Bernie Sanders 2020

DwayneWayne

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He might win again. Trump's win in 2020 would mean defeating the will of the majority again. Your kind want to rule not govern. Republikkkans have turned their backs on the rule of law and majority rule. Why not just go all out, tear up the constitution and make this a monarchy?
Speaking of the constitution, where can I find the majority rules article?
 

Fogdog

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Two different sets of people making the same observation of the facts does not make their motivations the same. Your little polemic game is based on some deeply flawed logic.

Typical Trumpian bullshit. We deserve better.
We can show him the facts, show the body of knowledge behind the fact, show why that fact is important to decisions, show the effect that fact has on people in real time.

He cites twitter feeds and memes. Just like idiots such as @kgp and @Bugeye do. Not to mention the anger, fear and vitriol they all exude.

Trumpian has become a word to describe people who are manipulated by propaganda and have no ability to learn.
 

Fogdog

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It's just some bullshit label they use to smear other people. They must have been taking notes from Trump.

Sad.
That's the point. Still though, he avoids answering that question and I enjoy sticking him with it. I'll ask him whenever his rants decay to the point where he uses it again. In their lexicon, it must mean "not one of the true believers".
 

kgp

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We can show him the facts, show the body of knowledge behind the fact, show why that fact is important to decisions, show the effect that fact has on people in real time.

He cites twitter feeds and memes. Just like idiots such as @kgp and @Bugeye do. Not to mention the anger, fear and vitriol they all exude. BTW, I have never once posted a meme and have no twitter account for the record.

Trumpian has become a word to describe people who are manipulated by propaganda and have no ability to learn.
Anger, fear, and vitriol? This whole left wing is full of that.. Just like any post i make that leans right is shut down by @rollitup but talking about shooting white conservative males and it's all fair? When you get to make the rules, you don't have to play fair, right?

reference:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/win-for-the-usa-immigration-policy.1004975/ my post that got closed

https://www.rollitup.org/t/it-is-legal-to-shoot-kill-trump-supporters-terrorists.1004458/ But this didnt? Fucking hilarious.


Speaking of propaganda, looks like the old DNC has their new target. I have seen many posts from left wing news sources putting uncle Joe in the cross hairs. Watch! They are going to take him down hard. Too much baggage. Bye Bye uncle Joe.
 

Fogdog

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Anger, fear, and vitriol? This whole left wing is full of that.. Just like any post i make that leans right is shut down by @rollitup but talking about shooting white conservative males and it's all fair? When you get to make the rules, you don't have to play fair, right?

reference:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/win-for-the-usa-immigration-policy.1004975/ my post that got closed

https://www.rollitup.org/t/it-is-legal-to-shoot-kill-trump-supporters-terrorists.1004458/ But this didnt? Fucking hilarious.


Speaking of propaganda, looks like the old DNC has their new target. I have seen many posts from left wing news sources putting uncle Joe in the cross hairs. Watch! They are going to take him down hard. Too much baggage. Bye Bye uncle Joe.
Biden's not my first choice, but really dude, you should relax, stop crying and start looking for real answers to your obvious problems.
 

kgp

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Biden's not my first choice, but really dude, you should relax, stop crying and start looking for real answers to your obvious problems.
I have no problems in life. Whoever gets elected isn't going to change my world one bit. Life is good here.

I am here for entertainment. And you do provide plenty of that. Makes my day go by a little faster. Humor is good for the soul. And again, there is plenty provided here.
 

Fogdog

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One must deal with facts such as these in order to beat Trump:


Why A Powerful Nevada Union Is Undermining Bernie Sanders On Medicare For All
The Culinary Workers Union has built up its own excellent health plan over the years and doesn’t want private insurance phased out.

The Culinary is arguably the most powerful union local in the country, having organized all but a handful of casinos and hotels on the Strip, and it offers top-notch health care because that’s where it’s chosen to put so much of its leverage. In contract negotiations, wages and health care represent different pockets of the same coat, with employers willing to raise their total labor costs only so much. Culinary members have forgone pay increases in order to create and maintain their prize health plan.

What union wouldn’t love to take a messy and expensive issue like health care off the bargaining table for good? But from the Culinary’s perspective, Medicare for All could scrap a health plan their members like and replace it with something untested, with no refund on the capital they spent in the past to build it up.



This is where Sanders supporters start bashing unions. Because facts are immutable they get angry. Just like Trump supporters, right @kgp ?
 

kgp

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One must deal with facts such as these in order to beat Trump:


Why A Powerful Nevada Union Is Undermining Bernie Sanders On Medicare For All
The Culinary Workers Union has built up its own excellent health plan over the years and doesn’t want private insurance phased out.

The Culinary is arguably the most powerful union local in the country, having organized all but a handful of casinos and hotels on the Strip, and it offers top-notch health care because that’s where it’s chosen to put so much of its leverage. In contract negotiations, wages and health care represent different pockets of the same coat, with employers willing to raise their total labor costs only so much. Culinary members have forgone pay increases in order to create and maintain their prize health plan.

What union wouldn’t love to take a messy and expensive issue like health care off the bargaining table for good? But from the Culinary’s perspective, Medicare for All could scrap a health plan their members like and replace it with something untested, with no refund on the capital they spent in the past to build it up.



This is where Sanders supporters start bashing unions. Because facts are immutable they get angry. Just like Trump supporters, right @kgp ?
Wrong. I cant speak for trump supporters but I can speak for myself.

See there will always be issues that people disagree with. No one with half a brain should support everything any candidate says 100%.

And that is the exact reason the left is falling apart. I could agree with some of the things every candidate mentions to a degree. But the eft will eat their own if one thing goes astray.

The same reason I get attacked here on a daily because I voted for trump over hillary. According to RIU I am a racist, neo nazi, pedophile, trailer trash, white supremacist,..etc..

Brenies idea of healthcare for all is stupid. It might cost him the nomination. But like I said, the left will eat their own. And they all are extremest compared to any level headed american citizen who just wants moderate compromise and changes that benefit the majority,.
 

hanimmal

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Wrong. I cant speak for trump supporters but I can speak for myself.

See there will always be issues that people disagree with. No one with half a brain should support everything any candidate says 100%.

And that is the exact reason the left is falling apart. I could agree with some of the things every candidate mentions to a degree. But the eft will eat their own if one thing goes astray.

The same reason I get attacked here on a daily because I voted for trump over hillary. According to RIU I am a racist, neo nazi, pedophile, trailer trash, white supremacist,..etc..

Brenies idea of healthcare for all is stupid. It might cost him the nomination. But like I said, the left will eat their own. And they all are extremest compared to any level headed american citizen who just wants moderate compromise and changes that benefit the majority,.
Your own words are what caused you to get called all those things, quit snow flaking about how it is everyone else fault.

At any point you could just quit trying to spread Dear Leaders lies and become part of the conversation here, but you just can't shake off the 'whoa is me' long enough to not just resort to crying about how everything is so unfair for you.
 

Fogdog

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Wrong. I cant speak for trump supporters but I can speak for myself.

See there will always be issues that people disagree with. No one with half a brain should support everything any candidate says 100%.

And that is the exact reason the left is falling apart. I could agree with some of the things every candidate mentions to a degree. But the eft will eat their own if one thing goes astray.

The same reason I get attacked here on a daily because I voted for trump over hillary. According to RIU I am a racist, neo nazi, pedophile, trailer trash, white supremacist,..etc..

Brenies idea of healthcare for all is stupid. It might cost him the nomination. But like I said, the left will eat their own. And they all are extremest compared to any level headed american citizen who just wants moderate compromise and changes that benefit the majority,.
So, you don't know anything and expect us to just listen to your rambling asshole statements? No attempt to convince, just yelling and crying when you are rightly called an ignoramus.

Goddamn Trumpers and Sanders supporters just cite propaganda while openly dismissing facts.
 

kgp

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Your own words are what caused you to get called all those things, quit snow flaking about how it is everyone else fault.

At any point you could just quit trying to spread Dear Leaders lies and become part of the conversation here, but you just can't shake off the 'whoa is me' long enough to not just resort to crying about how everything is so unfair for you.
Absurd.. From my very first post where I talked about moderates, because I said i casted a vote for trump, you all went full HAM.

In the political section, a difference in political opinion should be a talking point.

Don't get crying confused with pointing out the obvious. I would enjoy an adult, intellectual debate, but you know how that goes... LOL
 

hanimmal

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Absurd.. From my very first post where I talked about moderates, because I said i casted a vote for trump, you all went full HAM.

In the political section, a difference in political opinion should be a talking point.

Don't get crying confused with pointing out the obvious. I would enjoy an adult, intellectual debate, but you know how that goes... LOL
Yet another crybaby post. Why not think of something to say that you care about.

It is not that hard if you don't just react negatively, it might take some practice to get over having to troll or responding to being trolled, but once you get past that it is pretty easy.

Maybe start small, what is something that you actually care about, not a manufactured issue by Trump trolls, but something that would actually impact your life, and start there.
 

kgp

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So, you don't know anything and expect us to just listen to your rambling asshole statements? No attempt to convince, just yelling and crying when you are rightly called an ignoramus.

Goddamn Trumpers and Sanders supporters just cite propaganda while openly dismissing facts.
Now sanders supporters are getting lumped into one like trump supporters. Eating their own. Just like I said.

I can argue facts but just like the fake news and and internal investigations its all a matter of opinion unless you are in the know. Which we are not..

The information we are provided is bought and paid for by those who want us to think one particular way, and that goes for both sides.

I trust you more than politicians and media outlets. And I don't even know you.
 

hanimmal

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Now sanders supporters are getting lumped into one like trump supporters. Eating their own. Just like I said.

I can argue facts but just like the fake news and and internal investigations its all a matter of opinion unless you are in the know. Which we are not..

The information we are provided is bought and paid for by those who want us to think one particular way, and that goes for both sides.

I trust you more than politicians and media outlets. And I don't even know you.
It is important to understand that this is because the Russians have used Bernie for exactly that reason. Same poison, different flavor.

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Fogdog

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Now sanders supporters are getting lumped into one like trump supporters. Eating their own. Just like I said.

I can argue facts but just like the fake news and and internal investigations its all a matter of opinion unless you are in the know. Which we are not..

The information we are provided is bought and paid for by those who want us to think one particular way, and that goes for both sides.

I trust you more than politicians and media outlets. And I don't even know you.
As the post above shows, I'm right and you are wrong.

I don't rely on my belief to form opinions, I use facts and verifiable information. As discussions in this thread show, you Trumpers and Cult of Sanders have abandoned reality to spout crap that comes from other outside sources. Yet those sources don't promote facts and are funded by right wing wealth.

So, yes, I quite rightly point at you and @Padawanbater2 as examples of the same problem. Devoid of facts, charged with emotion you both are unhinged from reality and brainwashed by right wing puppet masters.
 

Fogdog

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Who invited that whiner in here?

Man, he really eats the right-wing propaganda with a spoon! :lol:


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my fault, boss. I made the mistake of pointing out to Pad that he's just the same as @kgp and @kgp came here to whine. You'd think that @kgp would avoid the abuse he gets here but @kgp seems to think he has a valid opinion when he clearly states that his opinions are baseless.
 
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