Aussie Growers Thread

reza92

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I have never heard of them before so it didnt hurt.

I dont spend as much time in forums etc anymore. Or chasing the next best inovation like i used to either.

Used to spend as much a i made trying new things and buying new lights etc. These days I'm not really interested unless im expanding or replacing something that broke.

The truth is when i crunched the numbers on making my own leds i found if i wanted to match the output of my 630w set up I pretty much had to use about the same wattage in leds.

Almost every led manufacturer was trying to say i could use like half the power.

Those guys recommend for my space about 700w which i totally agree with. Its refreshing to see some honestly in the industry.
if you need 700w of leds you could be running 900-1100w of hid if you’ve got temp control down pat. Good leds produce more photons per watt than hids with a much better and even spread across the canopy. Downside of leds is no IR so you have to keep an eye on leaf temps.

if I was replacing hid lights I’d replace 600w hid with 450w of led and 1000w of hid with 6-700w led.
 

OzyM8

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Sounds like you’ve done all you can do, but it’s not too bad of a fluctuation.
Maybe play around with sensor positioning if you haven’t already?
Not sure about the co2 tank but the generator (lpg) produces a lot of heat and adds a lot of humidity (byproduct being water vapour)
So any bigger swings in co2 for me affects environment quite a bit.
It’s all a balancing act isn’t it?
I went with tank co2 to try and avoid the extra dehu and added heat from a burner. The dehu puts out a fair bit of heat when running anyway. Part of the reason I went LED also, trying to bring total room BTU down so I didn’t have to upsize the AC.
 

2easy

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if you need 700w of leds you could be running 900-1100w of hid if you’ve got temp control down pat. Good leds produce more photons per watt than hids with a much better and even spread across the canopy. Downside of leds is no IR so you have to keep an eye on leaf temps.

if I was replacing hid lights I’d replace 600w hid with 450w of led and 1000w of hid with 6-700w led.
Not to drag yas off topic,
What size tent you running
1.5m x 1.5m

5 foot x 5 Foot
5x5=25 square feet
The general consensus is you should have about 30w of led per square foot

30x25= 750w
 

Hydro4life

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It’s all a balancing act isn’t it?
I went with tank co2 to try and avoid the extra dehu and added heat from a burner. The dehu puts out a fair bit of heat when running anyway. Part of the reason I went LED also, trying to bring total room BTU down so I didn’t have to upsize the AC.
Exactly man!
Where I am the humidity is usually like 10%!
So much easier bringing humidity down than trying to get it up (still talking about the humidity ha) so it suits me there.
Just the heat is my issue.
Was contemplating LEDs for this reason also and like you mentioned ozy, it’s not just the saving in light efficiency but the savings on a/c bill also.
 

JimyTheCook

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Sounds like allot of stuffin round to have co2 "dialed in". How much of a difference or whats the benefits of runnin a sealed room with co2 over a room that is drawin air from outside, apart from possible pests an wat not
 

klx

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All good mate. Perhaps you were expecting antisemitism from me???? No!!!!!!!!

Some of my best mates from school days & playing in a band are Jews. I've waded-in when some dickheads on a street in Elsternwick started giving us a hard time about being Jewish - "I'm a fucking Irish Catholic ya dumb cunts & these are my mates. Wanna try another go at ME???".

They backed-off.
Not at all man farthest thing from my mind was genuinely interested in your market theory.

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OzyM8

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Sounds like allot of stuffin round to have co2 "dialed in". How much of a difference or whats the benefits of runnin a sealed room with co2 over a room that is drawin air from outside, apart from possible pests an wat not
Not really a lot of stuffing around Jimmy, just another tool to use.
You can still limit pests with an ambient air exchange room with proper filtration on the intake side. Best is to do that anyway not only for pests but for other airborne stuff too.
Sealed room done properly with enviro controls etc.. lets you set up n control all aspects of the grow environment rather than being at the mercy of ambient conditions.
In a sealed room you can use co2 for more than increase yield and speed. Even when you don’t want to be running high levels of co2 you can still replicate ambient co2 levels and keep environment in check.
Other benefits too m8.
Genetically cannabis, like most plants, evolved when ambient co2 levels were much higher than they are now, hence why increasing co2 works.
 
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beernutz

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Hahaha how’d I know u’d be the first to chime in.. sheesh.
Its like this, I, like millions of others, like to flip and harvest my garden according to the moon. All my grows have been outdoor during veg and in for flower. Whether gardening by the moon has any significant effect I don’t know for certain but the sacs seem to swell accordingly..? Safasteve likes to go by moon cycles too, why don’t u ask him if he notices any benefits from it?
I actually planted my wonder woman by the moon phase this year first time....
 

reza92

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1.5m x 1.5m

5 foot x 5 Foot
5x5=25 square feet
The general consensus is you should have about 30w of led per square foot

30x25= 750w
Yeah that’s about right. Better leds you can go 20-25w per sq foot. In that size space you could run 1000-1200w of hid but.
 

Hydro4life

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Sounds like allot of stuffin round to have co2 "dialed in". How much of a difference or whats the benefits of runnin a sealed room with co2 over a room that is drawin air from outside, apart from possible pests an wat not
Yea it can be jimy, but if you get everything right, growth is faster and buds become huge.
Basically it puts your plant into overdrive if done correctly.
plants are generally more healthier too:cool:
 
So I am currently at this stage have not changed up the lighting have only been using distilled water and this root enhancer as you can see it's a jungle tho their looking really healthy at the moment being a first time grower I just want to get these first few stages correct.i can't believe it's only taken 4 days lol
 

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JimyTheCook

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Not really a lot of stuffing around Jimmy, just another tool to use.
You can still limit pests with an ambient air exchange room with proper filtration on the intake side. Best is to do that anyway not only for pests but for other airborne stuff too.
Sealed room done properly with enviro controls etc.. lets you set up n control all aspects of the grow environment rather than being at the mercy of ambient conditions.
In a sealed room you can use co2 for more than increase yield and speed. Even when you don’t want to be running high levels of co2 you can still replicate ambient co2 levels and keep environment in check.
Other benefits too m8.
Genetically cannabis, like most plants, evolved when ambient co2 levels were much higher than they are now, hence why increasing co2 works.
Tried to put together a good reply but got nothing for ya ozy, ill just sit back smile nod an say yea i understand. :bigjoint:
Although it makes sense an once ya have everything sorted an some basic understandin of how everything works it would be allot easier to control the inviroment.
 

JimyTheCook

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So I am currently at this stage have not changed up the lighting have only been using distilled water and this root enhancer as you can see it's a jungle tho their looking really healthy at the moment being a first time grower I just want to get these first few stages correct.i can't believe it's only taken 4 days lol
There healthy lookin mate.. If it was mine id be lookin at splittin those up asaps though.
 
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