zeddd
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81,799
Cases which had an outcome:
75,954 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
5,845 (7%) Dead
Public Health: Tips and information on how to prepare for the epidemic, avoid illness and protect our communities.
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Cases which had an outcome:
75,954 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
5,845 (7%) Dead
DIY-HP-LED
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That's not the mortality rate in S Korea where the response has been excellent, mortality rates will vary widely depending on preparations and the rate of spread. The death rates are becoming clearer, it depends on the response an overwhelmed medical system will see a lot more of them than one where the rate of infection is spread less quickly. These are published facts, counter with facts not insults.
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BarnBuster
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7 AM here off, to Meijer to see what it's like. I'm pretty well stocked on everything, getting some ground beef on sale for chili to freeze. Only 20 some confirmed in my state., closest about 60 miles away. Walmart completely out of TP/Sanitizer/Iso yesterday.
Budley Doright
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3000-4000 students gather for St Pats day party at Queens U 
! Bunch of fucking inconsiderate pricks should all be charged with public endangerment. What I’m seeing is a bunch of stupid fucks everywhere not getting it. They don’t get that the measures being undertaken are to slow the thing and they also don’t get the danger. My ex wife had the balls to say Italians are huggie people and that’s why it’s bad there.......fucking imbecile. My own kids are saying “it’s no worse than the flu” and I thought they were smart 
. I made the owner of our company put together a plan of action yesterday and put sanitizer on the front counter for customers, they had nothing. We just started to buy gloves and sanitizer for field staff FFS. I stressed to them that if one person gets it we shut the fuck down for 14 days minimum, they had no clue .
! Bunch of fucking inconsiderate pricks should all be charged with public endangerment. What I’m seeing is a bunch of stupid fucks everywhere not getting it. They don’t get that the measures being undertaken are to slow the thing and they also don’t get the danger. My ex wife had the balls to say Italians are huggie people and that’s why it’s bad there.......fucking imbecile. My own kids are saying “it’s no worse than the flu” and I thought they were smart . I made the owner of our company put together a plan of action yesterday and put sanitizer on the front counter for customers, they had nothing. We just started to buy gloves and sanitizer for field staff FFS. I stressed to them that if one person gets it we shut the fuck down for 14 days minimum, they had no clue .
zeddd
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7 % globally you dick
Warpedpassage
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Again you are choosing to not include the current cases. While everyone else when referring to the global death rate include all the figures, like at the very top of the page you link.
So ,
159,649 corona cases
5960 deaths
75,957 recovered
That is 3.7%
So the page you link is great it gives a more complete picture than just saying its 3.7% or 7%.
zeddd
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I give up, as I said you can’t factor in active cases, re read and you will understand.
Sunbiz1
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"The history of human coronaviruses began in 1965 when Tyrrell and Bynoe1 found that they could passage a virus named B814. It was found in human embryonic tracheal organ cultures obtained from the respiratory tract of an adult with a common cold."
journals.lww.com
Many of us have already had it.
History and Recent Advances in Coronavirus Discovery : The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal
ch caused significant morbidity and mortality. NL63, representing a group of newly identified group I coronaviruses that includes NL and the New Haven coronavirus, has been identified worldwide. These viruses are associated with both upper and lower respiratory tract disease and are likely...
journals.lww.com
Many of us have already had it.
DIY-HP-LED
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I live in Canada not globally and neither do you, you are behaving like a dick and think you're some kind of mathematical "jenius". The global mortality rate of 7% is still dynamic and will change over time and response. I'm hoping for a proper government response in my country and a mortality rate of 1%, not as good as S Korea with .84%.
Stop the petty fogging bullshit and take your anger issues somewhere else.
One chart shows how the coronavirus is more deadly than the flu even in South Korea, where the COVID-19 death rate is low
South Korea has reported lower coronavirus death rates than other countries. But even those rates indicate COVID-19 is far more deadly than the flu.
www.businessinsider.com
"A big factor in South Korea's low reported COVID-19 death rate is the country's aggressive testing policy. South Korea has been running as many as 10,000 coronavirus tests per day. Higher rates of testing can lead to lower death rates because more mild and asymptomatic cases are likely to be caught and factored into the ratio.
As of Thursday, 66 out of 7,869, or 0.84%, South Korean patients confirmed to have the coronavirus have died. Meanwhile, as of Thursday in the US, 38 out of 1,358 confirmed cases have resulted in death, a 2.8% death rate".
Budley Doright
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Anyone who thinks any of these figures are accurate are sadly mistaken ........ there is a whole bunch of inaccuracies and unknowns. The best thing to say is it’s bad at this point lol. I’ve come to the realization I’ll get it and it won’t be over in 30 days (recommendation for self isolation here). And stop being such a cunt Zeddd FFS it’s a bad look.
zeddd
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Spreading fake optimism in a pandemic is irresponsible, giving people unsolicited advice when wrong is doubly stupid. I suggest you go back to meditation and leave epidemiology to those that know about it.I live in Canada not globally and neither do you, you are behaving like a dick and think you're some kind of mathematical "jenius". The global mortality rate of 7% is still dynamic and will change over time and response. I'm hoping for a proper government response in my country and a mortality rate of 1%, not as good as S Korea with .84%.
Stop the petty fogging bullshit and take your anger issues somewhere else.
One chart shows how the coronavirus is more deadly than the flu even in South Korea, where the COVID-19 death rate is low
South Korea has reported lower coronavirus death rates than other countries. But even those rates indicate COVID-19 is far more deadly than the flu.
"A big factor in South Korea's low reported COVID-19 death rate is the country's aggressive testing policy. South Korea has been running as many as 10,000 coronavirus tests per day. Higher rates of testing can lead to lower death rates because more mild and asymptomatic cases are likely to be caught and factored into the ratio.
As of Thursday, 66 out of 7,869, or 0.84%, South Korean patients confirmed to have the coronavirus have died. Meanwhile, as of Thursday in the US, 38 out of 1,358 confirmed cases have resulted in death, a 2.8% death rate".
zeddd
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I agree that the official figures will be on the low side as many have not been tested, I think cunt is justified if it stops people being blasé and irresponsible with data. The mathematics is very simple but easily misinterpreted.
DIY-HP-LED
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Keep spreading joy zeddd...
DIY-HP-LED
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Vitamin D deficiency soars in the U.S., study says
New research suggests that most Americans are lacking a crucial vitamin.
www.scientificamerican.com
Three-quarters of U.S. teens and adults are deficient in vitamin D, the so-called "sunshine vitamin" whose deficits are increasingly blamed for everything from cancer and heart disease to diabetes, according to new research.
The trend marks a dramatic increase in the amount of vitamin D deficiency in the U.S., according to findings set to be published tomorrow in the Archives of Internal Medicine. Between 1988 and 1994, 45 percent of 18,883 people (who were examined as part of the federal government's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey) had 30 nanograms per milliliter or more of vitamin D, the blood level a growing number of doctors consider sufficient for overall health; a decade later, just 23 percent of 13,369 of those surveyed had at least that amount.
The slide was particularly striking among African Americans: just 3 percent of 3,149 blacks sampled in 2004 were found to have the recommended levels compared with 12 percent of 5,362 sampled two decades ago.
"We were anticipating that there would be some decline in overall vitamin D levels, but the magnitude of the decline in a relatively short time period was surprising," says study co-author Adit Ginde, an assistant professor at the University of Colorado Denver School of Medicine. Lack of vitamin D is linked to rickets (soft, weak bones) in children and thinning bones in the elderly, but scientists also believe it may play a role in heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
"We're just starting to scratch the surface of what the health effects of vitamin D are," Ginde tells ScientificAmerican.com. "There's reason to pay attention for sure."
But Mary France Picciano, a senior nutrition scientist in the National Institutes of Health's Office of Dietary Supplements, is skeptical that the dip is as deep or widespread as suggested, noting that there's disagreement on how much vitamin D is needed. She notes that the Institute of Medicine (IOM) defines insufficiency as less than11 nanograms per milliliter. Using that as a threshold, some 10 percent of U.S. adults are vitamin D deficient, according to a study published in November in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
That earlier study, co-authored by Picciano, also found that vitamin D deficiency had become more common between the late 1980s and 2004, but that between half and 75 percent of that difference was due to changes in the test used to measure those blood levels and therefore wasn’t a true gauge. "The results are far overstated and their findings are not as accurate as ours," Picciano says. "There is some deficiency — I don't want to minimize that — but it's not as high as they're saying."
Ginde insists the results are reliable. "There's potential for methodology contributing to some of what we found," he says, but the magnitude of the change and other research "argue that this is the reality in the U.S. right now."
Ginde, who last month linked vitamin D deficiency to catching more colds, blames increasing use of sunscreen and long sleeves following skin cancer-prevention campaigns for the change. Using a sunscreen with as little as a 15-factor protection cuts the skin's vitamin D production by 99 percent, the study notes, and there are few sources of the vitamin in our diets. Some food sources are salmon, tuna, mackerel and vitamin D-fortified dairy products, such as milk.
IOM recommends that people get 200-600 International Units (IU) of vitamin D daily, but it's reviewing whether to increase that recommendation in the wake of new studies. An update is expected in May 2010. Ginde believes that whatever those recommendations turn out to be, blacks should take double the amount of vitamin D supplements, because they have more melanin or pigment in their skin that makes it harder for the body to absorb and use the sun's ultraviolet rays to synthesize vitamin D. He adds that people should also take greater amounts of vitamin D in the winter when there's less sunlight.
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New research suggests that most Americans are lacking a crucial vitamin.
- By Jordan Lite on March 23, 2009
Vitamin D deficiency soars in the U.S., study says
New research suggests that most Americans are lacking a crucial vitamin.
Three-quarters of U.S. teens and adults are deficient in vitamin D, the so-called "sunshine vitamin" whose deficits are increasingly blamed for everything from cancer and heart disease to diabetes, according to new research.
The trend marks a dramatic increase in the amount of vitamin D deficiency in the U.S., according to findings set to be published tomorrow in the Archives of Internal Medicine. Between 1988 and 1994, 45 percent of 18,883 people (who were examined as part of the federal government's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey) had 30 nanograms per milliliter or more of vitamin D, the blood level a growing number of doctors consider sufficient for overall health; a decade later, just 23 percent of 13,369 of those surveyed had at least that amount.
The slide was particularly striking among African Americans: just 3 percent of 3,149 blacks sampled in 2004 were found to have the recommended levels compared with 12 percent of 5,362 sampled two decades ago.
"We were anticipating that there would be some decline in overall vitamin D levels, but the magnitude of the decline in a relatively short time period was surprising," says study co-author Adit Ginde, an assistant professor at the University of Colorado Denver School of Medicine. Lack of vitamin D is linked to rickets (soft, weak bones) in children and thinning bones in the elderly, but scientists also believe it may play a role in heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
"We're just starting to scratch the surface of what the health effects of vitamin D are," Ginde tells ScientificAmerican.com. "There's reason to pay attention for sure."
But Mary France Picciano, a senior nutrition scientist in the National Institutes of Health's Office of Dietary Supplements, is skeptical that the dip is as deep or widespread as suggested, noting that there's disagreement on how much vitamin D is needed. She notes that the Institute of Medicine (IOM) defines insufficiency as less than11 nanograms per milliliter. Using that as a threshold, some 10 percent of U.S. adults are vitamin D deficient, according to a study published in November in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
That earlier study, co-authored by Picciano, also found that vitamin D deficiency had become more common between the late 1980s and 2004, but that between half and 75 percent of that difference was due to changes in the test used to measure those blood levels and therefore wasn’t a true gauge. "The results are far overstated and their findings are not as accurate as ours," Picciano says. "There is some deficiency — I don't want to minimize that — but it's not as high as they're saying."
Ginde insists the results are reliable. "There's potential for methodology contributing to some of what we found," he says, but the magnitude of the change and other research "argue that this is the reality in the U.S. right now."
Ginde, who last month linked vitamin D deficiency to catching more colds, blames increasing use of sunscreen and long sleeves following skin cancer-prevention campaigns for the change. Using a sunscreen with as little as a 15-factor protection cuts the skin's vitamin D production by 99 percent, the study notes, and there are few sources of the vitamin in our diets. Some food sources are salmon, tuna, mackerel and vitamin D-fortified dairy products, such as milk.
IOM recommends that people get 200-600 International Units (IU) of vitamin D daily, but it's reviewing whether to increase that recommendation in the wake of new studies. An update is expected in May 2010. Ginde believes that whatever those recommendations turn out to be, blacks should take double the amount of vitamin D supplements, because they have more melanin or pigment in their skin that makes it harder for the body to absorb and use the sun's ultraviolet rays to synthesize vitamin D. He adds that people should also take greater amounts of vitamin D in the winter when there's less sunlight.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Vitamin D Deficiency and Related Disorders
Epidemiology
Occurrence in the United States
Vitamin D insufficiency is highest among people who are elderly, institutionalized, or hospitalized. In the United States, 60% of nursing home residents [20] and 57% of hospitalized patients [21] were found to be vitamin D deficient.
However, vitamin D insufficiency is not restricted to the elderly and hospitalized population; several studies have found a high prevalence of vitamin D deficiency among healthy, young adults. A study determined that nearly two thirds of healthy, young adults in Boston were vitamin D insufficient at the end of winter
Epidemiology
Occurrence in the United States
Vitamin D insufficiency is highest among people who are elderly, institutionalized, or hospitalized. In the United States, 60% of nursing home residents [20] and 57% of hospitalized patients [21] were found to be vitamin D deficient.
However, vitamin D insufficiency is not restricted to the elderly and hospitalized population; several studies have found a high prevalence of vitamin D deficiency among healthy, young adults. A study determined that nearly two thirds of healthy, young adults in Boston were vitamin D insufficient at the end of winter
Vitamin D Deficiency and Related Disorders: Practice Essentials, Background, Pathophysiology
Vitamin D deficiency can result from inadequate exposure to sunlight; malabsorption; accelerated catabolism from certain medications; and, in infants, the minimal amount of vitamin D found in breast milk. In children, vitamin D deficiency can result in rickets, which presents as bowing of the...
emedicine.medscape.com
captainmorgan
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I managed to get a couple friends to start taking vitamin D in the last few years.
DIY-HP-LED
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There is very good evidence that it greatly reduces the risk of getting sick with viral infections and spares you from the worst effects if you do end up ill. If those around you are protecting themselves from infection it will benefit you, I encourage people to look into it for their and my own protection. If people are worried about the coronavirus this is a good place to begin to fortify yourself. My older sister takes 10,000 IU's of vitamin D a day for 10 years and says she never had a cold or flu, I told her she is taking too much vitamin D, but she has her own ideas! I take 2000 IUs and cod liver oil caps too, from what I've read over 4000 IU's a day might be trouble for some younger folks, if you are older and overweight you need more of it though.
captainmorgan
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Since getting serious about what I eat my health has improved. I used to get sick enough to go to the doctor a couple times a year at least with things like sinus infections and bronchitis. I haven't had to go the doctor in several years for those things since cleaning up my diet, still get a mild cold from time to time.
captainmorgan
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My county just limited occupancy of gyms,bars,entertainment venues and restaurants to 50%, guess they got it half right.
greg nr
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They canceled school here for 2 weeks (initially, they will reassess), and of course the kids are all out treating this like spring break. All the entertainment centers, movie theaters, and shopping centers are packed with them.
They are calling the virus the "Boomer Cleaner".
Thanks kids.
They are calling the virus the "Boomer Cleaner".
Thanks kids.