Pandemic 2020

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Budzbuddha

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Even a group of designers modded a common snorkel mask with a unique valve that was easily duplicated on 3D model machines ... it was looked at , scrutinized and disassembled and a slight modification needed then a prototype was used in an Italian hospital which deemed it effective .... however the powers that be placed felony threats and red tape citing “ uncertified biomedical device “. This is what will kill people , the red tape .

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Jimdamick

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I just ate 3.5 grams of decent schrooms & I'm going to play this song on a loop until I get it going


and then after I get the buzz, I'm going too sit back & loop this (Ha ha ha)


Anyway, this band is the 13th Floor Elevators from 1966 (fuck the Beatles :) ) considered the 1st Acid rock band in the entire World.
I just thought I'd turn you onto them :)
They're very cool when your fucked up
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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The fast track in ventilator designs isn’t the issue. Its trump hobbling the effort. FDA is just another hurdle in a rather simple design , as a matter of fact an “ open source project “ has flooded online to have ANYONE with engineering , industrial design , 3D manufacturing to add ANY type of design for quick design and possible implementation...... from simple electro-mechanical devices that power manual resuscitation bags to full metered oxygen mixing devices .... to discount ANY companies or technical inventor effort to due what they can shouldn’t be frowned on and nit picked .... what recourse do we have ?

In combat , medics often “ improvised “ , Apollo 11 did too , maybe some of you are not aware when you broke a leg some time ago , you would splint the damn thing with a stick .......it’s not a very complicated device when one looks at the basics of its design. Even some devices use Goodyear air pumps internally . The PCB are designed for flow control and sensor alarms , something a fucking Rasberry could tackle. Some have Aur / Oxygen intermix chambers , but simple resuscitation devices could also help when staff cannot manually pump a bag. Even some citizens are 3d modeling face shields in 400 count runs . Here in Los Angeles one of the biggest Tshirt manufactures are making layered face masks for anyone in need like law enforcement, hospital staff , etc.

These stories I post shouldn’t be kicked down as frivolous attempts, if I had the skill in design , I would try to look into a solution just to help ..... because I would rather have a fighting chance than “ wait for a miracle “.

Fuck the FDA and the red tape , most of you should already know this overseer takes their sweet time on medications and products all the time. We should be thrilled that someone somewhere could provide some help , Nero obviously won’t.
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Right now they are using adaptors and putting from 2 to 4 patients on a single ventilator, so things are desperate, they might be able to quickly double or even triple the total ventilator capacity using this method.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Budzbuddha said:
Even a group of designers modded a common snorkel mask with a unique valve that was easily duplicated on 3D model machines ... it was looked at , scrutinized and disassembled and a slight modification needed then a prototype was used in an Italian hospital which deemed it effective .... however the powers that be placed felony threats and red tape citing “ uncertified biomedical device “. This is what will kill people , the red tape .

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Not all ideas are good and should at least be vetted by experts, even in an extreme emergency. We have to figure out a way to keep tens of thousands of people alive over the next few weeks, we need to do what we must as quickly as we can to prepare for the sudden onslaught. Necessity is the mother of invention, the alternative is someone slowly drowning in their own fluids. We also are going to have to be creative and innovative to help protect healthcare workers with PPE until supply chains can cope with the huge logistical challenges. These are the immediate priorities IMHO.
 
captainmorgan

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DIY-HP-LED

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captainmorgan said:
www.rawstory.com

Christian pastor who thought COVID-19 is just ‘mass hysteria’ among the first from Virginia to die from virus

One of the first deaths of a Virginian from coronavirus was a 66-year-old Christian “musical evangelist” who fell ill while on a trip to New Orleans with his wife. As the Friendly Atheist’s Bo Gardiner points out, Landon Spradlin had previously shared opinions that the pandemic was the result of...
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Magical thinking often leads to poor choices, knowledge and logic work best, there's plenty of evidence of this too. There are no bridges designed by using faith and prayer for a reason...
 
Fogdog

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Budzbuddha said:
Even a group of designers modded a common snorkel mask with a unique valve that was easily duplicated on 3D model machines ... it was looked at , scrutinized and disassembled and a slight modification needed then a prototype was used in an Italian hospital which deemed it effective .... however the powers that be placed felony threats and red tape citing “ uncertified biomedical device “. This is what will kill people , the red tape .

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Design, build, test, analyze, improve, repeat. Do this many, many times until no problems are found.

There is no alternative.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Respect knowledge and experience, they are the professionals when it comes to this, however there is vehement disagreement among them over this particular issue. Time and future studies will tell who was on the right side of history on the issue of mass produced ventilators, the pessimists or the optimists.

The people needed to operate them with minimal training will be an issue however, assuming it works.
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He was such a wet blanket. He probably voted Trump*. It was on NPR 1A today, so maddening when Dyson designed a ventilator in 10 days at his vacuum company.

This is the time to look for solution not obstical.
 
Unclebaldrick

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schuylaar said:
He was such a wet blanket. He probably voted Trump*. It was on NPR 1A today, so maddening when Dyson designed a ventilator in 10 days at his vacuum company.

This is the time to look for solution not obstical.
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schuylaar said:
He was such a wet blanket. He probably voted Trump*. It was on NPR 1A today, so maddening when Dyson designed a ventilator in 10 days at his vacuum company.

This is the time to look for solution not obstical.
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You sure are working hard to get people to forget that you support Bernie but never voted for him and also that you oppose Trump but will never vote against him.

It won't work.
 
captainmorgan

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Still lots of people here acting like it's no big deal, next door neighbor has had a steady stream of guests over in the last few days, kids included, about 20 miles outside of Detroit, can't fix stupid.

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Coronavirus spreading faster in Detroit than nearly anywhere in United States | Bridge Michigan

Detroit, which faces a host of challenges, is the ‘epicenter’ of Michigan’s coronavirus outbreak. Some attribute that to testing. Others say city residents are more susceptible. All agree the rise burdens folks who are already suffering.
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