NO defoliation appreciation thread.

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Kassiopeija

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Well just finish the rest...then. Maybe do it all, the whole thing about plant training; so nothing is missed.
tldr so just one at a time, starting out with the first possible, the seedling now is in for a tremendous root upgrade in 2-7 days:
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it just takes a few hours to readjust the fanleaves so I do this before lights out, basically all LST or supercropping, topping... is best before lightsout.

next morning:
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Wattzzup

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tldr so just one at a time, starting out with the first possible, the seedling now is in for a tremendous root upgrade in 2-7 days:
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it just takes a few hours to readjust the fanleaves so I do this before lights out, basically all LST or supercropping, topping... is best before lightsout.

next morning:
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You’re beating up your seedling? This is madness! Child abuse! Funny though I have never seen this. Hmmmm might try this next time.
 

Kassiopeija

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You’re beating up your seedling? This is madness! Child abuse! Funny though I have never seen this. Hmmmm might try this next time.
youve got to keep the earth moist then at all times so I use a thick layer of clayballs to fend off the heat from the HIDs. spray that daily.
once the roots form out there, you'll notice later from the increased upper growth.
 

Kassiopeija

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this is the seedling now, after uppot plus LST. Inserted in a 75° angle, and bend the mainstem further sideways down.

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its all to keep it flat, flat, and internodes short. Later Ill be bending the main stem again down in the opposite direction - and have the plant in 'O' shape. On top will be many strong topcolas form which I top until the rest of the plant arrives up, then flip.

But it depends on your lights used also...

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mainstem accidentally broke. 90% through. gave first aid it took 1 day to recover, this is the second. Couldnt uphold LST do moved that plant upwards so the leaves will get more uniform light. Either I top it early or LST I need to do it soon...
 

Budget Buds

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It’s noob growers like you running around miss using terminology that cause all sorts of confusion.
Try decaf mate.

Whether the terms are correct or not his photos are all the proof needed that he is far from what I'd call a "Noob Grower".
I've been growing for the better part of 20 years and I make terminology mistakes all the time. Hell I did it last night..... But there isn't some set of exact rules that defines what a SCROG is, Only generalizations..... And if you stray away from one or two parts of the method it does NOT make it any less what it is just because more then one trellis is used .
I run a SOG system in my tent and have for years, But I dont run the 4 per sq ft like what was traditionally used. Since I only run 9 plants in my SOG does that make it any less a SOG? NO sir it does not.


His photo clearly shows a perfect screen of green grow method being utilized and whether you want to admit it or not dude is rocking it very well
This whole thread started with a big fight about the fact that defoliation and pruning are not the same thing. Just like flushing and watering with plain water are not the same thing.
Technically they are different, But the terms are used interchangeably all the time. Just like technically flushing is "leaching", See even you are now misusing terminology lol...... If you said how do I flush my plants the majority of the masses are going to know what you are talking about and my have insight... You say leaching and there mostly like WTF is leaching? Even though they are the exact same thing .... A mostly useless method for attempting to remove nutrients that are not removable from a plant in the first place... Soil growers may find a benefit from flushing built up nutrients out of the medium but it does nothing for removal of said nutrients in the plant.... I've said it for years, Flushing is for toilets lol

Until someone decides to publish a cannabis horticulture terminology rules book it's going to continue to happen with much frequency, And if someone did such a thing we would end up with tons more confusing terms about what is what. " yeah I'm growing weed right now using the 37th method of scrog " lol

Just because someone is doing things differently then the exact way that you do them does not make it less then what it is. Doggy style and Cowgirl are still fucking lmao :)
 

Thundercat

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Try decaf mate.

Whether the terms are correct or not his photos are all the proof needed that he is far from what I'd call a "Noob Grower".
I've been growing for the better part of 20 years and I make terminology mistakes all the time. Hell I did it last night..... But there isn't some set of exact rules that defines what a SCROG is, Only generalizations..... And if you stray away from one or two parts of the method it does NOT make it any less what it is just because more then one trellis is used .
I run a SOG system in my tent and have for years, But I dont run the 4 per sq ft like what was traditionally used. Since I only run 9 plants in my SOG does that make it any less a SOG? NO sir it does not.


His photo clearly shows a perfect screen of green grow method being utilized and whether you want to admit it or not dude is rocking it very well

Technically they are different, But the terms are used interchangeably all the time. Just like technically flushing is "leaching", See even you are now misusing terminology lol...... If you said how do I flush my plants the majority of the masses are going to know what you are talking about and my have insight... You say leaching and there mostly like WTF is leaching? Even though they are the exact same thing .... A mostly useless method for attempting to remove nutrients that are not removable from a plant in the first place... Soil growers may find a benefit from flushing built up nutrients out of the medium but it does nothing for removal of said nutrients in the plant.... I've said it for years, Flushing is for toilets lol

Until someone decides to publish a cannabis horticulture terminology rules book it's going to continue to happen with much frequency, And if someone did such a thing we would end up with tons more confusing terms about what is what. " yeah I'm growing weed right now using the 37th method of scrog " lol

Just because someone is doing things differently then the exact way that you do them does not make it less then what it is. Doggy style and Cowgirl are still fucking lmao :)
Dude take a deep breath and read the thread before you start mouthing off. I’ve been very nice through the whole thing and the OP IS a noob he has only harvested 1 crop. It’s nothing to be ashamed of to be new at something we all were at one point.

As far as terminology goes, the OP has expressed over and over how scientific he is and educated. If that is the case then he should want to use the correct terms to prevent miscommunication. Just because things get done all the time by others does not mean we shouldn’t strive to be better then that ourselves.
 

Budget Buds

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Dude take a deep breath and read the thread before you start mouthing off.
Mouthing off huh? Maybe he is using layman's terms to better be understood by the marginal IQ's around here. Ya know what... Yeah never mind . I'd get a better chance of conversation from a goldfish
Enjoy you're day there ditch pickle ;)
 

Thundercat

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Mouthing off huh? Maybe he is using layman's terms to better be understood by the marginal IQ's around here. Ya know what... Yeah never mind . I'd get a better chance of conversation from a goldfish
Enjoy you're day there ditch pickle ;)
I am having a great day thanks! Just smoked some delicious Zkittles and I'm about to eat a cheeseburger :). I hope yours is going great too man.
 

raggyb

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Not always , usually the ski doo fuck boys like to use the term , especially after they just got smoked on a lake run by one. I ride Arctic Cat and only call the green one's ditch pickles lol
ski doo fuck boys, i like that one too! lol
 
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