile, I just don’t want to say what I’m thinking of doing, lmfao I can’t believe this fucking shit I’m way too stoned for this, but wtf you never know right? someone please help I’m having a problem

Here's what I recommend you do @Cash_Crop (Welcome 2 RIU)Take your clone cuttings 1-2 hrs after lights out, don't cut clones off during lights on wait until the plant is asleep for the night.

Give the cuttings around 4 1/2 - 6hrs darkness before the lights come back on, and be sure to find a lower light intensity for your clones for the first week or so, I find I can increase the light intensity by moving individual plants closer to the light source, this is the beauty of soil growing I suppose, kiss method mostly lol, if I see a lot of green growth up top this is when I know the plant is ready for (growth)a slight increase in light and increased photon absorbsion ect.

Next step scrape a few of the outer fibers (as others have previously mentioned) from the bottom 1-2 inches of the cutting, or try and peel one of the lower leaf stems downwards to fray off a few fibers that way, I usually scrap 2 or 3 separate spots but not the entire bottom, although I've heard that n the thicker cuttings it's best to scrape the entire bottom fibers off a bit to expose that area and speed up root growth on larger cuttings, haven't tested this last method just yet but I will be testing it out soon .

I've only cloned in either a glass of water or a cup/pot of dirt so far myself, but the water clones were from tomato plants, and I'd probably just clone them in dirt if I had known better, ha ha, now when I say dirt, I mean a mixture of promix and real soil, plus perlite and a bit of other various organic materials added in, the soil mix just needs to be basic and mild, I just blend mine by hand until the desire consistency is reached, and the allow the mix to cook for at least a month, at least this is what I've had better success with, not that you couldn't have a clone survive in a hastened mixture, but cooking the soil blend is a good way to be sure the soil has reached a mild consistency for those new clone roots to grow into.

So I cut the clone in the dark, just me a pair of small scissors and a dim flashlight and I take the cutting, I go out to my area where my soil is and is quickly prepare the cut with soil, scrape a few fibers with a blade on the bottom 2", pour soil around it, the fast as I can grab the water and get her hydrated lol, I then let the clone rest in about 3 inchs of soil, I don't fill the cups entirely, for seeds or clones for that matter, but I make sure the cutting is completely saturated (dripping wet, oh yeah) and then I don't add water for about 4 days, and when I water I go by the weight of the cup usually, but on clones and seedlings I've been watering with a spray bottle, and I give them about 5-6 sprays on the 4th day or so, if I rehydrate them until they drip out the bottom, they seem to not fair so well, so I've tried to just master hydrating them until the saturation point is reached or very close to it, without letting them drip, seemed to have grown better and not die rather. (Also be sure the room where you take the clone into or mix the soil for it is barely lit, lowered intensity ambient light, keep that clone asleep during transplant )

I have not used bottom heat yet, which is probably a mistake but my new veg room is currently being built and I've been short on space, got clones in seedling room currently, yeah but anyhow I'm wondering if bottom heat is good right from the start, or would waiting a couple/few days be better for the applied bottom heat, but I have heard 75-80 to work well and give a boost, I'll be back on top of things soon lol.

I saved the very first step I do for clone cuttings for last , what I do is I trim any leaves from off of the cutting around 8-12hrs before hand, I don't cut any leaves off the cutting afterwards, this is done before hand, and I usually leave about 3-4 leaves up top but any larger leaves are removed, it lowers the stress level to the cutting, less area to spend time completing photosynthesis and more time/energy to expend into growing new roots, if the leaves are too large it can kill the clone cutting, at least that's what I've experienced so far in soil, but they also grow faster and more robust if you find the sweet spot and don't remove too much leaf either...but by trimming the leaves of beforehand it allows for the entire plant to respond to the leaves being removed, and the cutting can then be partially healed while the main cut from the mother plant is the focal point that the cutting can then focus on, and not several cuts all at once.

Let me know if I can be further assistance, I'd be glad to clarify or elaborate on anything I've mentioned so far. Looks like you've got some excellent assistance here already, I just wanted to add what I was able, take care y'all.

 

[mustbetribbin]

Go to a flourecent, lighting can make a big difference. You can literally clone next to a window that doesn't get direct light. And the heat mat, give it a go and you should see some different results.

Hey macsnax, I wanted to say I agree with the fluorescent for clones, I actually use and older bulb in my single tube 24" florescent setup for seedlings and clones (at least for the next week or so til my other space is finished) and along with the fluorescent I've got a 7watt incandescent bulb in my little grow cabinet, 1/3 incandescent to 2/3rds fluorescent is what Ive found to assist in completing the spectrum, but I would use maybe a 25watt in a larger space, just the heat issue which is why I currently just run a tiny 7 watt, and I've found it to keep plants healthier than the flouro by itself, and the seedlings don't stretch so much either, balanced growth if you will, ha ha.

One thing I will mention about flouros and the spectrum they emit, (same goes for LED) the higher the color temperature the further the bulb needs to be away from the plant, so if you run say a 6500k flouro bulb for instance, you will want the light close to 2 1/2 feet away from the seedlings or clones, where as a 5000k spectrum bulb is not releasing such high energy wavelengths it can be kept at 2 feet so 6" closer, give or take, and so on, lastly a 2700k bulb could be kept much closer, but the draw back is that this spectrum is too heavy in red-orange light and isn't the best for Veg growth, blue green and white are best for Veg (apparently) but I just want to steer you in the right direction (@Cash_Crop)as far as spectrum and understanding that Violet/Blue light packs more punch than Orange/Red light does, hence why HPS lights can be very close to plants without harming to foliage, especially air cooled bulb setups etc.

Happy medicating / friends.

 

[SchmoeJoe]

I have never reached out to anyone for help before, mainly because of the fact I can research and find most answers myself, and also that I am fully capable to do things better than most except when it comes to cloning, I will admit defeat only because I have taken such a beating, a brutal beating at that I’m talking well over 100 cuttings from various strains, all healthy and striving mid veg late veg early flower I have tried everything possible I have read online, books, I know that there are some strains nearly impossible to clone, and auto flower strains are a no no, cutting on a angle 45 slicing the first layer of stem, splitting it in the middle, rooting gel, powder, Epson salt rain water, homemade bubble cloner, nothing I do works, but there is one thing I just thought of since we are talking genetics, and creating a new life, I do have 4 children out there so I know I have something very fertile, I just don’t want to say what I’m thinking of doing, lmfao I can’t believe this fucking shit I’m way too stoned for this, but wtf you never know right? someone please help I’m having a problem

I think this is probably the longest single sentence I've ever seen.

 

[Cash_Crop]

I have lost many clones in the process of learning cloning. The main killer I have seen is over saturation. I would not use a bubble cloner, if you can't keep the temp down you lose a lot of clones to root rot or their stems die before spawning good roots. The pumps keep the cloner too high temp.

Macsnax has a lot of great info, I would follow his advice. If you don't want to use rockwool, starter cubes or moist coco works also. The old school propagation chamber is the way to go.

Here's what I recommend you do @Cash_Crop (Welcome 2 RIU)Take your clone cuttings 1-2 hrs after lights out, don't cut clones off during lights on wait until the plant is asleep for the night.

Give the cuttings around 4 1/2 - 6hrs darkness before the lights come back on, and be sure to find a lower light intensity for your clones for the first week or so, I find I can increase the light intensity by moving individual plants closer to the light source, this is the beauty of soil growing I suppose, kiss method mostly lol, if I see a lot of green growth up top this is when I know the plant is ready for (growth)a slight increase in light and increased photon absorbsion ect.

Next step scrape a few of the outer fibers (as others have previously mentioned) from the bottom 1-2 inches of the cutting, or try and peel one of the lower leaf stems downwards to fray off a few fibers that way, I usually scrap 2 or 3 separate spots but not the entire bottom, although I've heard that n the thicker cuttings it's best to scrape the entire bottom fibers off a bit to expose that area and speed up root growth on larger cuttings, haven't tested this last method just yet but I will be testing it out soon .

I've only cloned in either a glass of water or a cup/pot of dirt so far myself, but the water clones were from tomato plants, and I'd probably just clone them in dirt if I had known better, ha ha, now when I say dirt, I mean a mixture of promix and real soil, plus perlite and a bit of other various organic materials added in, the soil mix just needs to be basic and mild, I just blend mine by hand until the desire consistency is reached, and the allow the mix to cook for at least a month, at least this is what I've had better success with, not that you couldn't have a clone survive in a hastened mixture, but cooking the soil blend is a good way to be sure the soil has reached a mild consistency for those new clone roots to grow into.

So I cut the clone in the dark, just me a pair of small scissors and a dim flashlight and I take the cutting, I go out to my area where my soil is and is quickly prepare the cut with soil, scrape a few fibers with a blade on the bottom 2", pour soil around it, the fast as I can grab the water and get her hydrated lol, I then let the clone rest in about 3 inchs of soil, I don't fill the cups entirely, for seeds or clones for that matter, but I make sure the cutting is completely saturated (dripping wet, oh yeah) and then I don't add water for about 4 days, and when I water I go by the weight of the cup usually, but on clones and seedlings I've been watering with a spray bottle, and I give them about 5-6 sprays on the 4th day or so, if I rehydrate them until they drip out the bottom, they seem to not fair so well, so I've tried to just master hydrating them until the saturation point is reached or very close to it, without letting them drip, seemed to have grown better and not die rather. (Also be sure the room where you take the clone into or mix the soil for it is barely lit, lowered intensity ambient light, keep that clone asleep during transplant )

I have not used bottom heat yet, which is probably a mistake but my new veg room is currently being built and I've been short on space, got clones in seedling room currently, yeah but anyhow I'm wondering if bottom heat is good right from the start, or would waiting a couple/few days be better for the applied bottom heat, but I have heard 75-80 to work well and give a boost, I'll be back on top of things soon lol.

I saved the very first step I do for clone cuttings for last , what I do is I trim any leaves from off of the cutting around 8-12hrs before hand, I don't cut any leaves off the cutting afterwards, this is done before hand, and I usually leave about 3-4 leaves up top but any larger leaves are removed, it lowers the stress level to the cutting, less area to spend time completing photosynthesis and more time/energy to expend into growing new roots, if the leaves are too large it can kill the clone cutting, at least that's what I've experienced so far in soil, but they also grow faster and more robust if you find the sweet spot and don't remove too much leaf either...but by trimming the leaves of beforehand it allows for the entire plant to respond to the leaves being removed, and the cutting can then be partially healed while the main cola from the mother plant is the focal point that the cutting can then focus on, and not several cuts all at once.

Let me know if I can be further assistance, I'd be glad to clarify or elaborate on anything I've mentioned so far. Looks like you've got some excellent assistance here already, I just wanted to add what I was able, take care y'all.

@ Grim - Thanks for your additional information it makes sense to prep the cutting before actually cutting the cutting off the mother, less shock, I can’t wait to try this. Also I have 3 cuttings off my lemon haze from the bottom small branches that have immature buds on them, I kept the leaves and little buds on in a cup of water with about an inch or 2 of water in it on my window ledge it has been there for a week and they are healthy looking I noticed the bottom stem where I cut looks like a white ball on the end and I don’t see anything emerging from the sides of the stem. Do you think that the white is a sign of roots to come?

 

[TintEastwood]

I have never reached out to anyone for help before, mainly because of the fact I can research and find most answers myself, and also that I am fully capable to do things better than most except when it comes to cloning, I will admit defeat only because I have taken such a beating, a brutal beating at that I’m talking well over 100 cuttings from various strains, all healthy and striving mid veg late veg early flower I have tried everything possible I have read online, books, I know that there are some strains nearly impossible to clone, and auto flower strains are a no no, cutting on a angle 45 slicing the first layer of stem, splitting it in the middle, rooting gel, powder, Epson salt rain water, homemade bubble cloner, nothing I do works, but there is one thing I just thought of since we are talking genetics, and creating a new life, I do have 4 children out there so I know I have something very fertile, I just don’t want to say what I’m thinking of doing, lmfao I can’t believe this fucking shit I’m way too stoned for this, but wtf you never know right? someone please help I’m having a problem

This method helped rid me of the Grrr.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300255&page=5
DJM Coco Trees - Page 5.

 

[Cash_Crop]

I think this is probably the longest single sentence I've ever seen.

@SchmoeJoe s probably the biggest bird on Rollitup, instead of answering my question he wants to count comas and look for periods, we are growing marijuana not trying to major in English. Keep your comments to yourself next time if you don’t have anything productive to ad to this thread.

 

[Nizza]

http://www.oxyclone.com/
i use one of these with tap water, no additives
I found after lots of cloning, the hormones work but aren't needed especially when cloning bubble/aero ponically.
I used to have an aeroponic cloner I built. It worked a bit better maybe, but the bubble cloner is far smaller and easier to maintain. I don't mind waiting an extra day or two to wait for roots.

100$ for a cloner like this may seem like alot but it's well built and easy to clean. The biggest things when cloning this way..
-No dome needed
-clean, correct temperature tap water (around 70f)
-change water 1x weekly. Clean entire unit and run pump with soapy / bleach water every time before using , rinse, then fill .
- Set flooming pump at the very top of the water to really ripple that shit up!
-set one airstone under the intake of the submersible flooming pump and one on the other side. also offset this pump so it vortexes the water a little
-be sure to use a fluorescent light source not closer than 12"of the foliage. Any closer will force them to try to grow instead of root. Light cycle is 24/7
- If using HID/ LED's go 3x the recommended distance for example a 1 foot away fixture should be about 3' away. if you don't have the height restriction to do this it can be done with a simple lamp and compact fluorescent bulb or LED bulb. These screw into normal light sockets so you could rig something up with a lamp and a cheap bulb
- air temp should be 70-80 water temp around 70

 

[70's natureboy]

Clone King. The instructions are one paragraph. For $80 anybody can clone like a king.

 

[Cash_Crop]

Here's what I recommend you do @Cash_Crop (Welcome 2 RIU)Take your clone cuttings 1-2 hrs after lights out, don't cut clones off during lights on wait until the plant is asleep for the night.

Give the cuttings around 4 1/2 - 6hrs darkness before the lights come back on, and be sure to find a lower light intensity for your clones for the first week or so, I find I can increase the light intensity by moving individual plants closer to the light source, this is the beauty of soil growing I suppose, kiss method mostly lol, if I see a lot of green growth up top this is when I know the plant is ready for (growth)a slight increase in light and increased photon absorbsion ect.

Next step scrape a few of the outer fibers (as others have previously mentioned) from the bottom 1-2 inches of the cutting, or try and peel one of the lower leaf stems downwards to fray off a few fibers that way, I usually scrap 2 or 3 separate spots but not the entire bottom, although I've heard that n the thicker cuttings it's best to scrape the entire bottom fibers off a bit to expose that area and speed up root growth on larger cuttings, haven't tested this last method just yet but I will be testing it out soon .

I've only cloned in either a glass of water or a cup/pot of dirt so far myself, but the water clones were from tomato plants, and I'd probably just clone them in dirt if I had known better, ha ha, now when I say dirt, I mean a mixture of promix and real soil, plus perlite and a bit of other various organic materials added in, the soil mix just needs to be basic and mild, I just blend mine by hand until the desire consistency is reached, and the allow the mix to cook for at least a month, at least this is what I've had better success with, not that you couldn't have a clone survive in a hastened mixture, but cooking the soil blend is a good way to be sure the soil has reached a mild consistency for those new clone roots to grow into.

So I cut the clone in the dark, just me a pair of small scissors and a dim flashlight and I take the cutting, I go out to my area where my soil is and is quickly prepare the cut with soil, scrape a few fibers with a blade on the bottom 2", pour soil around it, the fast as I can grab the water and get her hydrated lol, I then let the clone rest in about 3 inchs of soil, I don't fill the cups entirely, for seeds or clones for that matter, but I make sure the cutting is completely saturated (dripping wet, oh yeah) and then I don't add water for about 4 days, and when I water I go by the weight of the cup usually, but on clones and seedlings I've been watering with a spray bottle, and I give them about 5-6 sprays on the 4th day or so, if I rehydrate them until they drip out the bottom, they seem to not fair so well, so I've tried to just master hydrating them until the saturation point is reached or very close to it, without letting them drip, seemed to have grown better and not die rather. (Also be sure the room where you take the clone into or mix the soil for it is barely lit, lowered intensity ambient light, keep that clone asleep during transplant )

I have not used bottom heat yet, which is probably a mistake but my new veg room is currently being built and I've been short on space, got clones in seedling room currently, yeah but anyhow I'm wondering if bottom heat is good right from the start, or would waiting a couple/few days be better for the applied bottom heat, but I have heard 75-80 to work well and give a boost, I'll be back on top of things soon lol.

I saved the very first step I do for clone cuttings for last , what I do is I trim any leaves from off of the cutting around 8-12hrs before hand, I don't cut any leaves off the cutting afterwards, this is done before hand, and I usually leave about 3-4 leaves up top but any larger leaves are removed, it lowers the stress level to the cutting, less area to spend time completing photosynthesis and more time/energy to expend into growing new roots, if the leaves are too large it can kill the clone cutting, at least that's what I've experienced so far in soil, but they also grow faster and more robust if you find the sweet spot and don't remove too much leaf either...but by trimming the leaves of beforehand it allows for the entire plant to respond to the leaves being removed, and the cutting can then be partially healed while the main cut from the mother plant is the focal point that the cutting can then focus on, and not several cuts all at once.

Let me know if I can be further assistance, I'd be glad to clarify or elaborate on anything I've mentioned so far. Looks like you've got some excellent assistance here already, I just wanted to add what I was able, take care y'all.

Great Advice @Mustbetribbon, I have a lot of new things to try, and I can’t belive how fast of a response I got from some experienced growers, this is really impressive and y’all are actually liking the advice I’m getting so it makes me feel confident doing this, I appreciate it like you wouldn’t belive, I don’t have a social life I just work all the time, and take care of my wife and 3 small kids, the people I associate with I can’t talk about this nor do they know what I do, anyways there is no way anyone I know can help me, Thank you everyone for looking out!

 

[The Gram Reaper]

@SchmoeJoe s probably the biggest bird on Rollitup, instead of answering my question he wants to count comas and look for periods, we are growing marijuana not trying to major in English. Keep your comments to yourself next time if you don’t have anything productive to ad to this thread.

@ Grim - Thanks for your additional information it makes sense to prep the cutting before actually cutting the cutting off the mother, less shock, I can’t wait to try this. Also I have 3 cuttings off my lemon haze from the bottom small branches that have immature buds on them, I kept the leaves and little buds on in a cup of water with about an inch or 2 of water in it on my window ledge it has been there for a week and they are healthy looking I noticed the bottom stem where I cut looks like a white ball on the end and I don’t see anything emerging from the sides of the stem. Do you think that the white is a sign of roots to come?

Using punctuation and new paragraphs helps break up your post so people can read it easier and understand the issue. A block of text with no punctuation in very uninviting, some people see it and just back out of the thread.

I have favored using starter corks and coco to make clones for a while, you don't get to see the root start, its more faith based lol. I don't know if I have roots until they protrude out the medium. A good sign of rooting is the plant starting new growth and having the strength to hold its leaves up toward the light.

When I ran a bubble cloner and could see the stem, the roots would start as a very small ball/dot on the stem. I am not sure if what you have is a root, but it sounds similar to my experience with it.

 

[Cash_Crop]

Using punctuation and new paragraphs helps break up your post so people can read it easier and understand the issue. A block of text with no punctuation in very uninviting, some people see it and just back out of the thread.

I have favored using starter corks and coco to make clones for a while, you don't get to see the root start, its more faith based lol. I don't know if I have roots until they protrude out the medium. A good sign of rooting is the plant starting new growth and having the strength to hold its leaves up toward the light.

When I ran a bubble cloner and could see the stem, the roots would start as a very small ball/dot on the stem. I am not sure if what you have is a root, but it sounds similar to my experience with it.

That’s good to know, about the way I write. I’m not use to writing, and ever meant to confuse anyone and def I want to attract as many friends on here as possible. after the ball forms roots shoot out of the ball? I have been trying hard to clone my mothers and putting stress on them so much is almost heartbreaking, I think I’m gonna just start to flower all them and start some seeds I got at least a thousand of them...lol

 

[The Gram Reaper]

That’s good to know, about the way I write. I’m not use to writing, and ever meant to confuse anyone and def I want to attract as many friends on here as possible. after the ball forms roots shoot out of the ball? I have been trying hard to clone my mothers and putting stress on them so much is almost heartbreaking, I think I’m gonna just start to flower all them and start some seeds I got at least a thousand of them...lol

In my experience it does, but I have not cloned marijuana from sitting it in fresh water. It works for a lot of other plants.

Have you thought about starter cubes? They come the right amount of moisture to clone with, right out of the bag. If you keep them in a humidity dome and mist them daily they stay moist. Once the plant shows signs of growth, I water them. Or if the cube dries too much I add a little to re moisten. Not having excessive available water makes them send a root out to search for it. My first clone run like this was 50 clones, over watered them and only 20 made it.

You could probably put your ones that look to be starting rooting into the cubes and get rooting. Best of luck to you.

 

[Mak'er Grow]

I think I’m gonna just start to flower all them and start some seeds I got at least a thousand of them...lol

Thats how I figured out cloning...cheap n easy...lol
Took a bag seed and grew it up...chopped it up as I needed...after a few tries I got it working...surely you will too I'm sure.
I now use a very cheap homemade "cloner" if you can call it that...cost about $2 to make and about 0.20-0.25 cents each clone(Canadian$)...will try to post some pics tomorrow for ya.
So get some seeds going (ones that have really no value) and get lots of branches on it...done yet ?
Heres a couple I had last week. I forgot to water the rockwool until the next morning, but some how they rooted above it...pics below

 

[Cash_Crop]

Thats how I figured out cloning...cheap n easy...lol
Took a bag seed and grew it up...chopped it up as I needed...after a few tries I got it working...surely you will too I'm sure.
I now use a very cheap homemade "cloner" if you can call it that...cost about $2 to make and about 0.20-0.25 cents each clone(Canadian$)...will try to post some pics tomorrow for ya.
So get some seeds going (ones that have really no value) and get lots of branches on it...done yet ?
Heres a couple I had last week. I forgot to water the rockwool until the next morning, but some how they rooted above it...pics below

I will definitely I just started some white gold seeds about a month ago and 2 of 5 made it becasue my 5 year old likes to water my plants when I’m not looking and pull the small fragile little babies so hard they rip in half and never recover...also what do you think about milk crates to grow in?

 

[Cash_Crop]

In my experience it does, but I have not cloned marijuana from sitting it in fresh water. It works for a lot of other plants.

Have you thought about starter cubes? They come the right amount of moisture to clone with, right out of the bag. If you keep them in a humidity dome and mist them daily they stay moist. Once the plant shows signs of growth, I water them. Or if the cube dries too much I add a little to re moisten. Not having excessive available water makes them send a root out to search for it. My first clone run like this was 50 clones, over watered them and only 20 made it.

You could probably put your ones that look to be starting rooting into the cubes and get rooting. Best of luck to you.

Thanks Grim, I am fully armed with ammunition (knowledge)when it’s time to start cutting. I will be for sure cutting some of my outdoor haze plants tonight as they are in mid flower the bottom branches are still premature with long white pistols though do you think they will root, I have read about monster cropping when you take from plants into flowering they turn into branching monsters, with mega cola spots.

 

[Cash_Crop]

Here's what I recommend you do @Cash_Crop (Welcome 2 RIU)Take your clone cuttings 1-2 hrs after lights out, don't cut clones off during lights on wait until the plant is asleep for the night.

Give the cuttings around 4 1/2 - 6hrs darkness before the lights come back on, and be sure to find a lower light intensity for your clones for the first week or so, I find I can increase the light intensity by moving individual plants closer to the light source, this is the beauty of soil growing I suppose, kiss method mostly lol, if I see a lot of green growth up top this is when I know the plant is ready for (growth)a slight increase in light and increased photon absorbsion ect.

Next step scrape a few of the outer fibers (as others have previously mentioned) from the bottom 1-2 inches of the cutting, or try and peel one of the lower leaf stems downwards to fray off a few fibers that way, I usually scrap 2 or 3 separate spots but not the entire bottom, although I've heard that n the thicker cuttings it's best to scrape the entire bottom fibers off a bit to expose that area and speed up root growth on larger cuttings, haven't tested this last method just yet but I will be testing it out soon .

I've only cloned in either a glass of water or a cup/pot of dirt so far myself, but the water clones were from tomato plants, and I'd probably just clone them in dirt if I had known better, ha ha, now when I say dirt, I mean a mixture of promix and real soil, plus perlite and a bit of other various organic materials added in, the soil mix just needs to be basic and mild, I just blend mine by hand until the desire consistency is reached, and the allow the mix to cook for at least a month, at least this is what I've had better success with, not that you couldn't have a clone survive in a hastened mixture, but cooking the soil blend is a good way to be sure the soil has reached a mild consistency for those new clone roots to grow into.

So I cut the clone in the dark, just me a pair of small scissors and a dim flashlight and I take the cutting, I go out to my area where my soil is and is quickly prepare the cut with soil, scrape a few fibers with a blade on the bottom 2", pour soil around it, the fast as I can grab the water and get her hydrated lol, I then let the clone rest in about 3 inchs of soil, I don't fill the cups entirely, for seeds or clones for that matter, but I make sure the cutting is completely saturated (dripping wet, oh yeah) and then I don't add water for about 4 days, and when I water I go by the weight of the cup usually, but on clones and seedlings I've been watering with a spray bottle, and I give them about 5-6 sprays on the 4th day or so, if I rehydrate them until they drip out the bottom, they seem to not fair so well, so I've tried to just master hydrating them until the saturation point is reached or very close to it, without letting them drip, seemed to have grown better and not die rather. (Also be sure the room where you take the clone into or mix the soil for it is barely lit, lowered intensity ambient light, keep that clone asleep during transplant )

I have not used bottom heat yet, which is probably a mistake but my new veg room is currently being built and I've been short on space, got clones in seedling room currently, yeah but anyhow I'm wondering if bottom heat is good right from the start, or would waiting a couple/few days be better for the applied bottom heat, but I have heard 75-80 to work well and give a boost, I'll be back on top of things soon lol.

I saved the very first step I do for clone cuttings for last , what I do is I trim any leaves from off of the cutting around 8-12hrs before hand, I don't cut any leaves off the cutting afterwards, this is done before hand, and I usually leave about 3-4 leaves up top but any larger leaves are removed, it lowers the stress level to the cutting, less area to spend time completing photosynthesis and more time/energy to expend into growing new roots, if the leaves are too large it can kill the clone cutting, at least that's what I've experienced so far in soil, but they also grow faster and more robust if you find the sweet spot and don't remove too much leaf either...but by trimming the leaves of beforehand it allows for the entire plant to respond to the leaves being removed, and the cutting can then be partially healed while the main cut from the mother plant is the focal point that the cutting can then focus on, and not several cuts all at once.

Let me know if I can be further assistance, I'd be glad to clarify or elaborate on anything I've mentioned so far. Looks like you've got some excellent assistance here already, I just wanted to add what I was able, take care y'all.

Hey bro , quick question? Do you think I could take clones from a flowering plant outdoors if the bottom branches are budding slower? I got a really strong gene that’s a monster still bit it really could of been a beast if I never Frye’s some many clones on her.

 

[The Gram Reaper]

I have not monster cropped yet, I just learned of it after joining the forum. I have seen budded cuts revert back to veg if they where just starting to bud. If they are just showing hairs, you should be good to get clones from. Might clone faster, even.

 

[Mak'er Grow]

Hey bro , quick question? Do you think I could take clones from a flowering plant outdoors if the bottom branches are budding slower? I got a really strong gene that’s a monster still bit it really could of been a beast if I never Frye’s some many clones on her.

I have taken a small left over popcorn bud off a harvested plant and rooted it and re-vegged it to a nice plant. I'm currently just re-growing a new mother from a clone off it.
Well I actually am in the process of re-vegging 8 tiny buds at the moment and dozen or so clones of 4 different strains...busy busy busy...lol
The basics of mine are shown in pic.
I melt holes in the cups with soldering iron.
Then glue 1 of 2 cups, per clone, to bottom of the cheapo dollar store foil pan (Or I use 2 lids).
Second one is loose inside the glued down one.
Pop in clones.
Water once until it runs out holes...then only when dry or close to dry. (Usually about every 3-5 days max)
Mist dome only when there no fog/condensation on the lid.
Within 8-12 days I usually see roots.
I take of the dome/top for a little for a day or so to harden them up again...slowly.
Plant them when the look strong.
I try to make my life as simple and easy and CHEAP as I can...lol

 

[Mak'er Grow]

I have taken a small left over popcorn bud off a harvested plant and rooted it and re-vegged it to a nice plant. I'm currently just re-growing a new mother from a clone off it.
Well I actually am in the process of re-vegging 8 tiny buds at the moment and dozen or so clones of 4 different strains...busy busy busy...lol
The basics of mine are shown in pic.
I melt holes in the cups with soldering iron.
Then glue 1 of 2 cups, per clone, to bottom of the cheapo dollar store foil pan (Or I use 2 lids).
Second one is loose inside the glued down one.
Pop in clones.
Water once until it runs out holes...then only when dry or close to dry. (Usually about every 3-5 days max)
Mist dome only when there no fog/condensation on the lid.
Within 8-12 days I usually see roots.
I take of the dome/top for a little for a day or so to harden them up again...slowly.
Plant them when the look strong.
I try to make my life as simple and easy and CHEAP as I can...lol

Forgot to mention how I get double my value on cubes...lol
I use a tube with filed edges (sharp) and I slide it over the cube to cut off edges so its now a tube...cut the tube in half and now you have 2 cubes that fit nicely in the shot glasses.

 

[mustbetribbin]

Hey bro , quick question? Do you think I could take clones from a flowering plant outdoors if the bottom branches are budding slower? I got a really strong gene that’s a monster still bit it really could of been a beast if I never Frye’s some many clones on her.

Hi cash_crop, yes you may take some cuttings from outdoor plants if you like, but it is much better if the plants are still in Veg and not in flowering yet, that is not to say that you can't get a flowering clone to revert back into Veg growth and grow it into a larger plant and then flower it out, but I took some cuttings from a flowering plant once earlier this year, and all they did was turn into little bushy single cone plants , like a single cola sticking out of the dirt, lol those were the ones I let my dad keep and they did ok, but I didn't put any extra light on them or anything.

so that was kind of my latest experiment on that side of things, and the buds took quite a while I'll add and never really ripened all the way, probably not the best example to mention, but if the plant is already in flower sometimes if you are too late in cutting them they will resort to flowering out and staying small and stunted for an extended period of time if they do eventually take off, might take more than a month to get them to snap back into veg if they haven't stunted, but I have read about someone on this forum collecting a cutting from a bud, an actual clone cutting with buds left on it and the member was able to revert the bud back into a growing plant and the reveged the plant and made more cuttings from it afterwards, lol, so you have options if it seems like there is no hope, with skill sometimes you can make it happen.