Growing organic in coco?

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GreenPeace22

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Hello everyone on RIU! Short and to the point question : can you grow organic in coco? If yes, how, and what would you need to do to achieve this? I've heard some people talking about mixing their coco with dry organic amendments and only pH watering after, but as far as I know, coco is inert, without any microbial life in it to process the organic matter for the plant, so how is this achievable?
 
ebcrew

ebcrew

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Check out mr. Canucks grow on YouTube
He does the dry amendment with Coco and has great results. He should have all your answers
 
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GreenPeace22

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ebcrew said:
Check out mr. Canucks grow on YouTube
He does the dry amendment with Coco and has great results. He should have all your answers
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Yes, I know about him, in fact, he is one of the reasons I came here to ask this. For me, something seems off. Coco is inert, how is it possible for plants to assimilate all that organic dry powders he's using, without bacteria's help? Unless that dry amendments also have some sort of microbial life in it, which i doubt it. Also, if it works so well, how comes not so many people is using his method? You just mix coco with that powder and all yo have to do after is pH water, and one or two top feeds for a full run. Something's off, don't you think?

Still searching for an answer...
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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You add your living bio's man!

AACT tea is an excellent source of a broad spectrum of bio's....
Adding dry bio's will work but, I would be more inclined to use a simple AACT bio tea...

Once in the media, they have plenty of surface's to adhere to, and thrive. The dry, natural feeds will break down and do what nature intended.

Not to mention the use of organic liquid nutrient lines...

Still, for the advantage's in resulting taste's and smell's - I would go soil!
 
xtsho

xtsho

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As @Dr. Who mentioned, use an organic liquid nutrient just as you would a synthetic nutrient. There are several available. Earth Juice or General Organics BioThrive are two options. I think you would be better off treating coco like most people do instead of amending with dry organic amendments. I've used Earth Juice in the past for other plants and they did very well. Cannabis is just a plant. Now you have me thinking that I might do a grow using something like Earth Juice myself with a side by side using dry chemical salts.

Good luck with whatever direction you go. :blsmoke:
 
ebcrew

ebcrew

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Dr. Who said:
You add your living bio's man!

AACT tea is an excellent source of a broad spectrum of bio's....
Adding dry bio's will work but, I would be more inclined to use a simple AACT bio tea...

Once in the media, they have plenty of surface's to adhere to, and thrive. The dry, natural feeds will break down and do what nature intended.

Not to mention the use of organic liquid nutrient lines...

Still, for the advantage's in resulting taste's and smell's - I would go soil!
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Agreed. Mr Canuck used a tea in his videos as well as dry amendment
 
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GreenPeace22

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ebcrew said:
Agreed. Mr Canuck used a tea in his videos as well as dry amendment
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He has videos explaining exactly how he is mixing his medium. Plain coco with dry organic amendments and some perlite, that's all there is. Nothing else, no microbial life to digest the organic amendments so the plant can use it. Isn't this how organic growing works? You need LIVING SOIL, which means it has to have MICROBIAL LIFE, otherwise it's just hydroponics, and using organic nutrients is pointless. PLEASE, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is common sense if you ask me. I just can't understand how his plants can eat the NPK from his dry amendments without the help of microbes...
 
T macc

T macc

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You introduce bacteria as Dr. Who said. I grow in amended coco. I just made a new batch that's 25% coco, 25% ewc, 25% compost, 25% aeration. Amended with Kelp4less' super soil, BAS' coco minerals, and a bunch of other stuff. I'll be starting some 7 gallons soon to really try it. Currently have a bunch of 1 gallons flowering with 50/50 old/new batch.

If you want to just do amended coco and perlite, I would get onto AACTs, Kelp4less has Liquid Gold, and BAS has a list of KNF
 
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DoobieDoobs

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Mr. Canuck does add earthworm castings into the mix, and he uses as well a living soil by gaia green.
I'm not sure, but I think as long as you introduce bacteria and fungi via earthworm castings, compost, or a living soil you can grow weed.
 
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DoobieDoobs

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I guess it depends on how you want your medium to be right? I haven't grown in coco but people say coco doesn't retain much water and you will have to water more days than if you use peat moss.
 
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