SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)
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natureboygrower
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A couple of bodhi mother's helpers I put into my sips only 16 days ago. Went with two round 5" air stones per sip with a 30-60 gallon air pump. The growth is tremendous. Started a weekly watering of em1 as well, never used the stuff before this past summer which I was applying to my compost pile. Figured I'd try it indoors, though I'm going to skip next week, I notice a slight clawing in one of my plants.
natureboygrower
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Here are the stones I used and a bud pic of my last SIP run. No looking back for me when it comes to growing tek
Speaking of air to the roots. Has anyone here ran a base mix in sips with 50% aeration?
A while back I read somewhere (maybe here?) a guy recommending your media base should be 50/25/25 in sips, for better drainage and more air.
So it would be something like
50% Perlite/pumice/lava rock
25% castings/compost
25% peat/coir.
I've always mixed my base media approx. 33% each. But that's in standard containers or pots and I'm just starting to explore the sips.
Seems like it would make sense since your soil is costantly wet or moist.
I was contemplating trying it and wondered how much difference it would make, or if anyone has tried it.
A while back I read somewhere (maybe here?) a guy recommending your media base should be 50/25/25 in sips, for better drainage and more air.
So it would be something like
50% Perlite/pumice/lava rock
25% castings/compost
25% peat/coir.
I've always mixed my base media approx. 33% each. But that's in standard containers or pots and I'm just starting to explore the sips.
Seems like it would make sense since your soil is costantly wet or moist.
I was contemplating trying it and wondered how much difference it would make, or if anyone has tried it.
Tim Fox
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so with the lack of nutes in the air mix base,, would you be adding nutes to the res then,, if so Captain morgan has done this with great success with his octopots
NewGrower2011
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Was he running salt or organic nutes in the rez? I would be curious if you did attempt to go the semi-soil-less route with a lot of aeration if something like NFTG line could be used. But when you investigate the line they're clear that you mix at time of use/feeding as there are immediate reactions - so this sounds like they wouldn't wouldn't necessarily work well in a rez - more top-fed perhaps. I was top-feeding with NFTG my last run and think I caused a ph swing or something and got some stress seeding from an otherwise known stable clone so I broke the less-is-better rule at some point.
NewGrower2011
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fwiw - In my re-amending/reset for the next run I did add about 6 cups more of perlite to each tote which was around 12 gal or so once it was all fluffed up. Had a good bit of left-over from prior run with that being added.
Tim Fox
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he did not run salts, the were some expensive organic bottled nutes he is active on the forum, send him a message, he has always been kind to me and helpful
I guess I didn't realize that much aeration in the media would then require additional feeding in the water or reservoir. I was going to use some EM1 in the rez, but that's about it. Don't think I want to go that route this round. Trying to kiss.
I like to prop my feet up a little to. Lol
Tim Fox
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thats really the whole idea of the SIP,, simple, to not have to do all the work of hydro,, if i was to do hydro it would not be in a sip,,
Tstat
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So, my 3 SIPs are now several weeks into flowering and they are looking amazing. I am using air stones this time and made a really nice soil mix, bat guano trenches, GroKashi, and lobster compost. I've said in the past that I got mixed results- this time should be nearly perfect.
This is one Bag Of Oranges, it's a huge bush.
Check out the stem:
The next 2 are Space Monkey.
And here are the 2 SIPs that I planted today. They are 4 Critical Kush:
Finally, here is a shot of the flowering room. There are the 3 SIPs, a couple 5 gal almost ready, and 4 or 5 new 5 gal. pots. Strains are Space Monkey, Lemon Louts, Bag Of Oranges, Bag Of Skunks & Oranges, Chem Kesey/X-Mas Bud, and Sunshine Daydream.
This is one Bag Of Oranges, it's a huge bush.
Check out the stem:
The next 2 are Space Monkey.
And here are the 2 SIPs that I planted today. They are 4 Critical Kush:
Finally, here is a shot of the flowering room. There are the 3 SIPs, a couple 5 gal almost ready, and 4 or 5 new 5 gal. pots. Strains are Space Monkey, Lemon Louts, Bag Of Oranges, Bag Of Skunks & Oranges, Chem Kesey/X-Mas Bud, and Sunshine Daydream.
Tim Fox
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dude did you mount quantum boards to music stands?? GENIUS!!!
grow is looking good man, lots of leaves those sips can really support allot of plant!!!,,
I am going to super crop my clones on friday, and lay the main tops over before i lay the scrog screen down
Tstat
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Thanks for noticing! I’ve talked about it on other threads. It’s the best thing I did after switching to LEDs. I have 4 and I can move them around wherever I need them. They provide side light, overhead light, even lower canopy light. The idea just came to me in a weird way one night. Totally adjustable and invaluable in my room situation.
1shaggyDude
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I wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. Because of all the great info here I have completed my first indoor sip run. Ended up with around 280 grams dry.
Humanrob
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Nice run! If you don't mind sharing, strains? kind of lights? length of veg time? Looks like they were from clones, but still curious, clones or seeds as your start?
1shaggyDude
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Thank you, and yes, they were clones. The one on the right is Buddha Tahoe og, and the other was blue zkittles. They got 3 weeks veg. I use a sunsystem 315w lec in a 3x3.
The Tahoe came out amazing but took 10 weeks to finish. The blue zkittles was just ok, but still better than most of the stuff at the clubs.
Tim Fox
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Hey what kinda sips are you using, killer grow buddy
Humanrob
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Very nice! I've probably done a half dozen grows in my 3x3, everything from one GG4 in a sip to 9 seedlings in 2 gallon pots. I'm always interested in how people utilize that space, and what seems to work for them. At this point I'm only doing one indoor and one outdoor run per year, so I need to make them both count.
1shaggyDude
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Thank you. I used earthboxes. Your posts using yours were super helpful. Pretty much copied your setup, only difference was I used big rootz instead of ff and a different brand tomato fert in my trenches.