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Budget Buds

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MICHI-CAN said:
As I repeatedly state. This is my experience. I only use "REDS" the last 3 weeks of flower. Appears to mature tri's and flush leaves. I run uv from day 1 of flip.
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Interesting , It seems like I get the plants to begin flowering sooner when used for the entire flowering cycle, I've only seen good results so I never deviated from the way I was shown to do it
 
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Budget Buds said:
Interesting , It seems like I get the plants to begin flowering sooner when used for the entire flowering cycle, I've only seen good results so I never deviated from the way I was shown to do it
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If it works? Slowly test it. Don't fix what aint broke. Honest truth is get comfortable and stay content.Change when you want to.
 
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Their theory is that some UV and especially Far Red have to work in conjunction with whites to be effective . And the far red has the most (leaf) penetration. blues and whites only penetrate through 1/3 of the leaf I believe. Red was nearly full penetration washing through it.
 
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instg8ter said:
Their theory is that some UV and especially Far Red have to work in conjunction with whites to be effective . And the far red has the most (leaf) penetration. blues and whites only penetrate through 1/3 of the leaf I believe. Red was nearly full penetration washing through it.
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I honestly believe it kills the plant so to speak. 2 days and leaves lose color and tri get fat heads. Toss a toy under a China 600W full 9 spec a week before finish.
 
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Actually, If I'm to plug anything right now, I'd plug foliar feeding in veg and the first two weeks from flip. Only tried it out this grow and the results were pretty clear. I think my plants are 20cm shorter compared to last grow and the I the kelp really helped with that. The inter node lengths are way shorter and there's a truckload more branching from lateral growth. The amino thing is still a work in progress but I do know heaps of growers foliar with some kind of kelp extract. I never used to think about it growing indoors but it'll definitely be part of my normal routine in the next grows.
 
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@MICHI-CAN , You got me wondering now, I built a vero 29 X4 cob led light and the flower initiator during the same grow, I noticed with the same strain from the grow before that, that my days were shaved off peak by 4 or 5 days , I assumed it was the better vero 29 light but now i'm wondering if it had something to do with the flower initiator ? I've continued to use both ever since and am not going to change it up to figure it out now but maybe one day I'll be in the position to do a run side by side and see..... Thanks for the concept :)

ALSO when using my flower initiator , I only use it for 10 minutes after lights out , Not all night . Just a FYI
 
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GC_Mospeada said:
Actually, If I'm to plug anything right now, I'd plug foliar feeding in veg and the first two weeks from flip. Only tried it out this grow and the results were pretty clear. I think my plants are 20cm shorter compared to last grow and the I the kelp really helped with that. The inter node lengths are way shorter and there's a truckload more branching from lateral growth. The amino thing is still a work in progress but I do know heaps of growers foliar with some kind of kelp extract. I never used to think about it growing indoors but it'll definitely be part of my normal routine in the next grows.
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Foliar is medicinal after seedling or rooting.
 
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Budget Buds said:
It works, I used growmaus as a guide and built a far red flower initiator , I now use a 14/10 light schedule for flowering and noticed decent results using it, It will give you an extra 5 or 6 days of light in an 8 week flowering schedule :)
I can see that lol
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Interesting way to speed up my perpetual...hmmmm. Wow are we having a meaningful conversation,and sharing ideas without judgement..,GTFOOH!
 
MICHI-CAN

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GC_Mospeada said:
Yeah but it also breaks the apical dominance of the upper canopy so the plant grows outwards instead of upwards. I only sprayed for 3 weeks in total as I got onto it a bit late in the game.
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Wish you could show me a plant that grew towards water and not light. Not sure your my age. But this is why I trim.
 
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