Lockdowns work.

rkymtnman

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I just checked and lockdowns are still working.

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The graphic (shown above) doesn't include areas that aren't locked down.

4/18/20 Local comparison:
Oregon -- locked down; Idaho -- Ostrich strategy

Total cases per million population
Oregon: 437
Idaho: 981


total deaths per million population
Oregon: 17
Idaho: 25
must be some type of anomaly b/c from what i've heard, lockdowns don't work
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Michigan Protest. Seriously? need to go with assault rifles? That is some fucked up shit right there. I heard one of them say, “grass is legal here but you can’t mow it” .and I thought Ok was fucked up.
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A gun won't help most of these potential victims if a few pissed off infected folks show up and mingle among them, an N95 maybe, but most of these morons have beards. The threat or rumor circulated among them of a libertard plot (they like conspiracy theories) to do them in with covid-19 will take care of most of these clowns, the rest might end up infected. One infected democrat shitting on Trump in a shouting match while surrounded by and menaced by these idiots should do the job, they want civil war and someone is going to give it to them, their guns will be of no use at all. Hard to shout MAGA with a foot long plastic tube shoved down your throat...
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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A gun won't help most of these potential victims if a few pissed off infected folks show up and mingle among them, an N95 maybe, but most of these morons have beards. The threat or rumor circulated among them of a libertard plot (they like conspiracy theories) to do them in with covid-19 will take care of most of these clowns, the rest might end up infected. One infected democrat shitting on Trump in a shouting match while surrounded by and menaced by these idiots should do the job, they want civil war and someone is going to give it to them, their guns will be of no use at all. Hard to shout MAGA with a foot long plastic tube shoved down your throat...
We are going to have so much testing! Come December there will be Covid-19 test kits for sale at Walmart and they will be the hottest seller for Christmas presents. I can totally see the dirty santa Christmas party exchange gifts being all Covid 19 gifts. Test kits, masks, gloves maybe even for a higher end gift an intubation machine . 2020 has been and will continue to be a complete shit year. Wish I could fast forward right through to 2021.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We are going to have so much testing! Come December there will be Covid-19 test kits for sale at Walmart and they will be the hottest seller for Christmas presents. I can totally see the dirty santa Christmas party exchange gifts being all Covid 19 gifts. Test kits, masks, gloves maybe even for a higher end gift an intubation machine . 2020 has been and will continue to be a complete shit year. Wish I could fast forward right through to 2021.
Here is an early indicator of next year's coronavirus gift, publicly funded healthcare for Americans. I've heard this tune opposing it sung around here a lot a few months back, not so much anymore.
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Fogdog

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Michigan has drive-through testing and a small army of contact tracers. So it's much more than just a lockdown. That's the problem with politicized articles. I despise Trump and his acolytes too, but to take a John's Hopkins study and say that it's aligned with the political point against caravaners made by WaPo is just as dishonest as the shit you hate.
Oregon is in the baby steps of implementing testing and tracing procedures:


Researchers from Oregon State University are embarking on a “groundbreaking” effort to identify how widespread the coronavirus is in Corvallis, especially in those who might not have symptoms of the virus, campus officials announced this week.
The project, called “Team-based Rapid Assessment of Community-Level Coronavirus Epidemics,” or TRACE-COVID-19 for short, will get underway this weekend and run through May 16 with a goal of testing nearly 1,000 Corvallis residents, said Ben Dalziel, an assistant professor in the university’s College of Science.

“Testing nationally and locally has been focused on those with symptoms, but it’s likely that some people who carry the virus display no symptoms, and they may have been inadvertently involved in spreading the disease without having known that they had the virus,” Dalziel said in a statement.
Trained field staff will fan out across Corvallis, visiting homes that were randomly selected to provide a representative sample of the city’s population of more than 58,000. Residents will be invited to participate and, if they do, researchers will provide them with a short questionnaire and test kit which they can self-administer inside their home.


In case you are wondering, yes, I'd participate in this program if I lived in the area and were asked. When the program comes to my area, I'll participate.

So, finally, Oregon will take on the task of broad-based testing in a way that makes systematic sense. Once we get through an initial survey of Corvallis, we will know enough to expand the program into areas of the state that want similar testing. From there, policy decisions can be made that go beyond the "I want my cheeseburger" mentality. This science-based methodical approach will be used to monitor the situation as we gradually and safely lift closure orders.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Oregon is in the baby steps of implementing testing and tracing procedures:


Researchers from Oregon State University are embarking on a “groundbreaking” effort to identify how widespread the coronavirus is in Corvallis, especially in those who might not have symptoms of the virus, campus officials announced this week.
The project, called “Team-based Rapid Assessment of Community-Level Coronavirus Epidemics,” or TRACE-COVID-19 for short, will get underway this weekend and run through May 16 with a goal of testing nearly 1,000 Corvallis residents, said Ben Dalziel, an assistant professor in the university’s College of Science.

“Testing nationally and locally has been focused on those with symptoms, but it’s likely that some people who carry the virus display no symptoms, and they may have been inadvertently involved in spreading the disease without having known that they had the virus,” Dalziel said in a statement.
Trained field staff will fan out across Corvallis, visiting homes that were randomly selected to provide a representative sample of the city’s population of more than 58,000. Residents will be invited to participate and, if they do, researchers will provide them with a short questionnaire and test kit which they can self-administer inside their home.


In case you are wondering, yes, I'd participate in this program if I lived in the area and were asked. When the program comes to my area, I'll participate.

So, finally, Oregon will take on the task of broad-based testing in a way that makes systematic sense. Once we get through an initial survey of Corvallis, we will know enough to expand the program into areas of the state that want similar testing. From there, policy decisions can be made that go beyond the "I want my cheeseburger" mentality. This science-based methodical approach will be used to monitor the situation as we gradually and safely lift closure orders.
I was very surprised to hear yesterday Oregon was in the Top 3 states for least testing in the country. Oregon is such a weird state. Stuck between WA and CA but so disconnected in so many ways. Can’t say I really miss it too much. Silver falls was awesome and the coast was pretty. I will never forget the swarms of mosquitos attacking us On the most horrific backpacking trip of my life in the Deschutes National forest...We ran like 3 miles with heavy gear on trying not to get bitten. Lol. Hope you and your family are doing well Dog! Take care.
 

Fogdog

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I was very surprised to hear yesterday Oregon was in the Top 3 states for least testing in the country. Oregon is such a weird state. Stuck between WA and CA but so disconnected in so many ways. Can’t say I really miss it too much. Silver falls was awesome and the coast was pretty. I will never forget the swarms of mosquitos attacking us On the most horrific backpacking trip of my life in the Deschutes National forest...We ran like 3 miles with heavy gear on trying not to get bitten. Lol. Hope you and your family are doing well Dog! Take care.
Yep, we are a backward state compared to Washington and Cali. Skeeters are a seasonal problem in some areas. They aren't the kind that stick around after a hard frost, though, so I stay away from the high elevation lakes in the mid summer. It's a beautiful, conflicted state with an economy that is changing from resource extraction to knowledge based and we aren't handling it very well.

TBH, I'm not sure we would have done any better if we had been testing more. The strategy until now has been to confirm if a person showing symptoms is infected with the Covid-19 coronavirus. I understand the need to know but it's not all that useful. Until now, those test kits really should have gone where they ended up -- in states with serious outbreaks. We haven't had that many verified cases (1800) and are middle of the pack -- 20th in the nation overall in terms of tests per 1M people. Gov Brown ordered lockdown earlier than other states and it's done the job. To me, now is the time when I'd like to see Oregon start more testing but I'm happy to see it being expanded in a rational way.
 

Budley Doright

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Yep, we are a backward state compared to Washington and Cali. Skeeters are a seasonal problem in some areas. They aren't the kind that stick around after a hard frost, though, so I stay away from the high elevation lakes in the mid summer. It's a beautiful, conflicted state with an economy that is changing from resource extraction to knowledge based and we aren't handling it very well.

TBH, I'm not sure we would have done any better if we had been testing more. The strategy until now has been to confirm if a person showing symptoms is infected with the Covid-19 coronavirus. I understand the need to know but it's not all that useful. Until now, those test kits really should have gone where they ended up -- in states with serious outbreaks. We haven't had that many verified cases (1800) and are middle of the pack -- 20th in the nation overall in terms of tests per 1M people. Gov Brown ordered lockdown earlier than other states and it's done the job. To me, now is the time when I'd like to see Oregon start more testing but I'm happy to see it being expanded in a rational way.
I saw there was a couple of articles although I hanent read them yet but wonder if they’ll be a carrier problem. We have black flies in another few weeks then mosquitoes the size of a Cessna :(.
 

Budley Doright

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I just checked and lockdowns are still working.

View attachment 4537876

The graphic (shown above) doesn't include areas that aren't locked down.

4/18/20 Local comparison:
Oregon -- locked down; Idaho -- Ostrich strategy

Total cases per million population
Oregon: 437
Idaho: 981


total deaths per million population
Oregon: 17
Idaho: 25
You call that proof? The linear evaluation of your numbers proves you wrong 8x out of 10. You need to spend more time mathing.
 

Fogdog

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I saw there was a couple of articles although I hanent read them yet but wonder if they’ll be a carrier problem. We have black flies in another few weeks then mosquitoes the size of a Cessna :(.
Yeah, I'm not even going to mention about how bad our mosquitoes can be. We have a few months when I get a bite or two every now and then. July and August in some high mountain areas can be bad but that's about it. I have family in Alaska and in Florida. They won't stop laughing if I bring up mosquitoes.
 

Budley Doright

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Yeah, I'm not even going to mention about how bad our mosquitoes can be. We have a few months when I get a bite or two every now and then. July and August in some high mountain areas can be bad but that's about it. I have family in Alaska and in Florida. They won't stop laughing if I bring up mosquitoes.
I almost died in Alaska out on the tundra from blood loss lol. My buddy from NM got bit so bad from black flies in Ungava he started to hallucinate, he had never saw one before :(. Actually we can’t go outside here for an hour or two right at dark their so bad. Black flies are all day :(.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I almost died in Alaska out on the tundra from blood loss lol. My buddy from NM got bit so bad from black flies in Ungava he started to hallucinate, he had never saw one before :(. Actually we can’t go outside here for an hour or two right at dark their so bad. Black flies are all day :(.
Welcome to the great white north in summer! Frozen in winter and bleed dry in summer while being tormented to the edge of sanity.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Actually it’s as humid as fuck here in summer :(.
I'm a great believer in screened porches, decks are a california idea, great for desert climates, and not practical in Canada. If you wanna spend quality time outdoors after work here, then put the poarch on the east side of the house and the barbecue in it. Plastic storm windows over the screens extend the season and keep the snow out.
 

Budley Doright

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I'm a great believer in screened porches, decks are a california idea, great for desert climates, and not practical in Canada. If you wanna spend quality time outdoors after work here, then put the poarch on the east side of the house and the barbecue in it. Plastic storm windows over the screens extend the season and keep the snow out.
Yes I know, it’s my summer room ;). 97EA10E6-A2BD-4D17-9686-682362817165.jpeg
 
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