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xtsho

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Ah, I'm just going by his post. So it cures prostate cancer. At least that's a start and one less cancer to worry about. Fingers crossed it will also cure pancreatic.
If cannabis cured cancer then the tens of thousands of cancer patients currently using it would be cured. Sometimes cancer goes into remission on it's own. That doesn't mean someone that smoked pot had their cancer cured by cannabis.

I've know many cancer survivors that underwent traditional cancer treatments and have now been cancer free for years. If they had just smoked cannabis they would be dead today.

There are many people that have a mistrust for traditional medicine. I understand that. But I would hate to see someone that believed they could cure their cancer not get proper treatment because they believed they could cure it with cannabis.
 

DarkWeb

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So happy our state opened up!...........fucking place is crawling with out of staters! I'm not leaving the property all Holiday weekend. What's pissing me off the most is we live in this awesome place but right now locals can't use it.........everyone fled the populated spots to populate ours. Before you'd only see locals during the week because on the weekends all the waterfalls, swimming holes, kayking and hiking spots where packed with tourists! It's fucking weekend every day now!

/RANT!
 

xtsho

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"The existing research was performed on artificial 3D models that mimic parts of the body that are impacted by COVID-19, like airways and intestinal tissues. At this point, there’s no way of knowing for sure whether these strains of cannabis that worked on the 3D models in a lab would act the same way on real people."

I highly doubt that the human body is going to be the same as a 3D model in a lab. There's a ton of people getting a ton of money through government grants to study Covid-19 and many are just in it for the money. As soon as I read 3D model that was enough for me.
 

xtsho

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So happy our state opened up!...........fucking place is crawling with out of staters! I'm not leaving the property all Holiday weekend. What's pissing me off the most is we live in this awesome place but right now locals can't use it.........everyone fled the populated spots to populate ours. Before you'd only see locals during the week because on the weekends all the waterfalls, swimming holes, kayking and hiking spots where packed with tourists! It's fucking weekend every day now!

/RANT!
Your state just opened up? It may very well shut back down in the future.
 

greg nr

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Cannabis has many medicinal uses. Curing the Covid-19 isn't one of them. There is no truth to what you heard regarding cannabis and Covid-19. It's just another internet rumor/nonsense.
Not cannabis, CBD. And it is much more than an internet rumor, both Canadian and European scientists are conducting studies into its efficacy. It seems CBD attaches to the same receptors that the bug that causes covid does. It's still preliminary, but more promising than how you describe it. THC on the other hand, is contra indicated. It seems to make your immune system less effective against the virus.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. ;)
 

xtsho

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Not cannabis, CBD. And it is much more than an internet rumor, both Canadian and European scientists are conducting studies into its efficacy. It seems CBD attaches to the same receptors that the bug that causes covid does. It's still preliminary, but more promising than how you describe it. THC on the other hand, is contra indicated. It seems to make your immune system less effective against the virus.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. ;)
Put what in my pipe? That study doesn't prove anything.

They got $1.1 billion CAD to do a study using 3d models. The study wasn't performed on human patients or even a lab rat but a damn 3d model. And then all they can say is "may help", and "warrant further investigation". But they got $1.1 billion CAD from the Canadian government. As I said before. It's all about getting government money.

When they have finished their studies and published the results then I'll take another look. Until then it's just a study.

Study results indicated hemp extracts high in CBD may help block proteins that provide a “gateway” for COVID-19 to enter host cells.

Our initial findings warrant further investigation but it’s possible that medical cannabis products could become a safe adjunct therapy for the treatment of COVID-19,” Dr. Kovalchuk added.

Pathway Rx has actively been seeking funding and partners for more research into cannabinoid-based formulations to treat coronavirus. The company recently secured $1.1 billion CAD from the Canadian government to support scientific initiatives related to COVID-19.



I'm more inclined to go with the Israeli's on this and their research that CBD can help with steroid treatment but CBD alone is not a cure.

Israeli startup Stero Therapeutics says cannabis component could enhance steroid treatment or enable reduced steroid dosage to avoid negative effects.

Stero aims to determine if CBD, the non-psychoactive component in cannabis, can enhance the effect of corticosteroids — the first line of treatment for autoimmune illnesses like inflammatory bowel disease and lupus — or enable reducing steroid dosage while maintaining or improving its therapeutic effects.

 

xtsho

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Tommy had prostate cancer, not pancreatic, and colorectal.
Yes rectal and prostate cancer.


Ah, I'm just going by his post. So it cures prostate cancer. At least that's a start and one less cancer to worry about. Fingers crossed it will also cure pancreatic.
Tommy Cong did have cancer and he did self medicate with marijuana but he also underwent chemotherapy and traditional treatments.

Chong, 77, said his cancer, which he described as "in stage one," will be treated with chemo and radiation -- and, unsurprisingly, marijuana, in the form of suppositories.



My medical team removed the tumor almost immediately after discovering it. I underwent radiation for about a month, and then had surgery. I found that UCLA is really the best place to be treated: the best surgeons, the best care and the best attitude. For about a year, I was on chemo pills, 20 days on and then a week off. It was a short struggle – a short bump in the road for me.

 

pabloesqobar

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Yes rectal and prostate cancer.




Tommy Cong did have cancer and he did self medicate with marijuana but he also underwent chemotherapy and traditional treatments.

Chong, 77, said his cancer, which he described as "in stage one," will be treated with chemo and radiation -- and, unsurprisingly, marijuana, in the form of suppositories.



My medical team removed the tumor almost immediately after discovering it. I underwent radiation for about a month, and then had surgery. I found that UCLA is really the best place to be treated: the best surgeons, the best care and the best attitude. For about a year, I was on chemo pills, 20 days on and then a week off. It was a short struggle – a short bump in the road for me.

This is getting confusing and scientific now. Are you suggesting people can't cure their prostate cancer with marijuana?
 

xtsho

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This is getting confusing and scientific now. Are you suggesting people can't cure their prostate cancer with marijuana?
Yes, he stated himself that he underwent traditional cancer treatments including chemotherapy.

Tommy Chong has been smoking marijuana for most of his life. If it cured cancer then wouldn't it cave prevented it to begin with? Chong himself
 

pabloesqobar

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Yes, he stated himself that he underwent traditional cancer treatments including chemotherapy.

Tommy Chong has been smoking marijuana for most of his life. If it cured cancer then wouldn't it cave prevented it to begin with? Chong himself
I gotta tell ya, I'm hesitant to disbelieve someone as knowledgeable and informed as the gentleman who posted that claim and happens to run this joint. He's not someone to make unfounded claims or exaggerate. That would be irresponsible and not something he would do.
 

raratt

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I gotta tell ya, I'm hesitant to disbelieve someone as knowledgeable and informed as the gentleman who posted that claim and happens to run this joint. He's not someone to make unfounded claims or exaggerate. That would be irresponsible and not something he would do.
Prostate and pancreatic cancers are two different worlds. I would read the links from Tommy's treatment regimen and make my determination from that. There is no definitive study that states CBD cures cancer.
 

xtsho

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I gotta tell ya, I'm hesitant to disbelieve someone as knowledgeable and informed as the gentleman who posted that claim and happens to run this joint. He's not someone to make unfounded claims or exaggerate. That would be irresponsible and not something he would do.
Did you read the links I posted? You can read what he said about his cancer treatment in interviews yourself.
 
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