Buying a 3rd light

GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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PadawanWarrior said:
I'd get the HLG 260 for like $20 more. $315 after coupon code "RIU10". Then later you could buy another, and put the Mars in the little 1x4 space too.

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Exactly.
Use the Mars for the small veg section and buy a suitable amount of wattage for the 4x4.
 
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2feather18

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RonnieB2 said:
Thats the rig i have. Par600 and TS600. I wanted another light and noticed 2 ts600 is 3x3 veg coverage and cheaper to achieve than the more expensive models. Its easier to replace one small light than a big expensive one. If you are dead set on getting another model. I suggest anything with Samsung, and quantum boards.
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I was thinking yeah I was looking at the spider farm that's a Samsung
 
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RonnieB2

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GBAUTO said:
Minimum of 500 watts of top-tier diodes for the 4x4.
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Watts only matter for 2 things. Your power bill and socket specs. Lol. Par is what you need to look for with any light. Spyder gets great reviews but I don't know their exact par ratings. The Mars ts600 is over 900 par at 18 inches. That'll fry anything if it's too close. The par600 is 1020 par at 18 inches
 
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2feather18

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GBAUTO said:
Exactly.
Use the Mars for the small veg section and buy a suitable amount of wattage for the 4x4.
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Or I was going to put the viparspectra in the small space either or right now I got a few plants that are over nutrient and one that's under nutrient
 
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2feather18

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RonnieB2 said:
Watts only matter for 2 things. Your power bill and socket specs. Lol. Par is what you need to look for with any light. Spyder gets great reviews but I don't know their exact par ratings. The Mars ts600 is over 900 par at 18 inches. That'll fry anything if it's too close. The par600 is 1020 par at 18 inches
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Ok
 
GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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RonnieB2 said:
Watts only matter for 2 things. Your power bill and socket specs. Lol. Par is what you need to look for with any light. Spyder gets great reviews but I don't know their exact par ratings. The Mars ts600 is over 900 par at 18 inches. That'll fry anything if it's too close. The par600 is 1020 par at 18 inches
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Watts are what most folks can measure.
Having an idea of the efficacy of your fixture's leds will allow you to extrapolate the ppf value.
Spot ppfd values only illustrate how well(or not) the fixture is at dispursing the photons evenly.
 
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Doliz

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These are currently on sale, and have extra discount codes available. I picked up 5 of the PB2000 boards for $145 each.


PB1000: (20% off code:J2GPB1000MAR)
PB1500: (20% off code:J2GPB1500MAR)
PB2000: (20% off code:J2GPB2000MAR)
PB4000: (10% off code:J2GPB4000)

Can't promise all the codes work, but the PB2000 one did for me on top of their sale price. So far it's working great. A bit warm on the driver, but nice warranty through Amazon so I'm loving it for what it is so far.
 
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2feather18

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Doliz said:
These are currently on sale, and have extra discount codes available. I picked up 5 of the PB2000 boards for $145 each.


PB1000: (20% off code:J2GPB1000MAR)
PB1500: (20% off code:J2GPB1500MAR)
PB2000: (20% off code:J2GPB2000MAR)
PB4000: (10% off code:J2GPB4000)

Can't promise all the codes work, but the PB2000 one did for me on top of their sale price. So far it's working great. A bit warm on the driver, but nice warranty through Amazon so I'm loving it for what it is so far.
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Cool thank u
 
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RonnieB2

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GBAUTO said:
Watts are what most folks can measure.
Having an idea of the efficacy of your fixture's leds will allow you to extrapolate the ppf value.
Spot ppfd values only illustrate how well(or not) the fixture is at dispursing the photons evenly.
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My point is/was that light isn't ever measured in watts,. Thats why you see these LEDs and CFL bulbs stating its the equivalent to a 60 watt bulb. Meaning the average 60w bulb is 800-850 lumen. Now days wattage is just an efficiency rating. A 25w cfl produces the same lumens as the 60w. Youre getting the same amount of light, just at a more efficient wattage..The two most important things for me personally when looking for a light is the Par and Kelvin rating.
 
GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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That would be great if all manufacturers stated output in umoles, but the majority don't.
Using the actual power draw as a metric is the easiest way to compare different fixtures.
After a bit of research, you'll discover the relation between watts in and photons out.
Then you can use a simple metric to see if that fixture will generate sufficient ppf for the area you're trying to light.
That's why you will read suggestions like 50 watts/ sq ft for HID and blurple leds.
Top-tier diodes only need approx. 30 watts/ sq ft to achieve the same ppfd
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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2feather18 said:
I'm probably going to throw the blurple in the 1×4 feet and then use the TSMars hydro and the spider farm for my 4 × 4 section
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You said you were going to veg and flower in the 4x4 section.
You are seriously under lit for flowering with what you currently have.

The mars ts600 will flower a 1.5x1.5ft.
There are various versions of the vipar spectra 600 with different wattages so not sure which one you have.
However even at best case your short on light by 50%

Using the sf 2000 as an example you would need two of those for the 4x4 in flower.

The 1x4 is an awkward space to light, not really any great pre made options of good led for that but if your only going to be starting seeds or rooting clones then a couple of t5/t8 fluorescents would fit nice.
 
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