Public Health: Tips and information on how to prepare for the epidemic, avoid illness and protect our communities.

DIY-HP-LED

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Some places are already doing drive through and delivery only, no walk ins.
Everybody uses the same bank card machine and they shove it out the window for the 100 people in front of you to use without wiping it down in between. You're being served by healthy looking young people who maybe crawling with virus, fast food should be off the menu unless special measures are taken by the vulnerable.
 

Fogdog

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I agree but it's gonna take longer than 2 weeks.......2-3 months maybe ....devastating
I don't know either but 2-3 months is not even close to what I think is a possibility. It may die out in a few weeks, what Angela Merkel spoke about in her address to the people of Germany is "most of you will be infected". "most" being more than half. US population is 327 million. So, 150 million cases to go. If we don't slow it down, the single digit proportion of those infected that need critical care and ICU would cause the health care system to collapse. So, let's all just do what we can to slow it down by staying home, cooking in and bitching at those unfortunate enough to endure this in the same house. Slowing it down, the better option, means many months if not a year for this thing to work its way through our population.

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We want that lower curve. We'll figure it out. Probably. I hope so.
 

doublejj

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I don't know either but 2-3 months is not even close to what I think is a possibility. It may die out in a few weeks, what Angela Merkel spoke about in her address to the people of Germany is "most of you will be infected". "most" being more than half. US population is 327 million. So, 150 million cases to go. If we don't slow it down, the single digit proportion of those infected that need critical care and ICU would cause the health care system to collapse. So, let's all just do what we can to slow it down by staying home, cooking in and bitching at those unfortunate enough to endure this in the same house. Slowing it down, the better option, means many months if not a year for this thing to work its way through our population.

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We want that lower curve. We'll figure it out. Probably. I hope so.
with the gumba that the republicans put in charge, we are all fucked
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I don't know either but 2-3 months is not even close to what I think is a possibility. It may die out in a few weeks, what Angela Merkel spoke about in her address to the people of Germany is "most of you will be infected". "most" being more than half. US population is 327 million. So, 150 million cases to go. If we don't slow it down, the single digit proportion of those infected that need critical care and ICU would cause the health care system to collapse. So, let's all just do what we can to slow it down by staying home, cooking in and bitching at those unfortunate enough to endure this in the same house. Slowing it down, the better option, means many months if not a year for this thing to work its way through our population.

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We want that lower curve. We'll figure it out. Probably. I hope so.
The mortality rate+ depends on the shape of the curve, the lower the curve the lower the mortality rate and total number of deaths. They will need to test people for immunity too, not just for the virus and get them back to work. Negative test and it's back to work, the more of them, the more herd immunity and that flattens out the curve as well. the mortality rate appears to range from .6% with an excellent response to over 5% with a shitty one, America has had plenty of warnings about what will happen if dramatic mitigation measures are not taken immediately.

The federal government should be moving reserve resources to your area now, you people are gonna be slammed hard, good luck Foggy.
 

doublejj

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In October 2019, a group of 15 business people, government officials, and health experts gathered around a table in New York to plan out the global response to a worldwide outbreak of a never-before-seen — and completely fictional — coronavirus.
Three and a half hours later, the group finished the simulation exercise — and despite their best efforts, they couldn’t prevent the hypothetical coronavirus from killing 65 million people.
 

zeddd

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The mortality rate+ depends on the shape of the curve, the lower the curve the lower the mortality rate and total number of deaths. They will need to test people for immunity too, not just for the virus and get them back to work. Negative test and it's back to work, the more of them, the more herd immunity and that flattens out the curve as well. the mortality rate appears to range from .6% with an excellent response to over 5% with a shitty one, America has had plenty of warnings about what will happen if dramatic mitigation measures are not taken immediately.

The federal government should be moving reserve resources to your area now, you people are gonna be slammed hard, good luck Foggy.
Hey man stop posting bullshit mortality rates, I asked nicely once before. The global mortality rate is 7%.
 

Warpedpassage

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Hey man stop posting bullshit mortality rates, I asked nicely once before. The global mortality rate is 7%.
Do you mind posting where you are getting 7% global mortality rate?
And now that you have asked nicely, whats next?

The mortality rate+ depends on the shape of the curve, the lower the curve the lower the mortality rate and total number of deaths. They will need to test people for immunity too, not just for the virus and get them back to work. Negative test and it's back to work, the more of them, the more herd immunity and that flattens out the curve as well. the mortality rate appears to range from .6% with an excellent response to over 5% with a shitty one, America has had plenty of warnings about what will happen if dramatic mitigation measures are not taken immediately.

The federal government should be moving reserve resources to your area now, you people are gonna be slammed hard, good luck Foggy.
The idea of dealing with this virus with a herd immunity strategy without an existing vaccine will certainly lead to millions of death in the u.s., even with a lower mortality rate. Herd immunity strategies with vaccines are meant as preventive measures. This is simply not where we are currently with this virus. Im aware there is fucking about with these ideas in the u.k but they will not likely go down this route because it will ensure the deaths of a million u.k residents even with around a 2.0 mortality rate.
 

zeddd

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Do you mind posting where you are getting 7% global mortality rate?
And now that you have asked nicely, whats next?



The idea of dealing with this virus with a herd immunity strategy without an existing vaccine will certainly lead to millions of death in the u.s., even with a lower mortality rate. Herd immunity strategies with vaccines are meant as preventive measures. This is simply not where we are currently with this virus. Im aware there is fucking about with these ideas in the u.k but they will not likely go down this route because it will ensure the deaths of a million u.k residents even with around a 2.0 mortality rate.
Thanks for asking https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 

Warpedpassage

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Thanks.
is it not misleading to say its at 7% with that data? You are assuming all (100%) that are currently in serious or critical condition will die. That is the only way you can extrapolate a global rate at 7%. Obviously the information we all have is incomplete but the consensus seems to be the global rate is below 4%. In italy it is clearly much higher considering the older population and the systems utter inability to treat everyone afflicted. Im hearing they are the point they are no longer even treating the elderly in their triage areas. Fucking ridiculous.
 

zeddd

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Thanks.
is it not misleading to say its at 7% with that data? You are assuming all (100%) that are currently in serious or critical condition will die. That is the only way you can extrapolate a global rate at 7%. Obviously the information we all have is incomplete but the consensus seems to be the global rate is below 4%. In italy it is clearly much higher considering the older population and the systems utter inability to treat everyone afflicted. Im hearing they are the point they are no longer even treating the elderly in their triage areas. Fucking ridiculous.
You can’t factor in living people who display signs and symptoms of the active SARS-Cov-2 with mortality rates definitively. Mortality rates are the figures derived from cases with an outcome i.e they survived or they died. You divide the number of dead people by the total number of cases-with-an-outcome x 100 to get the figures.
 

Warpedpassage

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You can’t factor in living people who display signs and symptoms of the active SARS-Cov-2 with mortality rates definitively. Mortality rates are the figures derived from cases with an outcome i.e they survived or they died. You divide the number of dead people by the total number of cases-with-an-outcome x 100 to get the figures.
Right, so when you look at the total numbers on the page you linked the global death rate in below 4% not 7% as you stated. Am i misunderstanding something?
 
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