ganga gurl420
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How is not wanting to smoke poison being a hippy?
Strongest fungicide?
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Gond00s
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Well hippies will outlive them so who knows
ganga gurl420
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DCcan
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Yea, thats the other good one .Bacillus amyloliquefaciens strain D747*
That can be used in conjunction with with Serenade or Regalia, can't remember which study I saw...big drops in fruit blight and storage issues later when used together. It became endemic in the soil in some fields, and added treatments had huge effect on crop storage.
Gond00s
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also what strains you running for next year wondering
420_Graze_It
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Show me all of the medicinal studies that it remains in plant tissue for "years". Yes it is systemic, but if you have any education on horticulture or chemical half-lives, you will know that myclo has a half life of 66 days. Using the *proper* amount at the beginning of growing, you will effectively have untraceable amounts left by the end of a 12-week grow cycle (4V, 8F). If you SOG then of course it is not a clever option. If you can't grow without getting PM in 8 short weeks for a SOG, give up now.
you'd need to be consuming it by the spoonful for days at a time to have any issues.
LD50 Rat (male) oral 1600 mg/kg
[Tomlin, C.D.S. (ed.). The Pesticide Manual - World Compendium. 10th ed. Surrey, UK: The British Crop Protection Council, 1994., p. 713] **PEER REVIEWED**
LD50 Rat (female) oral 2290 mg/kg
[Tomlin, C.D.S. (ed.). The Pesticide Manual - World Compendium. 10th ed. Surrey, UK: The British Crop Protection Council, 1994., p. 713] **PEER REVIEWED**
LC50; Species: Colinus virginianus (Northern bobwhite, age 7 days) dietary >5000 ppm for 8 days
[USEPA, Office of Pesticide Programs; Pesticide Ecotoxicity Database (2000) on alpha-Butyl-alpha-(4-chlorophenyl)-1H-1,2,4-triazole-1-propanenitrile (88671-89-0). Available from, as of May 21, 2007: http://cfpub.epa.gov/ecotox/quick_query.htm **PEER REVIEWED**
LC50; Species: Anas platyrhynchos (Mallard duck, age 14 days) dietary >5000 ppm for 8 days
[USEPA, Office of Pesticide Programs; Pesticide Ecotoxicity Database (2000) on alpha-Butyl-alpha-(4-chlorophenyl)-1H-1,2,4-triazole-1-propanenitrile (88671-89-0). Available from, as of May 21, 2007: http://cfpub.epa.gov/ecotox/quick_query.htm **PEER REVIEWED**
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Renfro
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Wrong. Definitely wrong. People have had flower tested after being treated in veg with myclobutanil and it was at 0 ppm.
Example: https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/180-day-lab-test-of-avid-forbid-floramite-eagle-20.50151/
Admittedly they vegged a long time in this case but there have been clean results with less veg.
Kassiopeija
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Very interesting, never heard of that before. But is this bacteria also competing against Mykorrhiza that's right in the soil? Or other beneficial bacteria in living soil?Kicks Ass, Natural, use up to the day you kill her. So much Bad Info on this thread...
Fungicide - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
"GENERAL INFORMATlON
Garden Friendly Fungicide is a broad-spectrum preventative biofun-gicide/bactericide for control or suppression of fungal and bacterial plant diseases. The active ingredient of Garden Friendly Fungicide is a naturally occurring strain (D747) of the beneficial bacterium Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. Garden Friendly Fungicide also colo-nizes plant root hairs, preventing establishment of disease-causing fungi and bacteria "
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Kassiopeija
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hello, how do you define the term "half life"?
this is a term I encounter alot when talking about radioactive elements and there are also some substances (for example tranquilizers) which cannot be metabolised by the human liver etc.. so some of these substances take on forever to get out of your system... because after a set period of time - half of it still will remain...
nurrgle
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The half life discussed here is the same as those you mentioned. It explains how long it takes for half of the substance to be out of the plant tissue.
Roger A. Shrubber
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AFTER you harvest, you can wash buds in a bath of water with hydrogen peroxide, and it will clean them up. you have to hang them right away and have a fan blowing till they start to dry a little, then go to a normal drying/curing cycle.
it would be a lot better to figure out why you got the problem to begin with, and fix the situation, than to try to clean up after it happens....
never, ever, ever, spray buds with any kind of pesticide or antifungal....you have no idea what those products do when burned, but i can guarantee you none of it is good....
it would be a lot better to figure out why you got the problem to begin with, and fix the situation, than to try to clean up after it happens....
never, ever, ever, spray buds with any kind of pesticide or antifungal....you have no idea what those products do when burned, but i can guarantee you none of it is good....
ganga gurl420
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You are quoting the wrong person. I never said anything about it being there for yrs. I simply said that not wanting to smoke poisons doesnt make someone a hippy.
And personally I do not care if you have to ingest a lot over a long period of time to be harmful, BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO SMOKE EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF IT.. there are other alternatives then poisons which has been already stated.
For the record I do not have a problem with bacterial fungicides that are organic .... I have a problem with putting chemicals on a plant that you will be eating or smoking.
Thegermling
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Eagle 20 isn’t even approved for cannabis lol. Procidic2 is and it’s systemic and it works. I feel sorry for people who smoke their eagle 20 sprayed garden or people the share it with. Feel even more sorry for growers who use it. They shouldn’t be growing at all.
Gond00s
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Exactly I’m super protective what I’m putting into my body
Roger A. Shrubber
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half life is a useful term, if used in the proper context...spinosad is a pretty safe pesticide, as things go, and it has a short half life, which means in a couple of days there is a negligible amount on the plant, so if you never use it in flower, by the time a plant is finished, any traces should be gone, or so infinitesimal as to not matter....
420_Graze_It
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You don't need to be using Eagle 20 to ingest those chemicals. The main concern with the cannabis community is burning E20 creates hydrogen cyanide.
Guess what? burning ANY plant material, even WITHOUT E20 on it, produces cyanohydrins. When you mix water (saliva in your mouth, throat, etc) with cyanohydrins, it will also produce.... you guessed it! Hydrogen Cyanide.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21694708
All the people bashing E20 don't even understand this. If you burn/decarb plant matter you will still get hydrogen cyanide. Either way its in such tiny amounts you won't see much of an issue. It's the difference between eating off of a plate with traces of dish detergent on it, and eating the entire damn tide pod.
This is the problem with the internet, people hear or read something and it becomes a giant game of telephone where people regurgitate things they know nothing about. When you have a scientific background like myself, I will take your posts more seriously.
Thegermling
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Remember that roundup guy who said it was so safe you could drink it? If eagle 20 is so safe let’s see you ingest some? Be my guest and prove it to us all and then will I believe it.
420_Graze_It
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It's the difference between micro amounts and having a spoonful. Same as when you drive your car you can smell other car's exhaust out the window. That also contains cyanide. You don't go near the tailpipe and start breathing there..... but maybe some people should
Manure is safe for plants, you wanna eat some?
Thegermling
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Either way man if you get tested with it in your flower and you’re legal it’s over. All that flower gets trashed.It's the difference between micro amounts and having a spoonful. Same as when you drive your car you can smell other car's exhaust out the window. That also contains cyanide. You don't go near the tailpipe and start breathing there..... but maybe some people should
Manure is safe for plants, you wanna eat some?
hanimmal
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Indoor or Outdoor?
If outside, find mold resistance strains that finish on time for your region. Anything else isn't worth it in the long run.