heaze2010
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Wow that is early mine were only at 4 weeks into flower at that time. I’m not sure what I would of done in that situation
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Blue Pirate
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Swift River: Cleanest, coldest and purest water around....Jabish Brook is fine too!
heaze2010
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The Quick Kush started flowering early-mid July, so it had about 6-7 weeks of flowering time. If it had stayed dry at the beginning of September, she would have finished up BEAUTIFULLY and yielded a fat pound of super dank O.G. Kush. Always next year; definitely trying that strain and some other fast versions (Photoperiod x Autoflower) next summer.
At least the weather is still nice for my other plant. A Stumbleweed from Getaway Mountain (Maine based guerrilla breeder). Chugging along with absolutely no mold, and enjoying the beautiful weather. I will post an update on her soon, she is a week or 2 from harvest.
BigSco508
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Sorta looks like the Mtn. Cut Oni used for their F2's on the Tropicana Cookies .
heaze2010
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It’s supposed to rain overnight tonight as well that sucks
dsmer
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That’s a depressing sight
heaze2010
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When you mentioned all the humidity lately I went outside and did an insane inspection on all the plants. And I found that spot, removed the bud and hit with peroxide. Hit it again tomorrow and go from there. I’ll chop before I let it spread
Blue Pirate
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Some may wonder why cannabis is at all susceptible to bud mold and whether it is in principle due to the quality of breeding. The answer to this question would be a yes and no.
On the one hand, a susceptibility to certain pests occurs in all species of plants, on the other hand, the natural resistance of a plant can be supported or also weakened by the breeding or cultivation method. The defense system of a plant can, for example, be weakened through consecutive breeding if the breeder is not working intensely towards preserving this trait. Unfortunately, in the cannabis seed industry the vitality and pest resistance of a strain rarely belongs to the major objectives of the breeder, so many modern varieties and hybrids show increased susceptibility to pests like Botrytis. In agriculture there are many species of plants also prone to Botrytis.
More than 7000 plant species alone can be attacked by grey mold and mildew. This problem is mainly fought against in professional agriculture and horticulture by the use of strong fungicides. Most fruits, vegetables and grains are extremely susceptible to grey mold (strawberries are a common example) and without regular chemical treatments they would yield only a fraction of the current crops. Because of the health risks, it is strongly recommended to refrain from treating flowering cannabis plants with fungicides. It is already a sad fact that our food is hopelessly contaminated, and even certified organic produce continuously suffers from chemical contamination scandals in most countries.
The genetics of the plant genus Cannabis sativa/indica essentially contributes to the risk of Botrytis and other forms of mold. Any plant or animal species should be cultivated and maintained according to it's natural habitat. An orchid thrives just as poorly in the desert, as a cactus in a tropical rain forest. But we expect from cannabis botanical wonders: that it grows in almost all latitudes of the world, or even in a PC case with a feeble light source, and remains healthy and flowers wonderfully throughout. In the long-term even this does not satisfy all expectations: modern varieties of cannabis must produce more and more resin (THC), be as high yielding as possible, but also grow absolutely homogeneous.
Once we awaken from this fairy-tale it's possible to be more realistic and orientate breeding and cultivation according to the biological conditioning. It has ensured the survival of the species over thousands of years and made it one of the hardiest "weeds" in nature. If we look at heirloom (ie. landrace) strains, then we notice they are perfectly adapted to their environment and accordingly possess strong defences. It is also rare that bud mold attacks hemp grown for fibre. Only when selective breeding of certain characteristics begins, or when Cannabis sativa/indica is introduced to foreign climate zones/conditions, the greatest problems with pest infestation and weakening of a plant's defences occur.
All three characteristics that many find desirable in modern cannabis strains contribute to this problem. Increased resin production, high yielding buds, and inbreeding required for true breeding homogenous strains, are major contributing factors which enhance the susceptibility of bud mold.
Blue Pirate
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It is completely unrealistic to expect a cannabis strain to be perfectly adapted to any or all types of climates. Especially in the northern hemisphere, or regions with a cold and wet climate, a cultivator must always firstly look at the suitability of a cannabis strain to grow and flower well under these conditions.
All other desired features such as taste, bud colour, potency, or effect, are secondary criteria.
If a strain is not specifically adapted to cope with cold, wet conditions and a short summer, the adverse environmental conditions are going to endanger your harvest expectations.
Similarly, if a strain cannot grow in a steamy, tropical country that has a 12 hour photoperiod throughout the year, this will also lead to frustrating results.
Without a decent harvest it is completely irrelevant if your strain has nice purple leaves, orange coloured buds, or a potentially wonderful taste...you can't enjoy a crop destroyed by bud mold or mildew.
Remember: YOU are responsible for the results due to choices you made in strain selection and plant care.
All other desired features such as taste, bud colour, potency, or effect, are secondary criteria.
If a strain is not specifically adapted to cope with cold, wet conditions and a short summer, the adverse environmental conditions are going to endanger your harvest expectations.
Similarly, if a strain cannot grow in a steamy, tropical country that has a 12 hour photoperiod throughout the year, this will also lead to frustrating results.
Without a decent harvest it is completely irrelevant if your strain has nice purple leaves, orange coloured buds, or a potentially wonderful taste...you can't enjoy a crop destroyed by bud mold or mildew.
Remember: YOU are responsible for the results due to choices you made in strain selection and plant care.
dsmer
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Found my first little spot of mold today too. I found a caterpillar inside the bud too so don’t know if that has anything to do with it. Luckily it hasn’t rained much but it’s a constant 80-90% humidity 24/7 here every day which sucks. Gonna set my fan up tomorrow and keep a constant breeze on them
Brother Sweetleaf
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Amen, Blue Pirate. Speak the truth, Brother.
Shit! Ya'll have me freaking out now! Haven't seen any rot yet but thinking I definitely need to inspect my big Indica girl tomorrow. Of course it's pouring rain right now and it's going to rain tomorrow and Thursday I believe. I'm in Vermont though so not sure if it's the same for all you Mass peeps.. pirate you speak the truth. I have a Thai stick and Sour Diesel going right now.. the diesel is chugging right along but they have had killer aphid problems. I don't like to spray chemicals so I've just been picking them off and using a light peppermint essential oil spray here and there.. My Indica barely any issues. Probably like you said due to the environment.. it's really coming down here!
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heaze2010
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Were supposed to get a quick shower overnight according to radar but I see Vermont close to Canada is getting hit and Maine is getting demolished right now
stealthfader508
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I honestly feel for you guys ... this is the most stressful time growing outdoors, watching the weather like a hawk and inspecting every inch of bud for any signs of rot ... even when it's not there your mind starts playing tricks on you.. I've spent so many years dealing with that
The best thing i ever did was build the greenhouse.. i get the dehuey running every night about 6pm and just leave the windows open about an inch or two.. outside RH is 90 but inside it stays about 68-72 consistently throughout the night, and they never get wet ... i let it run until about 9-10am then I shut it off and open all windows when the sun starts getting overhead... daytime RH has been around 35-45... I've had a slight bit of PM that I hit with a little h2o/baking soda mixture and it's gone right away... I can't imagine I'll see any bud rot (fingers crossed) keeping the RH so low
The best thing i ever did was build the greenhouse.. i get the dehuey running every night about 6pm and just leave the windows open about an inch or two.. outside RH is 90 but inside it stays about 68-72 consistently throughout the night, and they never get wet ... i let it run until about 9-10am then I shut it off and open all windows when the sun starts getting overhead... daytime RH has been around 35-45... I've had a slight bit of PM that I hit with a little h2o/baking soda mixture and it's gone right away... I can't imagine I'll see any bud rot (fingers crossed) keeping the RH so low
