What did you accomplish today?

Tangerine_

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Sounds like something I would do. I can't believe how much $$ they want for a freakin plastic plant tray.
Its crazy how much they want for those. I found the basins that go under washing machines work just as well and are about a quarter of the cost. Another friend of mine bought 4x4 black crate liners from Tractor Supply for around the same cost. He drilled some holes and turned them into nice drain to waste tables.
 

Laughing Grass

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Yep, I'm running the big dog and 3 platinum units. The platinums are running at half power "veg" mode and only pull 250 watts each.

During my last grow I was way too reactive with nutes and there was always a problem somewhere.
This time I went with relatively hot organic soil and it has kept all the girls happy so far.

This morning I noticed that the biggest plants are starting to show N and Mg deficiencies on lower growth, so a Ca deficiency is probably on the way.
Gonna start boosting the soil with nutrient tea.
Since I just flipped em, I'll go with bat guano, insect frasss, epsom, and a little alfalfa.

Anyone else do a slow flip?
Went from 18/6 to 16/8 a week ago and this week I'm at 14/10, which should make em start flowering.
Next week I'll go to 12/12.
That's the light I really wanted when I first started but it wasn't in the budget. Some of their harvest videos are absolutely insane, like 1640 grams from 1000 watts.

I've never heard of anything other than 12/12 for flower, but I don't have a lot of experience. Is there potential for more stretching than you'd normally have at 12/12?

 

shrxhky420

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That's the light I really wanted when I first started but it wasn't in the budget. Some of their harvest videos are absolutely insane, like 1640 grams from 1000 watts.

I've never heard of anything other than 12/12 for flower, but I don't have a lot of experience. Is there potential for more stretching than you'd normally have at 12/12?

I flower under 10/14. I didn't see any weight loss when I made the switch. If there were diminished returns, I didn't notice

I also veg under 16/8.

SH420
 

Chunky Stool

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That's the light I really wanted when I first started but it wasn't in the budget. Some of their harvest videos are absolutely insane, like 1640 grams from 1000 watts.

I've never heard of anything other than 12/12 for flower, but I don't have a lot of experience. Is there potential for more stretching than you'd normally have at 12/12?

I'm hoping the gradual transition to flower will reduce stress -- and also decrease stretch since I'm going to be maxed out soon.
Lots of experiments going on this round, and it's not without risk.

Pretty sure the black dog is putting out a lot of UV-B.
Not sure why they used green LEDs. Maybe so they could call it "full spectrum"?
Platinum also includes green and orange.

Weird.
 
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Laughing Grass

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I'm hoping the gradual transition to flower will reduce stress -- and also decrease stretch since I'm going to be maxed out soon.
Lots of experiments going on this round, and it's not without risk.

Pretty sure the black dog is putting out a lot of UV-B.
Not sure why they used green LEDs. Maybe so they could call it "full spectrum"?
Platinum also includes green and orange.

Weird.
How tall are they now? That is weird, looking at your pic one page back I'd swear you're running $100 amazon lights and not a $2,000+ commercial grow light. You can't argue with the results! Is this your first grow with it?
 

Dreaming1

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That's the light I really wanted when I first started but it wasn't in the budget. Some of their harvest videos are absolutely insane, like 1640 grams from 1000 watts.

I've never heard of anything other than 12/12 for flower, but I don't have a lot of experience. Is there potential for more stretching than you'd normally have at 12/12?

On one of the Potcast episodes (maybe Nspecta? Or Ghost?) They talked about longer dark periods. 11 hrs light/13 hrs dark. And the guy being interviewed said that you can get different pheno representations that way than if you ran 12/12.
Sometimes, when I am done waiting for flower to finish, I will start increasing the dark period every few days. Going to try this during next run though and see what happens.
 

Chunky Stool

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How tall are they now? That is weird, looking at your pic one page back I'd swear you're running $100 amazon lights and not a $2,000+ commercial grow light. You can't argue with the results! Is this your first grow with it?
The biggest plants are up to my chin - and I’m 6’1.
The first pic was the black dog only. It pulls1,000w from the smart plug but the light emitted doesn’t look as intense as a couple of platinums running at full power - even tho wattage is almost identical.
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I’ll take a better pic that shows the lights in about 6 hrs.
Even though the platinum units appear brighter, during my previous run, plants leaned in towards the black dog.
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Light leaks w/smart plugs.
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Laughing Grass

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The biggest plants are up to my chin - and I’m 6’1.
The first pic was the black dog only. It pulls1,000w from the smart plug but the light emitted doesn’t look as intense as a couple of platinums running at full power - even tho wattage is almost identical.
— edit —
I’ll take a better pic that shows the lights in about 6 hrs.
Even though the platinum units appear brighter, during my previous run, plants leaned in towards the black dog.
— edit again —
Light leaks w/smart plugs.
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They're gonna be huge when they're done! Does the light from the black dog feel hotter than the platinums? I guess you can't trust your eyes in this case.
 

Laughing Grass

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On one of the Potcast episodes (maybe Nspecta? Or Ghost?) They talked about longer dark periods. 11 hrs light/13 hrs dark. And the guy being interviewed said that you can get different pheno representations that way than if you ran 12/12.
Sometimes, when I am done waiting for flower to finish, I will start increasing the dark period every few days. Going to try this during next run though and see what happens.
On my last grow I harvested on a Sunday. When the lights went out on Friday night I unplugged them until harvest on Sunday. I couldn't see any difference between the two days. ymmv

10 on, 14 off.
Veg - 16 on, 8 off.

SH420
An you don't notice any difference between that and 12/12? that's just over 18% difference and would be a pretty decent cost savings over a two month flower period.
 

Chunky Stool

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They're gonna be huge when they're done! Does the light from the black dog feel hotter than the platinums? I guess you can't trust your eyes in this case.
Not sure if one feels hotter than the other but I'll check.
They might have IR diodes but I really have no idea.

It looks like the platinum units have lenses that focus light, whereas the black dog is wide open and has much broader dispersal.
They seem to compliment each other well and this crop should be a better test than the first.
 

shrxhky420

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On my last grow I harvested on a Sunday. When the lights went out on Friday night I unplugged them until harvest on Sunday. I couldn't see any difference between the two days. ymmv



An you don't notice any difference between that and 12/12? that's just over 18% difference and would be a pretty decent cost savings over a two month flower period.
I know someone on this site that was flowering 8 on, 16 off and he was killing it. He did say at 8 hrs he noticed some diminishing returns.

SH420
 
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