Starting to get bud rot! Should i harvest?

waytoofaded

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Listen to the member that said it’ll just be leaves and pistils. It might get you high for all of 2 days before you won’t feel anything at all. Whatever trichomes are there will not have looked like a mushroom yet, so you won’t even have much THC-A let alone THC. I’d much rather gamble on letting it go atleast another 2-3 weeks than to flush 3.5 months down the drain for maybe 14 grams of immature flower.

But these threads most of the time are opened looking for confirmation moreso than an honest opinion. You know your situation better than anyone on here, so if you feel you’re losing bud at an uncontrollable pace and want to cash your chips in, go for it. I’ve just been reading these forums long enough to know that no one on here will ever support harvesting early flower.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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Your fucked. It's too late in the year. Better luck next year, pick differant strains and learn better timing
Either you get them to finish or they are gonna be garbage. Way too early to harvest. Next run prep for the cool/wet by using something like Actinovate.
No offense but if you killed it now there’d be no harvest. Literally no bud there.. just pistils and leafs. Either keep her as dry as possible and wait longer or well throw it out.
I’m sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with the “do not chop” sentiment. I held off on chopping premature bud and basically lost all of it. We’ve been having A LOT of rain for September in the northwest, almost record levels.

If our buddy doesn’t end up with primo bud, that’s unfortunate, but shitty premature bud can still be used to roll fat joints to puff on and such. Whereas totally rotten bud will just become a source of botrytis spores that spread everywhere. If our dude is that worried about it, I’d advise him to hedge — cut some now and leave the rest. Especially cut colas that have already proven susceptible, perhaps, since I’ve noticed botrytis affects the stem and may be pretty systemic.

I live in Oregon and have been chopping to hedge my bets, including some weed that’s pretty immature. I’ve still got a hella of a lot growing outside so maybe it’s a luxury I can afford. Anyway, I basically think if bud rot is spreading like wildfire, you might as well salvage than lose it all.

It basically depends on the conditions he’s seeing, and he’s gotta be the best judge of that.

Again, I don’t have a lot of experience but I’ve seen enough bud rot this year to have it scare the living shit out of me. I’ve got other plants that haven’t got it yet, so I’d rather excise the shitty plant to let them grow than let it become a repository for botrytis in the vain hope I can still get it to mature...

No disrespect intended, just the perspective of a trailer trash dipshit who’s got a lot of bud rot and wants to get rid of it before my other plants get it...
 

beneficialife11

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Why not share pics of the actual issue when the post is about an issue like bud rot? Usually when people post about an issue and attach photos the photos are generally of the issue at hand. I looked at the photos and didnt see any bud rot. Honestly even with higher humidity those flowers wouldn't mold as botrytis forms inside the pockets of large dense buds. Those flowers arent big enough to harbor botrytis Iwas just trying to help you and save you from all the bad advice that your plants are a lost and should be thrown away. Alot of noobs also over analyze things and misdiagnose issues constantly due to lack of experience. I have not seen any bud rot in your photos and my personal opinion is that I have delt with bud rot every year in our commercial gardens and its never a reason to harvest early or take an entire plant down/throw it away. Botrytis is a part of growing outdoors and if every little bit of bud rot would cause growers to have to chop plants then growing outdoors wouldnt be economical. Seed plants are more resistant to mold aswell as certain strains. Mold is an inevitably but is factor in. 5-10% to mold is generally a given. It has never wiped out a garden of mine even with a strong presence in the garden. Neither has it any other grower that I know. Again you are posting on a forum asking other growers their advice, I replied and my advice is to carefully cut out mold into a plastic bag and remove it from the area and to whip down scissors with alcohol between cuts and to patiently wait and harvest when plants are ready. If you want to throw your plants away then be my guest.20180929_121300.jpg
 

beneficialife11

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I’m sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with the “do not chop” sentiment. I held off on chopping premature bud and basically lost all of it. We’ve been having A LOT of rain for September in the northwest, almost record levels.

If our buddy doesn’t end up with primo bud, that’s unfortunate, but shitty premature bud can still be used to roll fat joints to puff on and such. Whereas totally rotten bud will just become a source of botrytis spores that spread everywhere. If our dude is that worried about it, I’d advise him to hedge — cut some now and leave the rest. Especially cut colas that have already proven susceptible, perhaps, since I’ve noticed botrytis affects the stem and may be pretty systemic.

I live in Oregon and have been chopping to hedge my bets, including some weed that’s pretty immature. I’ve still got a hella of a lot growing outside so maybe it’s a luxury I can afford. Anyway, I basically think if bud rot is spreading like wildfire, you might as well salvage than lose it all.

It basically depends on the conditions he’s seeing, and he’s gotta be the best judge of that.

Again, I don’t have a lot of experience but I’ve seen enough bud rot this year to have it scare the living shit out of me. I’ve got other plants that haven’t got it yet, so I’d rather excise the shitty plant to let them grow than let it become a repository for botrytis in the vain hope I can still get it to mature...

No disrespect intended, just the perspective of a trailer trash dipshit who’s got a lot of bud rot and wants to get rid of it before my other plants get it...
Mold is present everywhere. The spores are even in space. Just because the spores spread doesn't mean the mold spreads, the spores need to find themselves into compact nugs and then the right conditions need to exist for the mold to grow. I carefully cut out mold. We have been getting more rain then usual in southern Oregon and I have some present in my garden only on my gelatos though. Everything else is chill. Makes sense because they are the fattest buds. In my light dep sea of green sometimes ill see a little mold in the top most dense buds but i cut it out and it never really takes over more then 5% of the crop. Thats in a contained environment. (Semi contained) anyways Im never going to advise someone to cut down their plant at the sight of a little bud rot. That's my experience not saying that I'm right and anyone else is wrong Im just speaking my personal experience and truth. This has been my experience with bud rot. I worry way more about pests like russet/broad mites or bang and root aphids destroying shit then I do about mold because in my experience without good integrated pest management practices bugs can be DEVASTATING.
 

chronicvanisland

Active Member
I’m sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with the “do not chop” sentiment. I held off on chopping premature bud and basically lost all of it. We’ve been having A LOT of rain for September in the northwest, almost record levels.

If our buddy doesn’t end up with primo bud, that’s unfortunate, but shitty premature bud can still be used to roll fat joints to puff on and such. Whereas totally rotten bud will just become a source of botrytis spores that spread everywhere. If our dude is that worried about it, I’d advise him to hedge — cut some now and leave the rest. Especially cut colas that have already proven susceptible, perhaps, since I’ve noticed botrytis affects the stem and may be pretty systemic.

I live in Oregon and have been chopping to hedge my bets, including some weed that’s pretty immature. I’ve still got a hella of a lot growing outside so maybe it’s a luxury I can afford. Anyway, I basically think if bud rot is spreading like wildfire, you might as well salvage than lose it all.

It basically depends on the conditions he’s seeing, and he’s gotta be the best judge of that.

Again, I don’t have a lot of experience but I’ve seen enough bud rot this year to have it scare the living shit out of me. I’ve got other plants that haven’t got it yet, so I’d rather excise the shitty plant to let them grow than let it become a repository for botrytis in the vain hope I can still get it to mature...

No disrespect intended, just the perspective of a trailer trash dipshit who’s got a lot of bud rot and wants to get rid of it before my other plants get it...
Thanks and gunna wait this one out i think, harvested other yesterday
Listen to the member that said it’ll just be leaves and pistils. It might get you high for all of 2 days before you won’t feel anything at all. Whatever trichomes are there will not have looked like a mushroom yet, so you won’t even have much THC-A let alone THC. I’d much rather gamble on letting it go atleast another 2-3 weeks than to flush 3.5 months down the drain for maybe 14 grams of immature flower.

But these threads most of the time are opened looking for confirmation moreso than an honest opinion. You know your situation better than anyone on here, so if you feel you’re losing bud at an uncontrollable pace and want to cash your chips in, go for it. I’ve just been reading these forums long enough to know that no one on here will ever support harvesting early flower.
Heres some mushroomed chomes from that one
 

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Mrs. Weedstein

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Why not share pics of the actual issue when the post is about an issue like bud rot? Usually when people post about an issue and attach photos the photos are generally of the issue at hand. I looked at the photos and didnt see any bud rot. Honestly even with higher humidity those flowers wouldn't mold as botrytis forms inside the pockets of large dense buds. Those flowers arent big enough to harbor botrytis Iwas just trying to help you and save you from all the bad advice that your plants are a lost and should be thrown away. Alot of noobs also over analyze things and misdiagnose issues constantly due to lack of experience. I have not seen any bud rot in your photos and my personal opinion is that I have delt with bud rot every year in our commercial gardens and its never a reason to harvest early or take an entire plant down/throw it away. Botrytis is a part of growing outdoors and if every little bit of bud rot would cause growers to have to chop plants then growing outdoors wouldnt be economical. Seed plants are more resistant to mold aswell as certain strains. Mold is an inevitably but is factor in. 5-10% to mold is generally a given. It has never wiped out a garden of mine even with a strong presence in the garden. Neither has it any other grower that I know. Again you are posting on a forum asking other growers their advice, I replied and my advice is to carefully cut out mold into a plastic bag and remove it from the area and to whip down scissors with alcohol between cuts and to patiently wait and harvest when plants are ready. If you want to throw your plants away then be my guest.View attachment 4400011
No criticism intended. I assumed he posted photos post-removal, I agree the plants look fine in the pics. You clearly know what you’re talking about, no disrespect intended.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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Mold is present everywhere. The spores are even in space. Just because the spores spread doesn't mean the mold spreads, the spores need to find themselves into compact nugs and then the right conditions need to exist for the mold to grow. I carefully cut out mold. We have been getting more rain then usual in southern Oregon and I have some present in my garden only on my gelatos though. Everything else is chill. Makes sense because they are the fattest buds. In my light dep sea of green sometimes ill see a little mold in the top most dense buds but i cut it out and it never really takes over more then 5% of the crop. Thats in a contained environment. (Semi contained) anyways Im never going to advise someone to cut down their plant at the sight of a little bud rot. That's my experience not saying that I'm right and anyone else is wrong Im just speaking my personal experience and truth. This has been my experience with bud rot. I worry way more about pests like russet/broad mites or bang and root aphids destroying shit then I do about mold because in my experience without good integrated pest management practices bugs can be DEVASTATING.
Dude, those plants look dank and you clearly know your shit. And I think your advice is right on — EXCEPT...

You have a lot more experience than me or our buddy. You obviously grow on a professional level and we probably don’t. I can’t be watching that shit all day. I’ve got a day job that takes me away from home for days. Right now I’m in a motel room 300 miles from home and if I left my shit without chopping the infected colas, ALL my shit would be gone by the time I get home this weekend.

That’s all I’m saying.

Would you disagree with this statement: if you got one plant that’s just fucking infested with bud rot and several others that are not, wouldn’t you want to hedge your bets and get rid of it?
 

chronicvanisland

Active Member
Mold is present everywhere. The spores are even in space. Just because the spores spread doesn't mean the mold spreads, the spores need to find themselves into compact nugs and then the right conditions need to exist for the mold to grow. I carefully cut out mold. We have been getting more rain then usual in southern Oregon and I have some present in my garden only on my gelatos though. Everything else is chill. Makes sense because they are the fattest buds. In my light dep sea of green sometimes ill see a little mold in the top most dense buds but i cut it out and it never really takes over more then 5% of the crop. Thats in a contained environment. (Semi contained) anyways Im never going to advise someone to cut down their plant at the sight of a little bud rot. That's my experience not saying that I'm right and anyone else is wrong Im just speaking my personal experience and truth. This has been my experience with bud rot. I worry way more about pests like russet/broad mites or bang and root aphids destroying shit then I do about mold because in my experience without good integrated pest management practices bugs can be DEVASTATING.
The mold has hit flowers that are small and some that are consistent size and the top flower on some branches. If anyone knows growing outdoor in bc please help;) seems most of medium size flowers are okay so far.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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The mold has hit flowers that are small and some that are consistent size and the top flower on some branches. If anyone knows growing outdoor in bc please help;) seems most of medium size flowers are okay so far.
At this point — considering how much you’ve stirred the pot, :) — you might want to post some photos of your bud rot. I hate doing that too, but it’s obviously an embarrassment for all of us, LOL.
 

chronicvanisland

Active Member
At this point — considering how much you’ve stirred the pot, :) — you might want to post some photos of your bud rot. I hate doing that too, but it’s obviously an embarrassment for all of us, LOL.
Ive stirred the pot? Only embarrasment is your lack of knowledge, if you cant picture bud rot then you are no help
 

saintmetalhead

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General rule of thumb ive been living by , if the majority of the bud is rotted cut the whole cola out wait a few days if weather permits. Let the plant dry. If more budrot shows up near that same spot of elsewhere on the plant, i chop and cut out what i can and use a leaf blower to get ALL the residual moisture off.Hang dry

If its a small amount on a cola or a single bud site, cut the effected area and continue to go until either more shows or the plant is done.

Also if your plant is within a week of being done and you have ANY ROT cut it down period. I would say a 30-45% of people on this forum are dealing with BudRot right now, or worms . its been a horribly wet summer.
 
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