SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

[meangreengrowinmachine]

So has anyone ran a SIP where it was purely coco based? I'm about to reset for next run and I have old nutes needing used up (synthetics/Botanicare Kind). Was thinking of taking my soil out while its reamended and left to sit for a while and do a coco run for the hell of it - but then thought why not use the coco in the SIP(s) instead of a DTW setup. I figure I won't actually put much in the rez but rather top-feed and let it accumulate/wick back up for feeding. I think the only gotcha I'd have to plan around is eventual salt/toxicity build-up but I thought in that case I'll put small pumps in the rezs for pumping out the waste every so often and flush the rez with some fresh water then pump out once more. Maybe week 4/midway...

What flaws are there in that thinking? Not organic/living soil but more hempy in style with the benefit of the zez/wicking from a large source (my rez's are 6/7g if I want to fill that much).

Basically sounds like a hempy bucket. It should work out but you might need to look into how the hempy folks do it. There should be a ton of thread out there about them. I actually started with hempy buckets using perlite before finding SIPs.

 

[myinvisiblecomplication]

DIY bokashi bran. three pounds of wheat bran, molasses and some of the DIY LAB serum. Mix and let sit for three weeks then dry. View attachment 4497071View attachment 4497072View attachment 4497073

Thanks for sharing your bokashi mix. Are you able to list the measurements for this mix please

 

[NewGrower2011]

Well I tore down the SIP(s) from last run, emptied the soil out & gave the tub/rez a good wash and scrub (not perfect but good'nuf). I can attest that these Rubbermaid Brute totes are pretty damn tough. Holding up well to the light exposure and handling. The base isn't really sagging even with a living soil mix that's not overly aerated.

Next run I'm probably just going to do like I said and try some coco-based variant. Either the entire tub as a coco bed and hand-watered/top-fed or rather than mess with needing a pump in the rez to empty it I might just use them as overglorified drip pans.

Need to use up them KIND nutes is only real reason - as I was tearing it down, scrubbing shit in the bathtub I was mumbling something about why the fuck wasn't I just re-amending my soil and off to the races. You can't argue about the lower maintenance nature of living soil/organics and especially with SIP(s).

I will say I'm not looking forward to having to think about pH again and mixing crap frequently. When I mixed shit for these organic SIP(s) it was purely optional/pushing things with a little love potion here & there which again, I didn't have to really fret over pH all that much (I was using NFTG goodies so the HH does make you need to at least be thinking of pH impact).

 

[SUNDOG]

Thanks for sharing your bokashi mix. Are you able to list the measurements for this mix please

Welcome, I found lots of recipes online under "DIY bokashi bran"
I mixed 1 1/2 tablespoons of My LAB serum, 1 1/2 tablespoons of molasses and about 250-300 ml of water to 1 pound of wheat brand. Has to sit Dark/warm and unopened for 3 weeks. Then dry it out. I'll post more pics when I open it up for those interested.

 

[Imbald]

Finishing up some Alien OG x GG4
and some GMO x Black banana cookies
In two Earth boxes and four homade sips.
Day 67. Waiting on a little Amber.

 

[SUNDOG]

Finishing up some Alien OG x GG4
and some GMO x Black banana cookies
In two Earth boxes and four homade sips.
Day 67. Waiting on a little Amber.
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Buds are looking chunky imbald, great job man.

 

[myinvisiblecomplication]

Welcome, I found lots of recipes online under "DIY bokashi bran"
I mixed 1 1/2 tablespoons of My LAB serum, 1 1/2 tablespoons of molasses and about 250-300 ml of water to 1 pound of wheat brand. Has to sit Dark/warm and unopened for 3 weeks. Then dry it out. I'll post more pics when I open it up for those interested.

Pics are always helpful.

 

[GreenDave123]

Sorry didn’t mean to start a earth box thread didn’t see this one
My bad
Any secrets or tips on the earth box?
Been doing hempy for a few years
Always messing with something diffrent

 

[SUNDOG]

LAB serum taking over a small compost bin just wanted to see how it preformed. Smells like kimchi or sour kraut.

 

[myinvisiblecomplication]

Chop Chop, this was by far the Easiest Grow i have every done, water only the whole ride, never saw any insects or bugs, or creepy crawly things hahah, didnt spray anything on the plants the entire grow, just poured water from my tap into the fill hole, and this happend,, gotta love the sipView attachment 4463674

Hey Fox what was the yeild on this grow?

 

[NewGrower2011]

Well the reset happened, going this run with a semi-coco SIP.

Mixed 5 parts worm casting/coco/perlite mix (wormmix), 1 more part of chunky perlite, 1 more part of Bu's compost & 1 more part of worm castings and then 1 part NFTG #4... Pretty light & fluffy mix it seems, nicely aerated. The #4 was on hand and has a few goodies in it including yucca meal so that's why I included it.

The SIP(s) then have some nice pumps in the rez so I can flush/drain as I want. The 4" wicking tubes were packed with chunky perlite most of the way to the top so we'll see how the wicking action plays out. There's no air stone in the rez so it's really going to be used more of a catch-pan for a quasi-DTW setup where hopefully most will get used rather than wasted - knowing I'll have to monitor for salt-buildup issues. I plan to flush with RO water and then pump out as needed every couple weeks perhaps.

Same stains, lights & environment otherwise, perhaps a little warmer/different humidity is only notable variables otherwise. We'll see how this compares to the best run from before in these SIPs.

 

[Bignutes]

Ok SIP gurus I have a plan and the components have come together, just need some sage advice.

I picked up some pot elevators at 16" dia, 10 gal fabric pots at 16" dia and these plastic tubs with handles, it took a while to source the right sized stuff to make everything fit together and to get it to fit in my grow space.

So the idea is to fill the center with pumice to wick. The concern I need to address is looking into to see the water level as well as water quality. I can put a side tube down to bottom and use a dry stick to gauge water height.

Should I be concerned with anything else?

I'm running a soil and soiless mix about 50/50. Approx aeration is 25% pumice, 7% perlite, 17% rice hulls, 31% loam, 16% peat, rest diat earth and ewc.

 

[SUNDOG]

For those interested here's the diy bokashi bran after 3 weeks. That bacteria area was the size of a baseball and rock hard. Broke it up and mixed it in. Drying now.

 

[myinvisiblecomplication]

@SUNDOG nice one still waiting on the recipie

 

[Avant_Gardener]

For those interested here's the diy bokashi bran after 3 weeks. That bacteria area was the size of a baseball and rock hard. Broke it up and mixed it in. Drying now. View attachment 4511955View attachment 4511956View attachment 4511958

What did you use as an anti-clumping agent?

 

[SUNDOG]

@SUNDOG nice one still waiting on the recipie

Thanks dude, I already posted the recipe it at the top of this page.

 

[SUNDOG]

What did you use as an anti-clumping agent?

Didnt use anything for anti- clumping. Just LAB serum, water, molasses and wheat bran. it doesn't clump.

 

[myinvisiblecomplication]

Thanks dude, I already posted the recipe it at the top of this page.

Yes you did I even liked it thanks

 

[raggyb]

Ok SIP gurus I have a plan and the components have come together, just need some sage advice.

I picked up some pot elevators at 16" dia, 10 gal fabric pots at 16" dia and these plastic tubs with handles, it took a while to source the right sized stuff to make everything fit together and to get it to fit in my grow space.

So the idea is to fill the center with pumice to wick. The concern I need to address is looking into to see the water level as well as water quality. I can put a side tube down to bottom and use a dry stick to gauge water height.

Should I be concerned with anything else?

I'm running a soil and soiless mix about 50/50. Approx aeration is 25% pumice, 7% perlite, 17% rice hulls, 31% loam, 16% peat, rest diat earth and ewc.

i'm not a sage but my 2c is cool looking parts, however it's a little hard to see in the pics how deep your wick will be. are you seating the fabric pot inside the tub and cutting it and sewing it to the wick? you might be able to put a screen on top and forget about the fabric pot. can't tell if your reservoir is deep enough to allow for an air space + water. you might want to try one first, before you drill holes and stuff and discover you want to make changes. i like the elbow water level indicator diy discussed earlier.

 

[RevRico]

Your koolaid looks like fun. But I have some questions.I

I'm probably going to build both inntainer style and the smart pot on a res versions of a sips soon. Due to factors beyond my control, I'm not ready to move into the source yet, but my clones are ready to come out of the cloner.
It'll be about 3 weeks or so before I can get my new space up and running with sips, what should I put the clones in in the mean time?

Solo cup? 2 or 3 gallon container? They'll be moving into whatever sizes I find for the inntainer or 10 gallon smart pots in 3 to 4 weeks, I plan to flower as soon as the roots hit the res.

I'll be using FFOF and plain water the first few times to see how things work. If I can find it, the happy frog dry organic nuts in a trench, then covered with panda plastic or something.