Need suggestions for AC/Temp control

[Kalebaiden]

I've been looking at air conditioners and I'm getting confused.

My grow tent is 2'x4'x5' and the space it's in is a 10'x10' room with one tiny window.

The room has very little air flow naturally and even with exhausting the hot air outside, the daytime summer temps in the tent are 30°C.

I clearly need some sort of cooling device but I can't justify spending $300 on an AC unit that will cool a room 3 times the size.

Does anyone have suggestions on a reasonable ac unit/cooling device that would fit my needs?

 

[The8thChevron]

I agree, the cooling cost is too much. What I would do is get a small humidifier if your RH is low. Raising the RH will help cool a bit. Then, I would rig up a simple swamp cooler with a bucket, fan, and absorbent rag. This might get you down to a good 27°C, which is acceptable for most strains. Then just grow a strain that likes the extra heat like Sour D.

 

[lime73]

Have you tried running lights at night?

 

[Kalebaiden]

Have you tried running lights at night?

That is running lights at night.

 

[jonnynobody]

I've been looking at air conditioners and I'm getting confused.

My grow tent is 2'x4'x5' and the space it's in is a 10'x10' room with one tiny window.

The room has very little air flow naturally and even with exhausting the hot air outside, the daytime summer temps in the tent are 30°C.

I clearly need some sort of cooling device but I can't justify spending $300 on an AC unit that will cool a room 3 times the size.

Does anyone have suggestions on a reasonable ac unit/cooling device that would fit my needs?

Jesus fuck where do I start here?

I've been looking at air conditioners and I'm getting confused.

My grow tent is 2'x4'x5' and the space it's in is a 10'x10' room with one tiny window.

The room has very little air flow naturally and even with exhausting the hot air outside, the daytime summer temps in the tent are 30°C.

I clearly need some sort of cooling device but I can't justify spending $300 on an AC unit that will cool a room 3 times the size.

Does anyone have suggestions on a reasonable ac unit/cooling device that would fit my needs?

I will give you a nickel's worth of free advice here that will increase your production, solve your heat issues, and do it affordably with quality equipment backed by a better manufacturer's warranty than the cloud line fans. Let's do this. Cloud line fans are warrantied for 2 years. They warranty them for 2 years, because that is their expected life. They have a relatively high failure rate, and they are attempting to do too many things with the product at too low of a cost to engineer it to last. Solution? Get an inline fan from a manufacturer that has a better warranty. Get an inline fan that is only moving air. No environmental controllers or other cheap bells and whistles that do not contribute to moving the air.

Recommended inline fans:

#1) Vortex 6" Power Fan manufactured in Canada $114.99 backed by a 10 year warranty. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. I have one in service cooling two 1000 watt HPS lamps that runs quiet and moves a lot of air. No issues in service for over 3 years. Great fan highly recommended.

#2) Soler and Palau TD-150 $122.99 with free shipping backed by a 7 year warranty. I'm unaware of the country of manufacture. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. They are built to last. I have a td-125 I use for my veg tent that is 12 years old and still running like the day I first fired it up. Clean every 6 months. I also have a TD-150 that will be installed on a new tent I'm setting up next month for mother plants. You have to hookup your own power cord and wire clamp to these which requires about 5 minutes time to do the job and another 5 minutes of your time to watch the youtube video on how to install the wire. Fantastic inline fan for the money. These are the quietest fans on the market. Can fan takes a close second for quiet operation.

#3) Can-Fan Max-Fan Manufactured in Germany $174.99 with free shipping backed with a 5 year warranty. Can-Fan is the industry leader in filtration and inline fan technology. This unit comes with an integrated 3 speed fan controller. I have had one in service for over 8 years without issue. They are pricey, because they are specifically marketed to the cannabis industry. Everything marketed to the cannabis industry is more expensive than it actually should be. They're great fans, but I would never pay $174.99 for an inline fan that's worth $135 at most. Speed controllers are $10 on amazon. You could buy a Vortex 6" Power Fan for $114.99 and a $10 speed controller for a total investment of $125, and you have a fan with a better warranty for $50 cheaper. It's your money though. Spend it as you see fit. I got my max fan used for thirty or forty bucks from another grower a long time ago.

For fuck's sake do not buy one of those shitty cloud line fans. You will never see one of those crummy devices in a professional grow room. Pro's cannot afford equipment failures. We use quality gear with low failure rates backed by lengthy extended warranties, so if something does go wrong it's replaced at no cost to us. And do yourself another favor. Order this tent from Amazon for $149.99 which is 5'x5'x 6' 8". I have 2 for vegging babies. You're killing yourself in that tiny little cracker box you're in. You can veg and flower with ease in the tent I am suggesting, and for a very reasonable price. Buy a bigger tent, specifically the one I mentioned, and a quality inline fan from the 3 above. You'll be on your way to happy growing without equipment failures and heat issues. One last thing, word to your mother!

 

[lime73]

Then you need better exhaust/ intake setup.
What light you using? So Temps are high just at lights off?

 

[JoeBlow5823]

https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-150-sq-ft-Window-Air-Conditioner-115-Volt-5000-BTU/1001307542

 

[Kalebaiden]

Jesus fuck where do I start here?

I will give you a nickel's worth of free advice here that will increase your production, solve your heat issues, and do it affordably with quality equipment backed by a better manufacturer's warranty than the cloud line fans. Let's do this. Cloud line fans are warrantied for 2 years. They warranty them for 2 years, because that is their expected life. They have a relatively high failure rate, and they are attempting to do too many things with the product at too low of a cost to engineer it to last. Solution? Get an inline fan from a manufacturer that has a better warranty. Get an inline fan that is only moving air. No environmental controllers or other cheap bells and whistles that do not contribute to moving the air.

Recommended inline fans:

#1) Vortex 6" Power Fan manufactured in Canada $114.99 backed by a 10 year warranty. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. I have one in service cooling two 1000 watt HPS lamps that runs quiet and moves a lot of air. No issues in service for over 3 years. Great fan highly recommended.

#2) Soler and Palau TD-150 $122.99 with free shipping backed by a 7 year warranty. I'm unaware of the country of manufacture. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. They are built to last. I have a td-125 I use for my veg tent that is 12 years old and still running like the day I first fired it up. Clean every 6 months. I also have a TD-150 that will be installed on a new tent I'm setting up next month for mother plants. You have to hookup your own power cord and wire clamp to these which requires about 5 minutes time to do the job and another 5 minutes of your time to watch the youtube video on how to install the wire. Fantastic inline fan for the money. These are the quietest fans on the market. Can fan takes a close second for quiet operation.

#3) Can-Fan Max-Fan Manufactured in Germany $174.99 with free shipping backed with a 5 year warranty. Can-Fan is the industry leader in filtration and inline fan technology. This unit comes with an integrated 3 speed fan controller. I have had one in service for over 8 years without issue. They are pricey, because they are specifically marketed to the cannabis industry. Everything marketed to the cannabis industry is more expensive than it actually should be. They're great fans, but I would never pay $174.99 for an inline fan that's worth $135 at most. Speed controllers are $10 on amazon. You could buy a Vortex 6" Power Fan for $114.99 and a $10 speed controller for a total investment of $125, and you have a fan with a better warranty for $50 cheaper. It's your money though. Spend it as you see fit. I got my max fan used for thirty or forty bucks from another grower a long time ago.

For fuck's sake do not buy one of those shitty cloud line fans. You will never see one of those crummy devices in a professional grow room. Pro's cannot afford equipment failures. We use quality gear with low failure rates backed by lengthy extended warranties, so if something does go wrong it's replaced at no cost to us. And do yourself another favor. Order this tent from Amazon for $149.99 which is 5'x5'x 6' 8". I have 2 for vegging babies. You're killing yourself in that tiny little cracker box you're in. You can veg and flower with ease in the tent I am suggesting, and for a very reasonable price. Buy a bigger tent, specifically the one I mentioned, and a quality inline fan from the 3 above. You'll be on your way to happy growing without equipment failures and heat issues. One last thing, word to your mother!

I've already got an inline fan for active intake (see picture)


I've also got a 6" Vivosun clip on oscillating fan currently used as active exhaust.

The inside of the tent is the same temperature as the room. Right now, it's just past the hottest part of the day and the temp in the room is 33°C and the temp in the tent is 33°C.

I don't have the space for a larger tent, the porch holding the tent also has a deep freezer, a desk and a dryer (dryer is broken and unused but was moved in place before the last wall was built, the deep freeze was also installed before the last wall was built).

Moving the air isn't my issue, larger tents won't solve the issue, cooling the air is the issue.

I need more suggestions like this one;

"I agree, the cooling cost is too much. What I would do is get a small humidifier if your RH is low. Raising the RH will help cool a bit. Then, I would rig up a simple swamp cooler with a bucket, fan, and absorbent rag. This might get you down to a good 27°C, which is acceptable for most strains. Then just grow a strain that likes the extra heat like Sour D."

 

[PeaceGrow]

I suggest running at night and stepping up for exhaust fan and maybe larger /more fans. Good luck!

 

[The8thChevron]

I've already got an inline fan for active intake (see picture)
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I've also got a 6" Vivosun clip on oscillating fan currently used as active exhaust.

The inside of the tent is the same temperature as the room. Right now, it's just past the hottest part of the day and the temp in the room is 33°C and the temp in the tent is 33°C.

I don't have the space for a larger tent, the porch holding the tent also has a deep freezer, a desk and a dryer (dryer is broken and unused but was moved in place before the last wall was built, the deep freeze was also installed before the last wall was built).

Moving the air isn't my issue, larger tents won't solve the issue, cooling the air is the issue.

I need more suggestions like this one;

"I agree, the cooling cost is too much. What I would do is get a small humidifier if your RH is low. Raising the RH will help cool a bit. Then, I would rig up a simple swamp cooler with a bucket, fan, and absorbent rag. This might get you down to a good 27°C, which is acceptable for most strains. Then just grow a strain that likes the extra heat like Sour D."

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Yea, you made it pretty clear you're running an inline fan already. Not sure where they got confused.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

get a small ac.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-150-sq-ft-Window-Air-Conditioner-115-Volt-5000-BTU/1001307542

 

[JoeBlow5823]

Jesus fuck where do I start here?

I will give you a nickel's worth of free advice here that will increase your production, solve your heat issues, and do it affordably with quality equipment backed by a better manufacturer's warranty than the cloud line fans. Let's do this. Cloud line fans are warrantied for 2 years. They warranty them for 2 years, because that is their expected life. They have a relatively high failure rate, and they are attempting to do too many things with the product at too low of a cost to engineer it to last. Solution? Get an inline fan from a manufacturer that has a better warranty. Get an inline fan that is only moving air. No environmental controllers or other cheap bells and whistles that do not contribute to moving the air.

Recommended inline fans:

#1) Vortex 6" Power Fan manufactured in Canada $114.99 backed by a 10 year warranty. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. I have one in service cooling two 1000 watt HPS lamps that runs quiet and moves a lot of air. No issues in service for over 3 years. Great fan highly recommended.

#2) Soler and Palau TD-150 $122.99 with free shipping backed by a 7 year warranty. I'm unaware of the country of manufacture. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. They are built to last. I have a td-125 I use for my veg tent that is 12 years old and still running like the day I first fired it up. Clean every 6 months. I also have a TD-150 that will be installed on a new tent I'm setting up next month for mother plants. You have to hookup your own power cord and wire clamp to these which requires about 5 minutes time to do the job and another 5 minutes of your time to watch the youtube video on how to install the wire. Fantastic inline fan for the money. These are the quietest fans on the market. Can fan takes a close second for quiet operation.

#3) Can-Fan Max-Fan Manufactured in Germany $174.99 with free shipping backed with a 5 year warranty. Can-Fan is the industry leader in filtration and inline fan technology. This unit comes with an integrated 3 speed fan controller. I have had one in service for over 8 years without issue. They are pricey, because they are specifically marketed to the cannabis industry. Everything marketed to the cannabis industry is more expensive than it actually should be. They're great fans, but I would never pay $174.99 for an inline fan that's worth $135 at most. Speed controllers are $10 on amazon. You could buy a Vortex 6" Power Fan for $114.99 and a $10 speed controller for a total investment of $125, and you have a fan with a better warranty for $50 cheaper. It's your money though. Spend it as you see fit. I got my max fan used for thirty or forty bucks from another grower a long time ago.

For fuck's sake do not buy one of those shitty cloud line fans. You will never see one of those crummy devices in a professional grow room. Pro's cannot afford equipment failures. We use quality gear with low failure rates backed by lengthy extended warranties, so if something does go wrong it's replaced at no cost to us. And do yourself another favor. Order this tent from Amazon for $149.99 which is 5'x5'x 6' 8". I have 2 for vegging babies. You're killing yourself in that tiny little cracker box you're in. You can veg and flower with ease in the tent I am suggesting, and for a very reasonable price. Buy a bigger tent, specifically the one I mentioned, and a quality inline fan from the 3 above. You'll be on your way to happy growing without equipment failures and heat issues. One last thing, word to your mother!

I just bought a 60$ Inkbird 1800w temperature controller. Light stays on until room hits 87 degrees. Simple. 2 Sensors so only need the one controller for my 1000w and 315w lights. One 60$ controller to monitor all my cheap fans. Even the highest quality products fail sooner or later.

 

[jonnynobody]

I've already got an inline fan for active intake (see picture)
View attachment 4608483

I've also got a 6" Vivosun clip on oscillating fan currently used as active exhaust.

The inside of the tent is the same temperature as the room. Right now, it's just past the hottest part of the day and the temp in the room is 33°C and the temp in the tent is 33°C.

I don't have the space for a larger tent, the porch holding the tent also has a deep freezer, a desk and a dryer (dryer is broken and unused but was moved in place before the last wall was built, the deep freeze was also installed before the last wall was built).

Moving the air isn't my issue, larger tents won't solve the issue, cooling the air is the issue.

I need more suggestions like this one;

"I agree, the cooling cost is too much. What I would do is get a small humidifier if your RH is low. Raising the RH will help cool a bit. Then, I would rig up a simple swamp cooler with a bucket, fan, and absorbent rag. This might get you down to a good 27°C, which is acceptable for most strains. Then just grow a strain that likes the extra heat like Sour D."

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That's check mate homie. Portable A/C or shut down your grow during the summer months. I just added a portable A/C to my grow room at the beginning of this summer so I could continue my perpetual grow. Without it I would be in the same boat as you. You could also consider a mini split a/c unit. Much more costly. I got my GE 10,000 BTU portable A/C with a 6 year extended warranty for $380 shipped to my front door. Works great. 6" hole saw and arbor at home depot for $50 and a $20 6" duct kit. I had to use a 6" connector to bridge the exhaust tubing from the portable unit's proprietary 5 1/2" plastic exhaust tubing to the flexible tubing exhausting outside. Used home depot's crimper's in the store aisle to crimp the ends. Done. I misunderstood your problem.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

That's check mate homie. Portable A/C or shut down your grow during the summer months. I just added a portable A/C to my grow room at the beginning of this summer so I could continue my perpetual grow. Without it I would be in the same boat as you. You could also consider a mini split a/c unit. Much more costly. I got my GE 10,000 BTU portable A/C with a 6 year extended warranty for $380 shipped to my front door. Works great. 6" hole saw and arbor at home depot for $50 and a $20 6" duct kit. I had to use a 6" connector to bridge the exhaust tubing from the portable unit's proprietary 5 1/2" plastic exhaust tubing to the flexible tubing exhausting outside. Used home depot's crimper's in the store aisle to crimp the ends. Done. I misunderstood your problem.

Sounds like a 170$ window unit would do him just fine.

 

[The8thChevron]

I think everyone is missing the point that hes trying to do this on the cheap.

He has a small tent. He could fill up bottles and freeze them and leave them all around the tent. It would take a lot of bottles and he would have to repeat the process everyday, but it could bring the temp down enough for suitable growing temps.

Maybe switch to a cooler light. If you're using HIDs, switching to LEDs would solve your problem. Or even dimming LEDs if you're already using them. This will effect yields and quality, but it's a better alternative to nothing.

Or possibly run an intake duct into a cooler room if theres one close by.

Grow AMG or Amnesia Haze, they are good for warmer grows.

An AC would solve your problems, yes, but you would pay at least $150 and the added electricity costs of course.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

I think everyone is missing the point that hes trying to do this on the cheap.

He has a small tent. He could fill up bottles and freeze them and leave them all around the tent. It would take a lot of bottles and he would have to repeat the process everyday, but it could bring the temp down enough for suitable growing temps.

Maybe switch to a cooler light. If you're using HIDs, switching to LEDs would solve your problem. Or even dimming LEDs if you're already using them. This will effect yields and quality, but it's a better alternative to nothing.

Or possibly run an intake duct into a cooler room if theres one close by.

Grow AMG or Amnesia Haze, they are good for warmer grows.

An AC would solve your problems, yes, but you would pay at least $150 and the added electricity costs of course.

He was talking 300$ is to much.... 150$ isnt that unrealistic.... maybe find a used one for 80?

 

[The8thChevron]

He was talking 300$ is to much.... 150$ isnt that unrealistic.... maybe find a used one for 80?

I just thought we could be more creative than, "buy an AC".

 

[Cookie Rider]

Is the tent in the shade?
Am I understanding this correctly, the tent is out on the deck?

 

[Cookie Rider]

Well if you just go with the higher temps, up the humidity as well and keep the air moving as you get later in flower. Freezing pop bottles will help in front of the fan. And I believe adding kelp or seaweed is good for higher temps.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

I just thought we could be more creative than, "buy an AC".

really only one way to actually cool the air in a good way. The compressors found in a chest freezer are the same as those found in a refrigerator are the same as those found in a air conditioner. Theres only one good way to cool a room down. Swamp coolers blasting a bunch of humidity into the air is asking for mold. Doesnt matter how creative we get on this weed growing forum, theres no better answer than AC.