NO defoliation appreciation thread.

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spek9

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Okay so how the spread sheet looks is more important that the data that is in it...You probably think you can judge how much thc a plant has by looking at it.
Why claim such nonsense? Of course I can't judge how much THC is in a cannabis plant by looking at it. How silly are you here? Deferring by extreme measure now.
 

GC_Mospeada

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Why claim such nonsense? Of course I can't "see" how much THC is in a cannabis plant by looking at it. How silly are you here? Deferring by extreme measure now.
Because you would do something so stupid as to attack somethings form when it is actually the function of it that matters.
 

bk78

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Okay I'll drop the act for just a moment cause guaranteed one of you will set me off.

For every grower here, I believe we do this because we love it. Everyone has there own interpretations of what growing means to them. For me, it means getting the most out of what nature gives you. We're so lucky that there is bro science, because without it...we wouldn't have the strains that we have today. It is those phenos within those strains that ultimately determine whether your bud is actually good or not. The bros gave us the seeds but it is the scientists that unlock that genetic potential. There is a lot more to growing than what you see on the surface. Thousands upon thousands of chemical reactions happening in the blink of an eye.

I don't profess to understand ALL the science behind it but I do trust the people that actually spent the time researching it in the first place. There is a lot of work involved to get a degree. A lot of hours studying, a lot of hours reading. That's fucking hard work, especially anything in the field of STEM. Which I felt inadequate for at the time so I studied education as a way to prepare myself for what the pioneers of the field are doing today. I also just loved learning. That's why I've been having a blast doing this. To see theory put into practice and seeing the results first hand. Both figuratively and literally.

Researching what the researchers are doing and replicating it. Usually it will only be a matter of time before some shit of a company buys the patent for it and makes people pay. And everyone wants to make you pay, except for nature. We should all be striving to get the most of out of our plants. We should be growing the biggest, healthiest plants we can grow. I helped someone out who was relying on one plant as their only medicine. It should never had gotten to this for this poor grower


I don't believe it's a stretch to say that it can be taken too far...the whole defol thing. But regardless of that I believe in what I'm doing, I believe in my knowledge and I believe in my ability to apply that knowledge.
Still haven’t fixed your spelling errors yet? Start back peddling professor.
 

Kassiopeija

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Yeah I use silica too...how much ppm do you go? I just went with the minimum recommendation of 100 ppm. it actually makes up just less than a third of my nutrient base.
I either make compost tea with an organic extract, but its too messy. Ive now amended the soil with a source of silica and will behold if the plant has access to it.
 

Wattzzup

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Okay so how the spread sheet looks is more important that the data that is in it...You probably think you can judge how much thc a plant has by looking at it. Actually that's a bad example...You probably think that how the plant LOOKS is actually the most important thing...because you're superficial.
So now how you’re plant looks doesn’t matter? That’s the first thing we want are pics. You’re too funny buddy. I’m glad these guys picked up... you wore me out.
 

spek9

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Because you would do something so stupid as to attack somethings form when it is actually the function of it that matters.
Dude, I already said I'm in a frustrated mood. Do you really, really want to carry on this entertaining engagement?

Let's see... I hold a long time well-deserved respect on this site and in the cannabis growing world with an exemplary track record, honest responses, known as someone who admits when they were wrong, fixing their own mistakes and *accepting criticism to better themselves* for more than a decade, and you have... a spreadsheet.

Oh, forgot to mention... I harvest 1/2-3/4lb every five weeks in my 10 week flowering perpetual. You get what... larf in your supposed 8 week.
 

GC_Mospeada

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I either make compost tea with an organic extract, but its too messy. Ive now amended the soil with a source of silica and will behold if the plant has access to it.
I use the potassium silicate...it shoots the PH up pretty high though. I looked into a silcate dioxide but I guess I'm superficial too...I didn't like it in powered form. Soil growing is something I have a lot of respect for, I haven't grown in soil so I can't claim anything. Thanks again for something I can drop the act with for just a brief moment.
 

GC_Mospeada

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Dude, I already said I'm in a frustrated mood. Do you really, really want to carry on this entertaining engagement?

Let's see... I hold a long time well-deserved respect on this site and in the cannabis growing world with an exemplary track record, honest responses, known as someone who admits when they were wrong, fixing their own mistakes and *accepting criticism to better themselves* for more than a decade, and you have... a spreadsheet.

Oh, forgot to mention... I harvest 1/2-3/4lb every five weeks in my 10 week flowering perpetual. You get what... larf in your supposed 8 week.
Well then fucking choose a subject that is science based...Like the calcium claim or the nickel claim or something that I can agree with you on because it was based on scientific consensus...not because we agreed between ourselves that it was right. I was giving you outs all over the place.

Like the 17 ESSENTIAL nutrients...That was my offering. Something that should easily be agreed upon. Maybe there are more essential elements I don't know...but at the very least you should have accepted something that was as established as that. That certain nutrients are essential at least.
 

spek9

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How did this thread come to this...... Such an LED vs HPS vibe! I love it!!!!
We come to this by thread starters ignoring the meat of the real responses to a thread.

Hang on though, we're going for a ride on this trip!
Well then fucking choose a subject that is science based...Like the calcium claim or the nickel claim or something that I can agree with you on because it was based on scientific consensus...not because we agreed between ourselves that it was right. I was giving you outs all over the place.

Like the 17 ESSENTIAL nutrients...That was my offering. Something that should easily be agreed upon. Maybe there are more essential elements I don't know...but at the very least you should have accepted something that was as established as that. That certain nutrients are essential at least.
You started this thread about defoliation. How about you put forth the science on your original topic, instead of shifting everything for the purposes of attempting to defer from your complete idiocy?

Bi-polar does do that to people though. Start a topic, two seconds later comment on the squirrel, two seconds later nickel, two seconds later paper, two seconds later...
 

GC_Mospeada

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We come to this by thread starters ignoring the meat of the real responses to a thread.

Hang on though, we're going for a ride on this trip!


You started this thread about defoliation. How about you put forth the science on your original topic, instead of shifting everything for the purposes of attempting to defer from your original idiocy?
Jesus man...I've said so many times it's all been explained. There's always more to a story yeah? How does one find out more? Have you ever had the thought...maybe it would be good to get an idea of the WHOLE picture first. That's what my mates are laughing about the most...How often I'm repeating myself.
 

GC_Mospeada

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Also haven't you heard the term...don't feed the troll? I'm the fattest fucking troll there is right now lol
 

Kassiopeija

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I use the potassium silicate...it shoots the PH up pretty high though. I looked into a silcate dioxide but I guess I'm superficial too...I didn't like it in powered form. Soil growing is something I have a lot of respect for, I haven't grown in soil so I can't claim anything. Thanks again for something I can drop the act with for just a brief moment.
Id like to get more alkaline amendments as well but not with Potash though. My Biobizz nutrient line is all acidic.
My Si extract doesnt even take much the EC up so Im surprised your product does. Whats your conversion factor to EC?

The feeding schedule seems nicely thought, you have a sort of base set of micro & stimulants, and regulate the macronutes with watersoluble salts which are most cheap. N P K Ca Mg S

Yes and its states 95ppm right there as claimed
 
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