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GC_Mospeada

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Id like to get more alkaline amendments as well but not with Potash though. My Biobizz nutrient line is all acidic.
My Si extract doesnt even take much the EC up so Im surprised your product does. Whats your conversion factor to EC?

The feeding schedule seems nicely thought, you have a sort of base set of micro & stimulants, and regulate the macronutes with watersoluble salts which are most cheap. N P K Ca Mg S

Yes and its states 95ppm right there as claimed
I honestly don't know what my conversion is. It's the consistency of the reading that mattered most and I just happened to go with that...it's the lower conversion though I think. I only confirmed the 100 ppm on this grow...I was using 1ml/L up until then...so 200ish. I still need to doubled check it more as I don't know how much of the potassium is available as food to the plant in that form, if it is at all. I'm only just recently been looking into how nutrient molecules combine. Funky stuff happens, like how the Nitrogen in calcium nitrate becomes part of the molecule and unavailable as food.

I rely on the Micro purely for the Macro nutrients. I run as little N as possible and I already substitute for the Ca. I'm currently getting my math right with the bloom but I make my own concentrate. It is actually all my PK+mg needs in one. I aim for a total NPK ratio of 4-7-10 with a 1:3 ratio of Mg to P, but I have to confirm my Mg amounts.

Made a solution up over a week ago...It's been stable since...very similar in ppm to GHE LKB but with adjust ratios.
 

Kassiopeija

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So you cant read you mean?View attachment 4523526
so I just looked and have indeed a Yucca root powder for human consumption here - it tastes bitter-rotten fungic... could I use that for adding a composting recycled soil? or a compost tea? whats it good for anyway? there should be lots of minerals, trace metals & amino acids in it?

here's the Si powder. That plant actually grows here at the street and I gonna use these next year, organic no-till attempt.

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Pechnelke - lychnis viscaria - extract is rich in brassinosteroids - this ones overdrive in all directions...
 

GC_Mospeada

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so I just looked and have indeed a Yucca root powder for human consumption here - it tastes bitter-rotten fungic... could I use that for adding a composting recycled soil? or a compost tea? whats it good for anyway? there should be lots of minerals, trace metals & amino acids in it?

here's the Si powder. That plant actually grows here at the street and I gonna use these next year, organic no-till attempt.

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Pechnelke - lychnis viscaria - extract is rich in brassinosteroids - this ones overdrive in all directions...
Uhh well for Yucca...What I know is that it's not used as a nutrients but a wetting agent. Saponins or something. it's great for hydro because minerals and organic compounds don't play well together and it's the saponins that help keep them in suspension. It's perfect for foliar, combined with kelp and fulvic would make a mean feed imo. But it's great at the root zone regardless of the medium.
 

GC_Mospeada

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I use it in the bloom concentrate I make...add a pinch to distilled water and paper filter the solids out then combine the raw minerals. The yellow tinge is from the Yucca.
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Kassiopeija

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aha ok so Im seeing youre taking precautions that your roots stay wet while I have to think about airation in soil and amend different stuff.
For maximum waterholding: Stockosorb - but no clue if it may rot ib hydro...
 

GC_Mospeada

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aha ok so Im seeing youre taking precautions that your roots stay wet while I have to think about airation in soil and amend different stuff.
For maximum waterholding: Stockosorb - but no clue if it may rot ib hydro...
Root rot isn't something I've had an issue with...especially considering the solution sits at 18c. But I've looked into to most things that would give me the biggest gains without becoming too specialised.
 

GC_Mospeada

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If I was to plug a stimulant I would choose kelp. Especially having tried foliar feeding with it on this grow. Didn't think it was a good idea to foliar feed in a tent but after two grows I was confident my plants really were mould resistant and started it up....However, like all growers mould was always a concern to me up until that point. Now it's not a concern of mine.
 

GC_Mospeada

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I use it in the bloom concentrate I make...add a pinch to distilled water and paper filter the solids out then combine the raw minerals. The yellow tinge is from the Yucca.
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I think there was about 100g of mineral salt in this. That blew me away the most...how the much dry weight food you can dissolve into liquids. 5ml doesn't look anything close to 1 tsp.
 

GC_Mospeada

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That fucing amino acids is abit pricey.
I make my own blend which is a lot cheaper. L-glycerine you can get from a nutrition store and the L-Glutamic acid is what you pay most for but use the least amount of. I went just for what the dutch went for 6 ppm of it. There is some kind of reaction between the two acids...the L-glumtic raises ppm and drops pH but as soon as the L-glycine gets added the ppm goes down drastically....which is super fascinating, I believe it is a synergistic reaction rather than a counter active.. A 2:1 ration of Glycine to Glutemic acid seems to be the best ratio I've found and whatever of that to add an extra 6 ppm to the total solution. I make up a 15 litre feed every single day and it take 1/2 tsp of glutamic and 1 tsp of glycine.
 
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GC_Mospeada

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Here's a video that demonstrates how not pH'ing downing will lock out the calcium and create limescale and gypsum. When the Glutemic gets added, it chelates and makes it available to the plant again.

Another reason I was so into aminos is that I can replace RO water with reggie tap water on my grow and actually make use of the Ca that's already in tap water...Plus less waste...RO water is disgustingly wasteful.
 

GC_Mospeada

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I'm still going to conduct the mould experiment but a less extreme version of the one I pitched...Going to take the leaves off the plant, rub the mould on them bag them and see the results. The biggest problem I face is that I don't have a control. So I'll have to make do with other types of leaves that can be susceptible to mould.
 

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Uhh well for Yucca...What I know is that it's not used as a nutrients but a wetting agent. Saponins or something. it's great for hydro because minerals and organic compounds don't play well together and it's the saponins that help keep them in suspension. It's perfect for foliar, combined with kelp and fulvic would make a mean feed imo. But it's great at the root zone regardless of the medium.
it's also good at keeping drip lines clean apparently. Harvey says it keeps nutrients in suspension or some ish, i forget. I got some on Order.

I've never seen that Amino acid video that's interesting. I've heard of the reaction, but seeing is believing as they say.

Keep in mind Yucca and Yuca are very different to anyone looking into this.
 
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jondamon

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it's also good at keeping drip lines clean apparently. Harvey says it keeps nutrients in suspension or some ish, i forget. I got some on Order.

I've never seen that Amino acid video that's interesting. I've heard of the reaction, but seeing is believing as they say.

Keep in mind Yucca and Yuca are very different to anyone looking into this.
Possibly reading about amino acids etc.

again I posted this in 2010.

 

GC_Mospeada

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I've been doing a bit of homework on RiU. This whole time I thought GSC was just some strain some company came up with. Like what 10 years ago? It's funny how I was talking about the bro science guys and it was here that the major ones were born from. How ironic. How did that even happen? Were any of you around to witness it?
 

jondamon

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I've been doing a bit of homework on RiU. This whole time I thought GSC was just some strain some company came up with. Like what 10 years ago? It's funny how I was talking about the bro science guys and it was here that the major ones were born from. How ironic. How did that even happen? Were any of you around to witness it?
GSC as in Girl Scout cookies?

sorry if I’m not familiar with what you’re talking about.

could you enlighten me if you’re not on about Girl Scout cookie please.
 
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