Need suggestions for AC/Temp control

TintEastwood

TintEastwood

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Just another crazy idea..

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Partition it.
A room in a room.
6k wall shaker AC.
Fan still required for venting at proper times.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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I've settled on a 5000 BTU AC unit. It doesn't fit in the window so I'll have to jury rig something. The cost will be $169.99 plus $40.99 for the temperature sensor plug.

Not the most cost effective solution but it's a real AC unit instead of an evaporator unit which would increase issues.
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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Kalebaiden said:
I've settled on a 5000 BTU AC unit. It doesn't fit in the window so I'll have to jury rig something. The cost will be $169.99 plus $40.99 for the temperature sensor plug.

Not the most cost effective solution but it's a real AC unit instead of an evaporator unit which would increase issues.
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Why do you need a temperature sensor plug? Ac units have temp control built in. If it doesnt fit in the window, get an in room ac.
 
9BestBudz0

9BestBudz0

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Kalebaiden said:
I've been looking at air conditioners and I'm getting confused.

My grow tent is 2'x4'x5' and the space it's in is a 10'x10' room with one tiny window.

The room has very little air flow naturally and even with exhausting the hot air outside, the daytime summer temps in the tent are 30°C.

I clearly need some sort of cooling device but I can't justify spending $300 on an AC unit that will cool a room 3 times the size.

Does anyone have suggestions on a reasonable ac unit/cooling device that would fit my needs?
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This is what I have noticed with my grow tents I currently have it in a closet that’s close with mirror doors and I also have a fan in the bedroom where it’s at when I turn on the fan but humidity goes up in my tent which throws everything off but if I leave my fan off in the door close the temperature stays just right and humidity
 
9BestBudz0

9BestBudz0

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jonnynobody said:
Jesus fuck where do I start here?

I will give you a nickel's worth of free advice here that will increase your production, solve your heat issues, and do it affordably with quality equipment backed by a better manufacturer's warranty than the cloud line fans. Let's do this. Cloud line fans are warrantied for 2 years. They warranty them for 2 years, because that is their expected life. They have a relatively high failure rate, and they are attempting to do too many things with the product at too low of a cost to engineer it to last. Solution? Get an inline fan from a manufacturer that has a better warranty. Get an inline fan that is only moving air. No environmental controllers or other cheap bells and whistles that do not contribute to moving the air.

Recommended inline fans:

#1) Vortex 6" Power Fan manufactured in Canada $114.99 backed by a 10 year warranty. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. I have one in service cooling two 1000 watt HPS lamps that runs quiet and moves a lot of air. No issues in service for over 3 years. Great fan highly recommended.

#2) Soler and Palau TD-150 $122.99 with free shipping backed by a 7 year warranty. I'm unaware of the country of manufacture. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. They are built to last. I have a td-125 I use for my veg tent that is 12 years old and still running like the day I first fired it up. Clean every 6 months. I also have a TD-150 that will be installed on a new tent I'm setting up next month for mother plants. You have to hookup your own power cord and wire clamp to these which requires about 5 minutes time to do the job and another 5 minutes of your time to watch the youtube video on how to install the wire. Fantastic inline fan for the money. These are the quietest fans on the market. Can fan takes a close second for quiet operation.

#3) Can-Fan Max-Fan Manufactured in Germany $174.99 with free shipping backed with a 5 year warranty. Can-Fan is the industry leader in filtration and inline fan technology. This unit comes with an integrated 3 speed fan controller. I have had one in service for over 8 years without issue. They are pricey, because they are specifically marketed to the cannabis industry. Everything marketed to the cannabis industry is more expensive than it actually should be. They're great fans, but I would never pay $174.99 for an inline fan that's worth $135 at most. Speed controllers are $10 on amazon. You could buy a Vortex 6" Power Fan for $114.99 and a $10 speed controller for a total investment of $125, and you have a fan with a better warranty for $50 cheaper. It's your money though. Spend it as you see fit. I got my max fan used for thirty or forty bucks from another grower a long time ago.

For fuck's sake do not buy one of those shitty cloud line fans. You will never see one of those crummy devices in a professional grow room. Pro's cannot afford equipment failures. We use quality gear with low failure rates backed by lengthy extended warranties, so if something does go wrong it's replaced at no cost to us. And do yourself another favor. Order this tent from Amazon for $149.99 which is 5'x5'x 6' 8". I have 2 for vegging babies. You're killing yourself in that tiny little cracker box you're in. You can veg and flower with ease in the tent I am suggesting, and for a very reasonable price. Buy a bigger tent, specifically the one I mentioned, and a quality inline fan from the 3 above. You'll be on your way to happy growing without equipment failures and heat issues. One last thing, word to your mother!
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Thanks man.
 
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jonnynobody

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Kalebaiden said:
I've settled on a 5000 BTU AC unit. It doesn't fit in the window so I'll have to jury rig something. The cost will be $169.99 plus $40.99 for the temperature sensor plug.

Not the most cost effective solution but it's a real AC unit instead of an evaporator unit which would increase issues.
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I really screwed the pooch on providing good suggestions for you. A $300+ portable unit isn't cost effective in the least. Sometimes I get tunnel vision and assume everyone's grow room scenario is the same as my own. I should have paid closer attention to the information you provided. My flower room is in a basement room where a window unit is not an option at all, so portable was my only solution. JoeBlow was right on point with his recommendation. The window unit you got will serve you well long term. Great to hear you beat the heat man. And for a reasonable price too.
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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jonnynobody said:
I really screwed the pooch on providing good suggestions for you. A $300+ portable unit isn't cost effective in the least. Sometimes I get tunnel vision and assume everyone's grow room scenario is the same as my own. I should have paid closer attention to the information you provided. My flower room is in a basement room where a window unit is not an option at all, so portable was my only solution. JoeBlow was right on point with his recommendation. The window unit you got will serve you well long term. Great to hear you beat the heat man. And for a reasonable price too.
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Yea its a sad reality. True environmental control takes equipment to make it happen.
 
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SoN3at

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jonnynobody said:
That's check mate homie. Portable A/C or shut down your grow during the summer months. I just added a portable A/C to my grow room at the beginning of this summer so I could continue my perpetual grow. Without it I would be in the same boat as you. You could also consider a mini split a/c unit. Much more costly. I got my GE 10,000 BTU portable A/C with a 6 year extended warranty for $380 shipped to my front door. Works great. 6" hole saw and arbor at home depot for $50 and a $20 6" duct kit. I had to use a 6" connector to bridge the exhaust tubing from the portable unit's proprietary 5 1/2" plastic exhaust tubing to the flexible tubing exhausting outside. Used home depot's crimper's in the store aisle to crimp the ends. Done. I misunderstood your problem.
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Do you have your unit inside your tent?

I have a GE as well and I am trying to figure out how I can run it outside the tent and vent the air into the tent...
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Thanks to Covid and the recent heatwave, I couldn't get the AC unit I wanted. Instead, I had to pick up an 8000 BTU unit for $300.

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The unit is installed. I turned a window unit into a wall unit, complete with new hole in the wall and new framing.

Unfortunately, I still need 2 power outlets on new breakers to handle everything I want to run safetly.

Those get installed in the morning.

By the end of the day, I'm hoping that I'll be able to put my plants in the tent without worry.
 
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jonnynobody

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SoN3at said:
Do you have your unit inside your tent?

I have a GE as well and I am trying to figure out how I can run it outside the tent and vent the air into the tent...
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No. My portable A/C was in my flower room. I had to cut a 6" hole in the side of my house and install a vent louver to dump the hot air. You can definitely place the unit inside of a tent space permitting. You will just have to run the exhaust hose to the exterior of your home in some fashion. Makita plug in power drill and a 6" dozer hole saw will get it done. Use silicone to seal the hole. I tired that spray foam shit on a new hole I had to cut a few days back underneath of the louver, and the shit expanded into the flaps of the louver. I literally had to remove each louver blade and dig the hardened foam out with a small flat head. Not fun. As a side note that was the nastiest shit I have ever worked with in my life. Once it hardens nothing but mechanical removal will get it off. I mean nothing. I know this because I got some on both knees, my forehead, and both hands. Good times sirs (and ladies).
 
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jonnynobody

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SoN3at said:
Do you have your unit inside your tent?

I have a GE as well and I am trying to figure out how I can run it outside the tent and vent the air into the tent...
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Can't really be done effectively in that manner. If you can't put the portable unit inside of the tent you have options. Either buy a larger tent or run your intake air hose for the tent directly over the cold air output of the a/c unit. The negative pressure draw from the intake would suck most of the cold air into the tent thereby cooling the tent. Perhaps just cool the entire room the tent is in. Lots of ways to skin that cat (horrible saying. I love cats). It really just depends how you want to approach it.
 
Kindbuds303

Kindbuds303

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jonnynobody said:
Jesus fuck where do I start here?

I will give you a nickel's worth of free advice here that will increase your production, solve your heat issues, and do it affordably with quality equipment backed by a better manufacturer's warranty than the cloud line fans. Let's do this. Cloud line fans are warrantied for 2 years. They warranty them for 2 years, because that is their expected life. They have a relatively high failure rate, and they are attempting to do too many things with the product at too low of a cost to engineer it to last. Solution? Get an inline fan from a manufacturer that has a better warranty. Get an inline fan that is only moving air. No environmental controllers or other cheap bells and whistles that do not contribute to moving the air.

Recommended inline fans:

#1) Vortex 6" Power Fan manufactured in Canada $114.99 backed by a 10 year warranty. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. I have one in service cooling two 1000 watt HPS lamps that runs quiet and moves a lot of air. No issues in service for over 3 years. Great fan highly recommended.

#2) Soler and Palau TD-150 $122.99 with free shipping backed by a 7 year warranty. I'm unaware of the country of manufacture. These are what professionals use in the HVAC industry. They are built to last. I have a td-125 I use for my veg tent that is 12 years old and still running like the day I first fired it up. Clean every 6 months. I also have a TD-150 that will be installed on a new tent I'm setting up next month for mother plants. You have to hookup your own power cord and wire clamp to these which requires about 5 minutes time to do the job and another 5 minutes of your time to watch the youtube video on how to install the wire. Fantastic inline fan for the money. These are the quietest fans on the market. Can fan takes a close second for quiet operation.

#3) Can-Fan Max-Fan Manufactured in Germany $174.99 with free shipping backed with a 5 year warranty. Can-Fan is the industry leader in filtration and inline fan technology. This unit comes with an integrated 3 speed fan controller. I have had one in service for over 8 years without issue. They are pricey, because they are specifically marketed to the cannabis industry. Everything marketed to the cannabis industry is more expensive than it actually should be. They're great fans, but I would never pay $174.99 for an inline fan that's worth $135 at most. Speed controllers are $10 on amazon. You could buy a Vortex 6" Power Fan for $114.99 and a $10 speed controller for a total investment of $125, and you have a fan with a better warranty for $50 cheaper. It's your money though. Spend it as you see fit. I got my max fan used for thirty or forty bucks from another grower a long time ago.

For fuck's sake do not buy one of those shitty cloud line fans. You will never see one of those crummy devices in a professional grow room. Pro's cannot afford equipment failures. We use quality gear with low failure rates backed by lengthy extended warranties, so if something does go wrong it's replaced at no cost to us. And do yourself another favor. Order this tent from Amazon for $149.99 which is 5'x5'x 6' 8". I have 2 for vegging babies. You're killing yourself in that tiny little cracker box you're in. You can veg and flower with ease in the tent I am suggesting, and for a very reasonable price. Buy a bigger tent, specifically the one I mentioned, and a quality inline fan from the 3 above. You'll be on your way to happy growing without equipment failures and heat issues. One last thing, word to your mother!
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Are u talking about the ac infinity Dana’s that have temp and humidity and are super quiet?
damn never knew they whereshitty I have several and they work great
 
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jonnynobody

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spek9 said:
LOL You're supposed to apply spray foam insulation sparingly, not bathe in it ;)
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Us rednecks aren't real big into reading instructions. I'm more of a gut instinct kinda guy. My gut told me that shit would wash right off. Reality told me something different. As did the instructions on the back of the can. Which of course I read after the damage was done. When I saw the tidbit about "after hardening mechanical removal is required", I really felt like I could have handled that situation better. Dam that gut instinct :)
 
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jonnynobody

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Nizza said:
goo-gone or goof off works excellent to remove spray foam

not supposed to get that on the skin though!!
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Sir, I can attest with absolute certainty that you are incorrect. I washed in mineral spirits, goo gone, and gasoline. That is some of the gnarliest shit known to man. One of the nice warnings on the back of the can makes it clear: "Soft or skinned material can be removed with acetone. After hardening mechanical removal will be required." Trust me. They aren't embellishing.
 
Nizza

Nizza

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I used to spray foam a lot and the goo gone really allowed you to get the stuff off the foam guns, which were metal. Without the goo gone the residue would stay, the acetone sounds like a much cheaper way to remove all of it!

I agree you must physically scrape it off though it doesn’t just wipe off with silicone

Great point!!
 
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jonnynobody

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Kindbuds303 said:
Are u talking about the ac infinity Dana’s that have temp and humidity and are super quiet?
damn never knew they whereshitty I have several and they work great
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There's a reason they are warrantied for 2 years. That is their expected life. I wouldn't call them junk. I would call them a poor choice. There are simply better options out there. Vortex, can-fan, and s&p. There's just no reason to use a no name china unit backed with a short warranty. Vortex is made in Canada. Can-fan in Germany, and S&P in America. I believe in buying quality products and supporting companies that make quality products. I truly don't care where a product is made, but the bottom line is Canada, America, and Germany pay their workers substantially more than China. The end result is a higher quality product that leaves the factory. In a nutshell you get what you pay for.
 
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