Mag/calcium deficiency?

SamWE19

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Epsom is good for Mg but you also need calcium. I use solution-grade garden gypsum. It dissolves well enough at dosings 3to 5 times higher than yours. I mix it into my reservoir to arrive at about 50 or so ppm of Ca.Gypsum is 23.3% Ca. So 50 ppm means about 1gram/5 liters gypsum. Add 25 ppm Mg by adding Epsom salt which is 10% Mg. That’s 1gram/4 liters.

Avoid calcium chloride. You risk Cl lockout.
Gypsum + Epsom salt not gonna cause too much Sulfur? Baring in mind my base nute has a bit of Sulfur 4.5%
 

curious2garden

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I agree it increases terpene production from my research just unsure of the ppm that would cause burn
In hydro you are looking for burn at your tips. That tells you to back it off a little. At least that's how I run hydro on new strains I haven't dialed in. Oh and since I pheno hunt they are almost all new strains.
 

2com

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But, an apparent 'deficiency' in one or more elements does not necessarily mean that there is a shortage of that element. It could be many things; temp, humidity, ph, other elements in over abundance causing a lockout of something, etc.
Just repeating. It doesn't necessarily mean you need more. I know that doesn't exactly give an answer. I just think it's good to remember. For example, you've double checked your pH meter (if using one), or tried drop test kit on some other more known pH to compare? Just trying to help somehow.


If you can find out what the low N CaliMagic is "derived from" (made of) - ie: the source of calcium, magnesium, etc., then you can look for those products individually. Like MgSO4, etc.

Looks like you've got help from some more knowledgeable growers now :)

Lastly, again, why not use a elemental nutrient calculator and share what (approximate) levels things are at? It's just a little bit more info/insight into things.

You'll get it sorted, bud.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Just repeating. It doesn't necessarily mean you need more. I know that doesn't exactly give an answer. I just think it's good to remember. For example, you've double checked your pH meter (if using one), or tried drop test kit on some other more known pH to compare? Just trying to help somehow.


If you can find out what the low N CaliMagic is "derived from" (made of) - ie: the source of calcium, magnesium, etc., then you can look for those products individually. Like MgSO4, etc.

Looks like you've got help from some more knowledgeable growers now :)

Lastly, again, why not use a elemental nutrient calculator and share what (approximate) levels things are at? It's just a little bit more info/insight into things.

You'll get it sorted, bud.
At his low nutrient loading, Annie is right. It is a Ca deficit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What’s your verdict on my burnt tips then? What specific element is causing that burn?

the burnt tips on new leaves
I can’t tell you which ion. In your position my next move would be to listen to Annie’s good advice and add Ca. It’s a low-risk high-gain action.
 

SamWE19

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I can’t tell you which ion. In your position my next move would be to listen to Annie’s good advice and add Ca. It’s a low-risk high-gain action.
Gonna do that as soon as the gypsum arrives in the mail on Monday. I guess I couldn’t understand having a nutrient toxicity and a deficiency at same time... when my previous grow was fine.

but come to think of it there was one difference in my last grow I forgot all about, I was using temporary lights before I switched on my high powered cobs... these leds are putting out 1500ppfd across the canopy at max power.
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
What’s your verdict on my burnt tips then? What specific element is causing that burn?

the burnt tips on new leaves
You show a K def too. In hydro I look for a burnt tip. I'd leave the nutrients where they are and I'd simply add the Ca. I do not understand why you seem to want to do anything but add Ca? You will get all kinds of suggestions that support you in doing that. Ultimately it's your grow and you will have to live with your decision. Best part about that is you will learn from whatever choice you make.

Any I took these for you to demonstrate the tip burn I shoot for, good luck.
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