Tstat
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Bought them at Lowe’s. City Picker I think it’s called.
SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)
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Tim Fox
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Yup I even took a look at them myself they are pretty cool
NewGrower2011
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Interesting progress update on my latest run. Started with 6 plants that had been sitting in 1 gals from clones for way too long. But thought they'd have good well establish root balls (bordering root bound) and do well when dropped in the SIP(s). Then I had some clones straight from the clone machine for the same strain and its 'sister' genetics. Those too had sat in cloner for a bit too long and were plump stems and had their roots even trimmed once or twice.
My bet was the established ones would grab ahold and rock compares to the newer clones going straight from clone machine to soil.
So first 2 days I thought fore sure clones were gonna die; Wilty and definitely stressed by the transition. The ones that had been in 1gal soil pots didn't show any signs of issue.
Fast forward two weeks and I sort of wish I had thrown out the ones that were from the 1gal pots. They're pathetic compared to the ones that went straight from cloner to SIP/soil. No comparison at all. Giant fat stems on the onces from the cloner and the pre-established ones just don't have that vigor.
Totally surprised me; Opposite of what I expected.
Now I've finally put my 'shower caps' on and did a top dressing of 2cup of fresh ground malted barley then watered in with activated EM and have a nice white fuzz layer going. I just draped multiple heavy black trash bags over/between the plants and let them drape over the edges and overlap one another.
My bet was the established ones would grab ahold and rock compares to the newer clones going straight from clone machine to soil.
So first 2 days I thought fore sure clones were gonna die; Wilty and definitely stressed by the transition. The ones that had been in 1gal soil pots didn't show any signs of issue.
Fast forward two weeks and I sort of wish I had thrown out the ones that were from the 1gal pots. They're pathetic compared to the ones that went straight from cloner to SIP/soil. No comparison at all. Giant fat stems on the onces from the cloner and the pre-established ones just don't have that vigor.
Totally surprised me; Opposite of what I expected.
Now I've finally put my 'shower caps' on and did a top dressing of 2cup of fresh ground malted barley then watered in with activated EM and have a nice white fuzz layer going. I just draped multiple heavy black trash bags over/between the plants and let them drape over the edges and overlap one another.
raggyb
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Put some weed in the stuffing, Brah!
raggyb
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this is buggin me too. i would rather put the regs right into the sip but that fucked me up because i was wasting sips on males.
NewGrower2011
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I knew I had known genetics so went straight to SIPs so no male risks for me. But I think I did get stress seeds last time. Runs before that were zero seeds so I'm attributing it to stress. Only Q I still have is are those seeds worth a shit? No hermie traits I think but rather induced by the stress.
Tim Fox
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fantastic, looks really healthy,, gotta love the earthbox sips
Tim Fox
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here is my dogwalker and cookies & cream in my Growbox sip, 1 week flower
dubekoms
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Not exactly a sip but I've playing around with an idea the past week.
I was thinking of placing a capillary mat on my flood table,angle the table slightly and place a drainage hole in the downward side with a tube going back into a reservoir. In the reservoir I'll run a pump with a tube going to the angled up section of the table and add a simple pvc manifold with regularly spaced holes to water the capillary mat evenly. Water will go from the manifold straight onto the capillary mat and gravity will bring it down the angled table and through the drainage hole and back into the res. I will put the pump on a timer to run a few times during lights on, I don't think over watering will be an issue.
Having a 4x4 exposed wet mat will put too much humidity in the air for me and probably get algae so I was thinking I could tape a large piece of panda film on top of the whole table and cut holes for the pots.
Fabric pots will be placed onto the capillary mat through the holes cut in the panda film. 1 inch of perlite will be placed in the bottom of the pot to act as a barrier so the soil doesn't get waterlogged from directly touching the mat and mulch will be placed on top of the pots to lessen evaporation. I was thinking this method might be good with running lots of clones in smaller pots. I will probably experiment with adding nutrients to the water. If I use nutes I'll run them at low strength and leach the pots every few weeks.
Idk I've been smoking a lot the past week so this might just be another one those dumb stoned ideas but I'm excited to try it out.
I was thinking of placing a capillary mat on my flood table,angle the table slightly and place a drainage hole in the downward side with a tube going back into a reservoir. In the reservoir I'll run a pump with a tube going to the angled up section of the table and add a simple pvc manifold with regularly spaced holes to water the capillary mat evenly. Water will go from the manifold straight onto the capillary mat and gravity will bring it down the angled table and through the drainage hole and back into the res. I will put the pump on a timer to run a few times during lights on, I don't think over watering will be an issue.
Having a 4x4 exposed wet mat will put too much humidity in the air for me and probably get algae so I was thinking I could tape a large piece of panda film on top of the whole table and cut holes for the pots.
Fabric pots will be placed onto the capillary mat through the holes cut in the panda film. 1 inch of perlite will be placed in the bottom of the pot to act as a barrier so the soil doesn't get waterlogged from directly touching the mat and mulch will be placed on top of the pots to lessen evaporation. I was thinking this method might be good with running lots of clones in smaller pots. I will probably experiment with adding nutrients to the water. If I use nutes I'll run them at low strength and leach the pots every few weeks.
Idk I've been smoking a lot the past week so this might just be another one those dumb stoned ideas but I'm excited to try it out.
Tim Fox
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not a sip,,, more along the lines of flood drain in your description, I am a pretty big fan of flood drain myself,
dubekoms
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Yeah more like flood and drain. I think I'm gonna scrap the mat idea and just do flood and drain. Probably add 2 in of perlite on bottom of the pots and flood the table with 1 inch of water. Much simpler
Tim Fox
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flood drain works amazing, yup just put your res pump on a timer and flood the table a few times per day, let it drain back off, and the roots get air in between,, rock and roll
NewGrower2011
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Before going with my SIP(s) I was just going to setup living soil smart pots in my old flood & drain setups to basically just be my watering automation. It would definitely help with drawing air into the root ball/pot as things drain so I'd expect it to work very well. I was hung up on if it was top-drip/drain to rez and recirculate or the usual flood & drain type of setup.
As I studied up a bit more on SIP(s) I loved the fact no pumps required, no air pump vibration/noise to deal with and decided to give it a whirl. If I wanted to push things harder I'd look for the active setup as the related benefits it provides are likely notable (routinely drawing in fresh air to roots has to be a good thing - right?). So for passive it's SIP(s) and for active I'd be all about a big smart pot sitting in flood & drain rig.
I actually have more Rubbermaid totes sitting for that very purpose - to upgrade my flood & drain setup; Nest the totes just like I've done with the SIP rigs I showed earlier in thread but instead of the big holes for the wick & the aeration screen holes it'd be the 2 simple holes for the fittings.
As I studied up a bit more on SIP(s) I loved the fact no pumps required, no air pump vibration/noise to deal with and decided to give it a whirl. If I wanted to push things harder I'd look for the active setup as the related benefits it provides are likely notable (routinely drawing in fresh air to roots has to be a good thing - right?). So for passive it's SIP(s) and for active I'd be all about a big smart pot sitting in flood & drain rig.
I actually have more Rubbermaid totes sitting for that very purpose - to upgrade my flood & drain setup; Nest the totes just like I've done with the SIP rigs I showed earlier in thread but instead of the big holes for the wick & the aeration screen holes it'd be the 2 simple holes for the fittings.
Looking real nice. I bet they'll be stretching soon, and be all over that scrog. lol
I'm really anxious to get mine going. My soil is cooking and seedlings started, so shouldn't be to far out. Like you, I'm figuring on two girls in each earthbox, and I have two boxes. Planned on making some sip buckets to try out at the same time. As long as I can find some time.
Can't wait to get started.
Tim Fox
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Yup I was going to run an air pump, I got it all set up and then I didn't like the hum, so I was back to passive quiet sip
Rocket Soul
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Has anybody here on the thread ever try to run a PPK, passive plant killer a la delta9??
Rocket Soul
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Its basicly a mix between a dutch bucket and a sip: the wick serves both as a safety aspect if top feeding pumps fail and the wick being in contact with the water in the res below helps with removing excess water from the medium by lowering the perched watertable.