Why do people say ph doesnt matter

2Hearts

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Yes you get it finally, now this sites about right or wrong, weve had enough rubbish from the industry and growers and dont need pictures to explain herms humidity and how to dry.

No wonder there are so.many threads on confusion and failing - great job you guy clap clap cap






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PadawanWarrior

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Yes you get it finally, now this sites about right or wrong, weve had enough rubbish from the industry and growers and dont need pictures to explain herms humidity and how to dry.

No wonder there are so.many threads on confusion and failing - great job you guy clap clap cap






CLAP!
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Armyofsprout

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The cheap ph pens are completely fine. If someone isnt keeping the probe in storage solution, and checking the calibration at least once every few weeks, that's their fault, not the equipment.
that was the issue i was having before. The cheapo pens require calibration way too often.
 

Armyofsprout

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If you grow in soil then PH doesnt mean to much unless its way the fk out from the tap which isnt normal. (not saying someone hasnt had a tap water PH of 8 or something silly but its not normal)
I had to buy a PH probe when i moved into soil less mediums.
dude im from the city. Our tap ph is normally 8-9. Fucked my plants up completely when i wasnt phing. I thought i had every issue in the world until i started to PH again with my blue pen and then everything went back beautiful with no issues. Anyone who says you dont need to ph isnt completely right. It depends on your water source and soil can only buffer so much.
 

Armyofsprout

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What you have learned is you gotta do what works for you. Not what works in someone elses environment and thier soil.

Your situation is not the same.
True words my dude. After all the trial and error im like yeaaaaa im pretty sure I personally need to ph my water source. Just dechlorinating doesnt work for me.
 

KK26

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Grown in soil for decades and can not recall the last time I PH tested although I do recall numbers like 8 going in and 6 coming out. Makes no difference to me because I don't do it.

Start chasing numbers and you'll fuck it up.

Never had any PH problems I can recall.

Waste of time in my opinion and never have and never will. No need I've found from experience.
 

Armyofsprout

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Grown in soil for decades and can not recall the last time I PH tested although I do recall numbers like 8 going in and 6 coming out. Makes no difference to me because I don't do it.

Start chasing numbers and you'll fuck it up.

Never had any PH problems I can recall.

Waste of time in my opinion and never have and never will. No need I've found from experience.
Yeah but that depends on your water source. Ive tried not PHing my water and i always eventually get lockout. No matter if its a premixed soil or a custom soil mix.

when i personally ph my plants are healthy as can be. Thing is the ph issues really hit you when you flip to flower due to the increased need in uptake
 

Lucky Luke

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dude im from the city. Our tap ph is normally 8-9. Fucked my plants up completely when i wasnt phing. I thought i had every issue in the world until i started to PH again with my blue pen and then everything went back beautiful with no issues. Anyone who says you dont need to ph isnt completely right. It depends on your water source and soil can only buffer so much.
Dude, did you read what I wrote?
 

KK26

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Yeah but that depends on your water source. Ive tried not PHing my water and i always eventually get lockout. No matter if its a premixed soil or a custom soil mix.

when i personally ph my plants are healthy as can be. Thing is the ph issues really hit you when you flip to flower due to the increased need in uptake

Yeah I agree with all you are saying but some do find it fine not to test and grow good weed.

Yes it makes no sense according to the charts/nature/experts but it does happen.

Fuck knows how but I will never chase numbers. I go by appearance mainly and if the PH is fuck and the plant looks great I don't care about the PH.

Luck?

Don't know but each to their own I say and if you feel the need to PH in soil then it's fine.

I just don't have the need and never have. Guess I'm lucky?
 

Merlin1147

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water pH alone doesn’t tell the whole story. You also need to consider the alkalinity of the water. Not to be confused with alkaline. Alkalinity is the buffering capacity of the water or it ability to resist changes in ph. If you have high pH combined with high alkalinity, that is where you may get problems. the water over time can raise the media pH. If you have high pH with low alkalinity you generally don’t need to adjust the pH.
 

Armyofsprout

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Yeah I agree with all you are saying but some do find it fine not to test and grow good weed.

Yes it makes no sense according to the charts/nature/experts but it does happen.

Fuck knows how but I will never chase numbers. I go by appearance mainly and if the PH is fuck and the plant looks great I don't care about the PH.

Luck?

Don't know but each to their own I say and if you feel the need to PH in soil then it's fine.

I just don't have the need and never have. Guess I'm lucky?
you could say lucky in the sense that you have a solid water source i guess lol.
 

spek9

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The cheap ph pens are completely fine. If someone isnt keeping the probe in storage solution, and checking the calibration at least once every few weeks, that's their fault, not the equipment.
I just looked at my Amazon account, and found that I bought my $13 pH tester in March of 2013. I've used it ever since over hundreds of plants in perpetual grows during the years since.

I check calibration every three weeks to a month, and have not once had to adjust it. It settles at 4.1 on the 4.0 control, and 7.0 on the 7.0 control.
 

bk78

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I just looked at my Amazon account, and found that I bought my $13 pH tester in March of 2013. I've used it ever since over hundreds of plants in perpetual grows during the years since.

I check calibration every three weeks to a month, and have not once had to adjust it. It settles at 4.1 on the 4.0 control, and 7.0 on the 7.0 control.
Your amazon acct shows purchases from 2013?

cmon now spek
 

spek9

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Your amazon acct shows purchases from 2013?

cmon now spek
In fact it does. I've got no reason to make things up. Both my CA and US Amazon accounts go back that far. I signed up and made my first purchases on the site(s) early 2013.

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spek9

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figured a old lad like you wouldn’t have been able to work a computer back then :D
LOL. At that time I had moved out of my position as the Senior Network Engineer at a large Internet Provider in Toronto that I held for 10+ years, and had moved on to the global network engineer for a large online gaming company, so although I'm getting up there in age, I was definitely able to work a computer ;)
 
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