The big switch, HPS to LED

[onegreenthumb]

XD
shouldnt you be welding something?

Are you so starved for approval that you go to a website and make ridicules claims to strangers in hope of what???? They think your cool, because no one in your real life buys into your bullshit....you are so transparent ...tell the women in your life to not be so mean to you, geez

 

[kmog33]

Are you so starved for approval that you go to a website and make ridicules claims to strangers in hope of what???? They think your cool, because no one in your real life buys into your bullshit....you are so transparent ...tell the women in your life to not be so mean to you, geez

Lol what women? I think you nailed the issue right on the head....too much surprise buttsecks.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Right now my room is 10x10 and i keep running about 30 days short. I was thinking about a 30x30 but that also will include work space and small veg closet. I get 1lb per grow light and have 3. Yes i know i could get more but its a gorilla grow and smell and heat is an issue. I have money saved up and bought an prebuilt shed that you see people selling everywhere. I read about leds not putting out all the heat as hps and half the electric consumption. Just looking for efficiency and more product. Hps has been very good to me but just ready for the next step for my family's future.

First, it's "guerilla".



Now, to be of help, you really have to be pulling better than one per light before you start thinking about expanding. You need to figure out why you aren't pulling better numbers with your current setup. You might want to consider hydro, but I know that some of the soil guys here on RIU crush it, so if that is what you're comfortable with, than stay with it. You might want to look into the "super soil" threads(is it super soil? build a soil? soil guys, help me out here) if you're just running store bought soil.

My suggestions for upgrading your current setup -----> Consider purchasing 4 315s. Sell 2 of your 1Ks. Put the 315s in the corners, with the remaining 1K in the middle. You'l probably pul the same numbers, while using less heat and elec. Get remote ballast 315s. Or, replace your 3 1Ks with 3 750 DEs. Or go LED, but the initial light purchase will be substantially more than my first 2 suggestions.

Last, LEDs don't use half the power consumption. With current tech, you need about 75% of the watts you would need for an DID setup, meaning it takes 650 to 800 watts of LED to replace a 1K. They still generate heat, but you can run less watts, which equates to less heat.



Oh, and stop referring to yourself as a commercial grower. That term tends to apply to licensed growers. You're just a grower, dude.

 

[kmog33]

First, it's "guerilla".



Now, to be of help, you really have to be pulling better than one per light before you start thinking about expanding. You need to figure out why you aren't pulling better numbers with your current setup. You might want to consider hydro, but I know that some of the soil guys here on RIU crush it, so if that is what you're comfortable with, than stay with it. You might want to look into the "super soil" threads(is it super soil? build a soil? soil guys, help me out here) if you're just running store bought soil.

My suggestions for upgrading your current setup -----> Consider purchasing 4 315s. Sell 2 of your 1Ks. Put the 315s in the corners, with the remaining 1K in the middle. You'l probably pul the same numbers, while using less heat and elec. Get remote ballast 315s. Or, replace your 3 1Ks with 3 750 DEs. Or go LED, but the initial light purchase will be substantially more than my first 2 suggestions.

Last, LEDs don't use half the power consumption. With current tech, you need about 75% of the watts you would need for an DID setup, meaning it takes 650 to 800 watts of LED to replace a 1K. They still generate heat, but you can run less watts, which equates to less heat.



Oh, and stop referring to yourself as a commercial grower. That term tends to apply to licensed growers. You're just a grower, dude.

I still am looking for an led room that gets more useable light watt for watt than 1k de hps / 1k de cmh rooms. Initial cost aside, I fee like someone would be doing it if it actually gave a anywhere near a 20% yield increase in a 50-100k watt room. That would pay for itself quick I feel like. Not saying it’s not possible, just I have yet to see anything of scale go this route.

 

[Hashman0042]

First, it's "guerilla".



Now, to be of help, you really have to be pulling better than one per light before you start thinking about expanding. You need to figure out why you aren't pulling better numbers with your current setup. You might want to consider hydro, but I know that some of the soil guys here on RIU crush it, so if that is what you're comfortable with, than stay with it. You might want to look into the "super soil" threads(is it super soil? build a soil? soil guys, help me out here) if you're just running store bought soil.

My suggestions for upgrading your current setup -----> Consider purchasing 4 315s. Sell 2 of your 1Ks. Put the 315s in the corners, with the remaining 1K in the middle. You'l probably pul the same numbers, while using less heat and elec. Get remote ballast 315s. Or, replace your 3 1Ks with 3 750 DEs. Or go LED, but the initial light purchase will be substantially more than my first 2 suggestions.

Last, LEDs don't use half the power consumption. With current tech, you need about 75% of the watts you would need for an DID setup, meaning it takes 650 to 800 watts of LED to replace a 1K. They still generate heat, but you can run less watts, which equates to less heat.



Oh, and stop referring to yourself as a commercial grower. That term tends to apply to licensed growers. You're just a grower, dude.

Fair enough. Do you have have any links that would direct me to the seller. Seems like evertime i look up a seller sll there product reviews seem fishy to me. Yes i was looking into super soils too. To be honest i think the soil i got from the local compost guy isnt what he said it was. Very sandy and i am getting massive run off. I bet half of my water drains out. I did just start using bat guano from fox farm and was over a lb dried. Not much but i noticed. I still have 30 days till harvest and find a good soil and lights. Definitely going to look into new lights. Now as far as hos bulbs go is there one you would recommend.

 

[Terpinator]

I switched from HID lighting to strictly LED. I purchased 2 4x4 and 1 3x3(DIY) from Rapid LED ,chilled logic . In my flower tents I also run exotic supplemental boards. I see a very slight difference in that HID's produce a bit more. MAYBE an extra 2 oz per grow. But the trich production is far greater under LED setup. Hope that helps.

 

[hybridway2]

Professional is a word under qualified people use to boost their egos.

Or people with specific training.

 

[Hashman0042]

I switched from HID lighting to strictly LED. I purchased 2 4x4 and 1 3x3(DIY) from Rapid LED ,chilled logic . In my flower tents I also run exotic supplemental boards. I see a very slight difference in that HID's produce a bit more. MAYBE an extra 2 oz per grow. But the trich production is far greater under LED setup. Hope that helps.

Someone told me to add a MH along with my hps in flower. Increases the tricomb production

 

[kmog33]

Or people with specific training.

I was speaking of self proclaimed professionals. Thank you for correcting me.

 

[hybridway2]

Fair enough. Do you have have any links that would direct me to the seller. Seems like evertime i look up a seller sll there product reviews seem fishy to me. Yes i was looking into super soils too. To be honest i think the soil i got from the local compost guy isnt what he said it was. Very sandy and i am getting massive run off. I bet half of my water drains out. I did just start using bat guano from fox farm and was over a lb dried. Not much but i noticed. I still have 30 days till harvest and find a good soil and lights. Definitely going to look into new lights. Now as far as hos bulbs go is there one you would recommend.

Here's your light. Most versatile on the mkt. W/ discount pricing for Commercial Growers such as yourself.
New website underway.

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8) | amare-technology

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8)$1,695.00SolarBar SB800 (Bar8). The most stunningly powerful and flexible SolarSPEC™ horticulture lighting solution to date. The Bar8 is designed specifically for single and multi-tier commercial cannabis cultivation with a recommended mounting height over canopy of...

www.amaretechnology.com

They come in - Canna-Spec (full cycle)
- Solar-Spec - C (commercial) for flower mostly but vegges well.
- Solar-Spec - HE (High Efficiency)
25% discount was recently offered here before Amare pulled out of Sponsorship here. Prolly still doable though.
Get serious, but proper media & nutrients.
Learn your environmental balance, Co2, air movement, de-fo, pros n cons of everything considered, then weighed out to your needs & budget.
Get writing notes. Goodluck!

 

[Hashman0042]

Here's your light. Most versatile on the mkt. W/ discount pricing for Commercial Growers such as yourself.
New website underway.

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8) | amare-technology

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8)$1,695.00SolarBar SB800 (Bar8). The most stunningly powerful and flexible SolarSPEC™ horticulture lighting solution to date. The Bar8 is designed specifically for single and multi-tier commercial cannabis cultivation with a recommended mounting height over canopy of...

www.amaretechnology.com

They come in - Canna-Spec (full cycle)
- Solar-Spec - C (commercial) for flower mostly but vegges well.
- Solar-Spec - HE (High Efficiency)
25% discount was recently offered here before Amare pulled out of Sponsorship here. Prolly still doable though.
Get serious, but proper media & nutrients.
Learn your environmental balance, Co2, air movement, de-fo, pros n cons of everything considered, then weighed out to your needs & budget.
Get writing notes. Goodluck!

Bro there is noooo way i will spend 1600$ on a light. Thats crazy. If thats how expensive they are i will just stay with hps

 

[kmog33]

Here's your light. Most versatile on the mkt. W/ discount pricing for Commercial Growers such as yourself.
New website underway.

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8) | amare-technology

SolarBar SB800 (Bar8)$1,695.00SolarBar SB800 (Bar8). The most stunningly powerful and flexible SolarSPEC™ horticulture lighting solution to date. The Bar8 is designed specifically for single and multi-tier commercial cannabis cultivation with a recommended mounting height over canopy of...

www.amaretechnology.com

They come in - Canna-Spec (full cycle)
- Solar-Spec - C (commercial) for flower mostly but vegges well.
- Solar-Spec - HE (High Efficiency)
25% discount was recently offered here before Amare pulled out of Sponsorship here. Prolly still doable though.
Get serious, but proper media & nutrients.
Learn your environmental balance, Co2, air movement, de-fo, pros n cons of everything considered, then weighed out to your needs & budget.
Get writing notes. Goodluck!

Man amare... I feel like I remember a comparison with an amare panel and the at600....wonder how that light fares against new panels.

 

[hybridway2]

Right now my room is 10x10 and i keep running about 30 days short. I was thinking about a 30x30 but that also will include work space and small veg closet. I get 1lb per grow light and have 3. Yes i know i could get more but its a gorilla grow and smell and heat is an issue. I have money saved up and bought an prebuilt shed that you see people selling everywhere. I read about leds not putting out all the heat as hps and half the electric consumption. Just looking for efficiency and more product. Hps has been very good to me but just ready for the next step for my family's future.

Gorilla Growing is outdoors man.

 

[hybridway2]

Was turned on to the hgl 550 but not sure i want to spend 1k on a light i know nothing about

Yeah, that's popular. Idk why but it is a big seller.

 

[hybridway2]

Man amare... I feel like I remember a comparison with an amare panel and the at600....wonder how that light fares against new panels.

What, the AT600?

 

[hybridway2]

Bro there is noooo way i will spend 1600$ on a light. Thats crazy. If thats how expensive they are i will just stay with hps

A 4x4 covering, good led is a $G+. That specific light has many bells n whistles others dont n may be more light then a Hobby grower needs. Being UL8800, it is a true Commercial fixture & what i use. It covers 5x6' in flower or a 4x4 with side-lighting. Totally detachable, sliding bars & pivoting. Gasgeted Glass covering the leds.
Nelson from "Poetry of Plants" on IG is consistent with 2.7 oz/sq'. Or 2.7# / 4'x4'. Under the Bar-8's.
Maybe you should look into DIY or China Knock-Offs if your not making enough chedda to purchase Professional lighting?
You should be getting 1.5+ off your Thouie SE before upgrading though IMO, unless you got pure 30% Fire there.
I got 1#/600w hps/x1 plant per light. Average. 2 mo veg. 25% of that time is the cloning process.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

I still am looking for an led room that gets more useable light watt for watt than 1k de hps / 1k de cmh rooms. Initial cost aside, I fee like someone would be doing it if it actually gave a anywhere near a 20% yield increase in a 50-100k watt room. That would pay for itself quick I feel like. Not saying it’s not possible, just I have yet to see anything of scale go this route.

Two of my flowering rooms have 8 foot ceilings. My house is built into a hill, on the edge of a canyon. I run a 750 DE in my taller flowering room, with 315s in the corners, like the setup i described above, but mine is 6ish by 10. I was running 2 600s in my 8x4 with the low ceilings, but a couple years ago, I switched them out with 900 watts of cobs. Same yields, less heat, less worry about venting hoods. The lights have more than paid for themselves in that time.

But yeah, if I were to do a big commercial spot with big ceilings, DE all the way. With a little CMH sprinkled in.

 

[rkymtnman]

Someone told me to add a MH along with my hps in flower. Increases the tricomb production

chuck a UV T5 in there instead.

 

[Hashman0042]

Gorilla Growing is outdoors man.

Ok your its more a stealth grow. I have super close neighbors and on is freaking super nosey

 

[Hashman0042]

First, it's "guerilla".



Now, to be of help, you really have to be pulling better than one per light before you start thinking about expanding. You need to figure out why you aren't pulling better numbers with your current setup. You might want to consider hydro, but I know that some of the soil guys here on RIU crush it, so if that is what you're comfortable with, than stay with it. You might want to look into the "super soil" threads(is it super soil? build a soil? soil guys, help me out here) if you're just running store bought soil.

My suggestions for upgrading your current setup -----> Consider purchasing 4 315s. Sell 2 of your 1Ks. Put the 315s in the corners, with the remaining 1K in the middle. You'l probably pul the same numbers, while using less heat and elec. Get remote ballast 315s. Or, replace your 3 1Ks with 3 750 DEs. Or go LED, but the initial light purchase will be substantially more than my first 2 suggestions.

Last, LEDs don't use half the power consumption. With current tech, you need about 75% of the watts you would need for an DID setup, meaning it takes 650 to 800 watts of LED to replace a 1K. They still generate heat, but you can run less watts, which equates to less heat.



Oh, and stop referring to yourself as a commercial grower. That term tends to apply to licensed growers. You're just a grower, dude.