Biden is screwed

[Fogdog]

Spell it out for me foggy and stop acting like a petulant child.

I can't go there. Read what you said and figure it out:

"4% indicates a black Trumper is a rare bird "

I'll spell this: I D I O T

 

[CunningCanuk]

Biden is walking back on his dumbshit comment regarding who a black person is:

ATLANTA (AP) — Joe Biden declared he “should not have been so cavalier” on Friday when he told a prominent black radio host that African Americans who back President Donald Trump “ain’t black.”

Perhaps I was wrong when I said Biden should be more visible.

It might be safer to leave him in the basement

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I can't go there. Read what you said and figure it out:

"4% indicates a black Trumper is a rare bird "

I'll spell this: I D I O T

Gee the last time I checked that was less than one in 20 blacks support Trump and that includes the crazy bastard at the rallies. Blacks for Trump are so rare they can't take a picture of one in a fucking Tee shirt, all the ones I've seen were white. Maybe you have some special insight, but in my experience black people aren't usually a homogenous group and don't fit easily into stereotypes, all except the mentally ill are against Trump and the rates of mental illness in that group ain't much different than any other.

Not an idiotic or an unreasonable assumption, but if you want to speak for all black people, go ahead. Most don't give a fuck about what Joe said and a lot probably agree with him.

 

[hanimmal]

Might as well watch it all instead of clips of a idiotic statement he made and take it all in.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Might as well watch it all instead of clips of a idiotic statement he made and take it all in.

Joe flubbed, some think its the end of the fucking world, not one black person would stay home over it or vote for Trump unless they were a fucking idiot.

 

[Fogdog]

Gee the last time I checked that was less than one in 20 blacks support Trump and that includes the crazy bastard at the rallies. Blacks for Trump are so rare they can't take a picture of one in a fucking Tee shirt, all the ones I've seen were white. Maybe you have some special insight, but in my experience black people aren't usually a homogenous group and don't fit easily into stereotypes, all except the mentally ill are against Trump and the rates of mental illness in that group ain't much different than any other.

Not an idiotic or an unreasonable assumption, but if you want to speak for all black people, go ahead. Most don't give a fuck about what Joe said and a lot probably agree with him.

"voting for Trump changes a person's skin color and how this society treats them"

That's what an idiot would say. I didn't say it. Biden did and he's walking back on that now. You, on the other hand demand an explanation.

 

[Fogdog]

Perhaps I was wrong when I said Biden should be more visible.

It might be safer to leave him in the basement

He is who he is.

I don't think it's going to surprise many black people that Biden is an old white man. He wasn't my first choice and in this regard slightly better than Bernie is. Both are leagues better than Trump.

Priorities.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

"voting for Trump changes a person's skin color and how this society treats them"

That's what an idiot would say. I didn't say it. Biden did and he's walking back on that now. You, on the other hand demand an explanation.

Like I said Joe flubbed, it was inconsequential and meaningless in the larger context. Think he will lose any black support over it? Joe has been known to fuck up his words, but overall I figure he did pretty good with the God, considering ancient history and all.

 

[UncleBuck]

If you’re still deciding who to vote for you’re not black

It’s as true as basket of deplorables or clinging to guns and bibles

What some view as gaffes are really just the truest statements spoken

 

[londonfog]

I can t see my self voting for Trump but I stll don't think Biden was the best choice for the Dems, but it is what it is. My vote will be against Trump. And please Biden just STFU sometimes

 

[hanimmal]

I can t see my self voting for Trump but I stll don't think Biden was the best choice for the Dems, but it is what it is. My vote will be against Trump. And please Biden just STFU sometimes

Agreed. But unfortunately Biden might not be the best for the Democrats, he is the one that will have more of Trumps continued attacks fall apart since they will simply rebound right onto Trump. But in 4 years we can pick the person to lead the country forward once it is out of this nightmare disinformation filled nightmare.

 

[CunningCanuk]

He is who he is.

I don't think it's going to surprise many black people that Biden is an old white man. He wasn't my first choice and in this regard slightly better than Bernie is. Both are leagues better than Trump.

Priorities.

Absolutely agree. Trump says and does much worse, every day, before he puts his pants on.

I was just taking a cheap shot for a laugh.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Agreed. But unfortunately Biden might not be the best for the Democrats, he is the one that will have more of Trumps continued attacks fall apart since they will simply rebound right onto Trump. But in 4 years we can pick the person to lead the country forward once it is out of this nightmare disinformation filled nightmare.

Joe's VP pick will be important, I hope he chooses wisely, he has a lot of talent to draw from, but he needs an heir apparent and someone to be a surrogate who the public likes. Joe will have long coattails in the congress and capture some of Trump's vote, if not his base, Joe is white as snow and that's all some of em care about. Joe will cut deep into the swing states and even south after the plague is done with them. Their GOP congressional delegations must dread having to carry Donald's water over this as their states are being screwed.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Seems older Black folks agree with a lot of older white voters!, Be practical get rid of the fucker TOP PRIORITY!
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Trymaine Lee On Biden Comments On Race: 'Comments That Could Be Problematic' | MSNBC

NBC News’ Trymaine Lee comments on Vice President Joe Biden’s remarks that “you ain’t black” if you are undecided between him and Trump. He said, “Even in jest, these are the kind of comments that could be problematic.” Aired on 5/22/2020.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Joe's VP pick will be important, I hope he chooses wisely, he has a lot of talent to draw from, but he needs an heir apparent and someone to be a surrogate who the public likes. Joe will have long coattails in the congress and capture some of Trump's vote, if not his base, Joe is white as snow and that's all some of em care about. Joe will cut deep into the swing states and even south after the plague is done with them. Their GOP congressional delegations must dread having to carry Donald's water over this as their states are being screwed.

I can’t imagine Biden capturing any of Trumps base. He’s poison to the lemmings. I would hope Biden doesn’t want anything to do with them.

When Trump’s gone most of them won’t vote at all. Some will build pipe bombs, some will spew hatred on the internet and some will just crawl back under the rock from whence they came.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I can’t imagine Biden capturing any of Trumps base. He’s poison to the lemmings. I would hope Biden doesn’t want anything to do with them.

When Trump’s gone most of them won’t vote at all. Some will build pipe bombs, some will spew hatred on the internet and some will just crawl back under the rock they come from.

Joe will get some of them even with out the pandemic, after they get fucked over by covid there will be a lot more. Not the hardcore crazies, but there are many around the edges and they do have a limit on what they will put up with. Joe will be very popular among older white voters and some will influence their kids. This battle is being fought around the kitchen tables of America and Donald is very unpopular with women. How many guys were greeted with a Clorox jug in the past couple of weeks? How many kids laughed at their Dad?

 

[CunningCanuk]

Joe will get some of them even with out the pandemic, after they get fucked over by covid there will be a lot more. Not the hardcore crazies, but there are many around the edges and they do have a limit on what they will put up with. Joe will be very popular among older white voters and some will influence their kids. This battle is being fought around the kitchen tables of America and Donald is very unpopular with women. How many guys were greeted with a Clorox jug in the past couple of weeks? How many kids laughed at their Dad?

I think we have a different understanding of what Trump’s base is.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I think we have a different understanding of what Trump’s base is.

He has a hardcore racist base of around 33% to 38%, rule of thumb is 33% of the population are complete assholes in any human society. If he's at 41% now that can be whittled down to the hardcore, considering the candidate and the circumstances, if he gets below 40% he might have trouble with some in congress from more moderate areas and swing states. Remember Trumpland is about to get fucked over bigly by covid and that might be still happening when oversight gets serious. When people are frightened for their lives and futures, they can sometimes change their minds, the current situation kinda bitch slaps many back to reality. If old people can change their minds about Donald out of fear for their lives, younger ones can too, unless completely consumed by hate and bullshit.

 

[CunningCanuk]

He has a hardcore racist base of around 33% to 38%, rule of thumb is 33% of the population are complete assholes in any human society. If he's at 41% now that can be whittled down to the hardcore, considering the candidate and the circumstances, if he gets below 40% he might have trouble with some in congress from more moderate areas and swing states. Remember Trumpland is about to get fucked over bigly by covid and that might be still happening when oversight gets serious. When people are frightened for their lives and futures, they can sometimes change their minds, the current situation kinda bitch slaps many back to reality. If old people can change their minds about Donald out of fear for their lives, younger ones can too, unless completely consumed by hate and bullshit.

Yeah, we have a different understanding. I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m right but I see Trumps base being 100% xenophobic. The little old lady in Florida who voted for him in 2016 is not his base, as I see it.

Hillary Clinton got a lot of flack for referring to them as the deplorables but that really is the nicest way to describe them.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Yeah, we have a different understanding. I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m right but I see Trumps base being 100% xenophobic. The little old lady in Florida who voted for him in 2016 is not his base, as I see it.

Hillary Clinton got a lot of flack for referring to them as the deplorables but that really is the nicest way to describe them.

They are in the final analysis like the rest of us in many ways, humans operate the same way no matter the party or race (technically there is only one race, the human one). With many people their fears overcome their grievances and issues, much like how markets work, another study in human nature. Stock markets are a balance between greed and fear, and other markets it's a balance between supply and demand. No group of humans are a monolith, it is made of individuals and they are largely governed by their own concerns, or should be. Put on enough pressure in the right places and the nut cracks. Trump used their fear to control people by appealing to their baser nature, fear will bite him back here and will turn against him. Those who use fear are destined to live under it themselves.