trump is officially the biggest fucking hypocrite in existance....

[Roger A. Shrubber]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/us/politics/trump-san-francisco-homeless.html


is this motherfucking idiot cocksucker serious? who the fuck caused these people to be homeless? who is trying to bend the entire country over so he can fuck us all in the ass? ...motherfucker, all the fucking gun nuts in this country, and not one of the fuckers can hate trump enough to blow his shit balloon of a head the fuck off? if he gets elected again, i'm punching anyone i ever see in a maga hat in the fucking nose, then i'm taking their hats and wiping my ass with it, and putting it back on their heads

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

and no, i didn't take a break to get any fucking nicer....

 

[Rob Roy]

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

it's nice to see that you're still an ignorant cocksucker....some things never change

 

[hanimmal]

I'd like to see a report on where all of these people who are homeless originated. Anything less than rounding all of them up and dumping them back into the states that they were born in is him being a hypocrite. I am sure a bus full of homeless being pushed out into McConnell's district might not go over as well though.

I am all for helping these people however they need it to live as safe and healthy a life as they can. But Trump has zero humanity or credibility left to think he can do a good job with it.

 

[Rob Roy]

I'd like to see a report on where all of these people who are homeless originated. Anything less than rounding all of them up and dumping them back into the states that they were born in is him being a hypocrite. I am sure a bus full of homeless being pushed out into McConnell's district might not go over as well though.

I am all for helping these people however they need it to live as safe and healthy a life as they can. But Trump has zero humanity or credibility left to think he can do a good job with it.

Some homelessness has government origins. For instance, inflation, zoning, licensure, regulation (codes, minimum wage etc. ) are part of the causation.

I'm sure you're about as interested in hearing why these things help cause homelessness as Bernie Sanders is to learn about economics.

 

[Rob Roy]

it's nice to see that you're still an ignorant cocksucker....some things never change

It's nice to see you too. Your cheerful demeanor is like a ray of sunshine.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

just a thought...
for millions of years, we were nomadic wanderers, following herds of game animals and moving with the weather. eventually, some of us started to stay in the same places, and develop the area they stayed in. this encouraged some more people to stay with them, or start their own settlements, but there were still nomadic wanderers...who started to be tradesmen, carrying things from one village to the other...who spread new types of seeds, knowledge of new farming techniques, new building techniques. they couldn't do these things themselves, but in describing it to those that could, they spread the knowledge...they had a purpose, a value...they helped tie communities together, even if the people in those communities never met....
now, those people have no use...there are no communities to tie together, the whole world is homogeneous...everyone has a phone in their pockets, so who needs a messenger? we can all look up how to do w/e it is we're trying to do, so who needs someone to tell us how?...
i am NOT saying homelessness is caused by a genetic defect...but i am saying there has to be a strong racial memory in some people that makes not having a "home" attractive...some people have the wanderlust on them, and that just doesn't fit in this "society"....

 

[hanimmal]

Some homelessness has government origins. For instance, inflation, zoning, licensure, regulation (codes, minimum wage etc. ) are part of the causation.

I'm sure you're about as interested in hearing why these things help cause homelessness as Bernie Sanders is to learn about economics.

Inflation might be a stretch since it would actually make it easier to pay off a home, unless you mean inflation stopping people from buying a home, but then there are other areas they could rent/buy that would be affordable. But sure the government has I'm sure caused some on accident, but the vast majority I would bet there is more going on that the government could actually help with.

I am good to have a good conversation about homelessness though, it is a scary thing for too many people and is obviously going to get Trumped here real soon, so we might as well start it now.

 

[Rob Roy]

Inflation might be a stretch since it would actually make it easier to pay off a home, unless you mean inflation stopping people from buying a home, but then there are other areas they could rent/buy that would be affordable. But sure the government has I'm sure caused some on accident, but the vast majority I would bet there is more going on that the government could actually help with.

I am good to have a good conversation about homelessness though, it is a scary thing for too many people and is obviously going to get Trumped here real soon, so we might as well start it now.

Inflation makes people on a low or fixed income, struggle to pay confiscatory taxes, since the oxymoronic "property taxes" rise to fund "government services" and pensions etc. Not to mention the oxymoronic "property tax" is a disincentive to home improvement for some people, since improvements cost them money, via an increase in property tax.

Also, the government claims to own all the land in some way or another and much of it is not allowed to be homesteaded, which is what people did naturally for eons.

As far as the other things I mentioned, which you stayed away from, that was probably a good thing on your part, since most of that is low hanging fruit and a connection between those things and why they cause homelessness is easy to make.

Of course some homelessness is caused by poor choices, but clearly government is the major cause.

 

[ttystikk]

I invite you all to get involved with your local coalitions to assist the homeless in your communities. Looking these people in the eye, talking to them and listening to their perspective will be highly enlightening to all of you; it certainly has been for me.

I help feed the homeless in my city through two programs and I'm involved with several others that provide outreach services to my local homeless community. I don't do it for credit or court ordered community service; I do it because there is a need and I can help. You can too and I encourage you to step up.

To oversimplify a bit, there are two basic presentations; there are those who want to get back on their feet after what's befallen them- and those reasons are many, the cracks in our social safety net are wide and the stories themselves are often scary close to home in a 'could happen to anyone' kind of way. These folks will do whatever they can to rejoin society and need specific and appropriate help to do so. Given proper support, they'll make the effort to get stable and get on with their life.

The other presentation are those who see outreach services as a buffet to support their grifter drifter, often drug addict lifestyle. They don't want to rejoin society because they're getting what they want from it without having to contribute. As you might expect, this population harbors most of those committing crimes associated with homeless populations.

Most homeless people are the first type, but often their needs are expensive, such as mental health services, drug addiction and recovery services, healthcare and the like. Convincing communities that it's worth paying for these services can be difficult- even when studies consistently show that the costs of dealing with people experiencing various complications of homelessness is greater than the combined cost of these services. It's even harder when local governments think buying homeless people bus tickets to somewhere else, to be someone else's problem, is a viable option when in reality that's just a form of social parasitism that should be firmly discouraged.

No one with money in our society should be allowed to get away with saying that such people 'aren't their problem'; that includes clowns like Jeff Bezos and the Walton gang, not to mention any number of rich fucks who hide behind Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman to somehow justify their greed and 'superiority' due to some crazy notions of 'merit', especially when most of them inherited their money.

Go spend some time helping homeless people. You'll quickly understand why I am such a staunch advocate of taxing the shit out of rich people and large, powerful corporations- or eating them.

 

[ttystikk]

Inflation makes people on a low or fixed income, struggle to pay confiscatory taxes, since the oxymoronic "property taxes" rise to fund "government services" and pensions etc. Not to mention the oxymoronic "property tax" is a disincentive to home improvement for some people, since improvements cost them money, via an increase in property tax.

Also, the government claims to own all the land in some way or another and much of it is not allowed to be homesteaded, which is what people did naturally for eons.

As far as the other things I mentioned, which you stayed away from, that was probably a good thing on your part, since most of that is low hanging fruit and a connection between those things and why they cause homelessness is easy to make.

Of course some homelessness is caused by poor choices, but clearly government is the major cause.

I invite you to get involved with a few programs or organisations to help homeless people in your community.

I can't wait to see how your self serving notions will change when confronted with reality.

 

[hanimmal]

Inflation makes people on a low or fixed income, struggle to pay confiscatory taxes, since the oxymoronic "property taxes" rise to fund "government services" and pensions etc. Not to mention the oxymoronic "property tax" is a disincentive to home improvement for some people, since improvements cost them money, via an increase in property tax.

Also, the government claims to own all the land in some way or another and much of it is not allowed to be homesteaded, which is what people did naturally for eons.

As far as the other things I mentioned, which you stayed away from, that was probably a good thing on your part, since most of that is low hanging fruit and a connection between those things and why they cause homelessness is easy to make.

Of course some homelessness is caused by poor choices, but clearly government is the major cause.

So you're talking about the elderly population? What percent of the homeless are the elderly?

I don't believe much homelessness is caused by poor decisions outside of short term displacement. I was technically homeless as a kid for about a year while my dad finished building our house out of desire to save money. People who are capable will find a place in society, especially now with the internet, finding jobs somewhere is getting easier. I think homelessness comes mostly from the people are not capable of finding where they fit into society. And for them, I think we would spend less money just helping them out for as long as they need it than to allow them to be homeless/imprisoned.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

I invite you to get involved with a few programs or organisations to help homeless people in your community.

I can't wait to see how your self serving notions will change when confronted with reality.

Have you found any really ugly women (because, as you say, they are less "trouble") you can turn out yet?

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/us/politics/trump-san-francisco-homeless.html


is this motherfucking idiot cocksucker serious? who the fuck caused these people to be homeless? who is trying to bend the entire country over so he can fuck us all in the ass? ...motherfucker, all the fucking gun nuts in this country, and not one of the fuckers can hate trump enough to blow his shit balloon of a head the fuck off? if he gets elected again, i'm punching anyone i ever see in a maga hat in the fucking nose, then i'm taking their hats and wiping my ass with it, and putting it back on their heads

That’s outrageous. You will definitely get on the news when you do that. It will go viral and you will be a national hero. I’ll be like shit man, I know that guy from trollitup. That’s that cat Roger A. Shrubbery, he grows some Dank ass weed. the Mans got some serious skills.
I can’t open the link because it’s the NYT cane you tell me what the violation includes? Thanks and great to see you Back and doing so well Rog!

 

[Rob Roy]

I invite you to get involved with a few programs or organisations to help homeless people in your community.

I can't wait to see how your self serving notions will change when confronted with reality.

Over the years I've helped many and housed several people who were homeless.

If my notions are self serving why do you suppose I want people to be able to make their own choices ?

You seem to take a more authoritarian approach to what you call charity, when it really relies on forced redistribution of other peoples property. Some people respond to charity better than others, meaning some appreciate it, while others expect / demand it.

 

[Rob Roy]

So you're talking about the elderly population? What percent of the homeless are the elderly?

I don't believe much homelessness is caused by poor decisions outside of short term displacement. I was technically homeless as a kid for about a year while my dad finished building our house out of desire to save money. People who are capable will find a place in society, especially now with the internet, finding jobs somewhere is getting easier. I think homelessness comes mostly from the people are not capable of finding where they fit into society. And for them, I think we would spend less money just helping them out for as long as they need it than to allow them to be homeless/imprisoned.

I'm saying if people were "allowed" to buy, build or purchase a home that is within their means, and there were not external government caused factors, which I previously mentioned, much if not most of the homelessness would be prevented. This is not only my opinion, it is a demonstrable fact.

Maybe later I'll come back and clean up the mess the day clowns will make of this thread and prove my points, which nobody will be able to refute. Have a great day!

 

[Rob Roy]

I help feed the homeless in my city through two programs and I'm involved with several others that provide outreach services to my local homeless community. I don't do it for credit or court ordered community service; I do it because there is a need and I can help. You can too and I encourage you to step up.

Thank you for doing this.

I donate excess produce to worthy causes, and don't need or want to join any organizations which affiliate with government oversite. It's foolish to seek permission to help homeless people from the entity that causes homelessness.

 

[hanimmal]

I invite you all to get involved with your local coalitions to assist the homeless in your communities. Looking these people in the eye, talking to them and listening to their perspective will be highly enlightening to all of you; it certainly has been for me.

I help feed the homeless in my city through two programs and I'm involved with several others that provide outreach services to my local homeless community. I don't do it for credit or court ordered community service; I do it because there is a need and I can help. You can too and I encourage you to step up.

To oversimplify a bit, there are two basic presentations; there are those who want to get back on their feet after what's befallen them- and those reasons are many, the cracks in our social safety net are wide and the stories themselves are often scary close to home in a 'could happen to anyone' kind of way. These folks will do whatever they can to rejoin society and need specific and appropriate help to do so. Given proper support, they'll make the effort to get stable and get on with their life.

Life comes quick and hard. Usually it is generally pretty easy, but at those times we are not good at getting those people the help they need in time. I really think as much a pain in the butt politically we find all the instant communication technologies and ability to use A.I. to find patterns, this is one area it can really help a lot. It would not be hard to set up a system to give people several options throughout the country, from place they could move into, job they would have, schools for their kids, transportation, and get them on their way when they decide the right one for them.

The other presentation are those who see outreach services as a buffet to support their grifter drifter, often drug addict lifestyle. They don't want to rejoin society because they're getting what they want from it without having to contribute. As you might expect, this population harbors most of those committing crimes associated with homeless populations.

I think it is still easier and benefits society more to just pay for them to have what they need and help their children to become productive members of society. Make sure the kids have food/clothes/as safe a place to sleep as possible with their family.

Most homeless people are the first type, but often their needs are expensive, such as mental health services, drug addiction and recovery services, healthcare and the like. Convincing communities that it's worth paying for these services can be difficult- even when studies consistently show that the costs of dealing with people experiencing various complications of homelessness is greater than the combined cost of these services. It's even harder when local governments think buying homeless people bus tickets to somewhere else, to be someone else's problem, is a viable option when in reality that's just a form of social parasitism that should be firmly discouraged.

Basically that is what Reagan shut down all of the mental hospitals (not that I don't have deep concerns about a institution that prior would lock up and abuse women) Carter got built to pay for his Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only bases tax cut. Is there studies of how to best house these folks, they would need centralized care I would think, at least resources, we have to have better ideas than just locking people up at this point.

No one with money in our society should be allowed to get away with saying that such people 'aren't their problem'; that includes clowns like Jeff Bezos and the Walton gang, not to mention any number of rich fucks who hide behind Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman to somehow justify their greed and 'superiority' due to some crazy notions of 'merit', especially when most of them inherited their money.

Go spend some time helping homeless people. You'll quickly understand why I am such a staunch advocate of taxing the shit out of rich people and large, powerful corporations- or eating them.

I think the blame is misplaced. I don't think they can be lumped together, and aside from the normal % that seems to be serial killer capable, none of them are out to get anyone. I think the majority of them were born into it and have never had any reason to think about how to best spend the money hiring the right people to actually fix a problem to the point they would bother to take the time to learn enough about any issue not to just tweet about it and go back to whatever they were doing in the first place.

The ones that do take the time to tackle something in the world they think they can help, they have to prioritize doing something truly earth changing and how to actually go about doing it vs something they enjoy doing that they think they can help with the resources they can responsibly spend without giving their children less than they were given to them by their parents.

 

[UncleBuck]

Resident pedophile: go away

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