Kassiopeija
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indeed, and also Cannabis roots secrete citrate anyway, in order to chelate Calcium... and bacterias can actually find their spot, thats were bio-charcoal, humate & clay complexes into play
Using fruit to enhance your flavor
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Kassiopeija
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are all molecules the same? in terms of size etc? maybe some can surpass the semi-permeable membrane at the heart of a plants roots? They can absorb bigger molecules, like a number of polypeptides, aminoacids, various sugars, urea... some of which are actively absorbed by carriers...
Plant roots can also absorb citrate & malate, or huge chelates... I have no doubt that some of the many basic secondairy plant metabolytes can surpass as well....
MICHI-CAN
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You can compost citrus over months. But the first few months you will find a significant mycilium die off in fungal rich compost. It is toxic to organic living soil in excess. It cannot flavor buds any way other than misting with fruit juice or storing with dehydrated fruit pieces. Smells good taste like crap. If someone has found a way? Please tell me so I can avoid there goods. Thank you.
waterproof808
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Have you actually observed this under a microscope or have any evidence besides this being an old garden myth? A properly made compost pile will have no issues with any citrus a normal person would use. You can always add lime to neutralize the acid if you have an abundance of fruit.
EvilScotsm@n
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I've heard about the 2 week flush with orange fanta thing before. Been meaning to try it for ages but keep forgetting.
Folk feed the treacle and sugar n shit like that and swear it makes the plants taste different so although it sounds a bit radge, I don't really see why it couldn't work.
I'll try it eventually to find out for myself though
Folk feed the treacle and sugar n shit like that and swear it makes the plants taste different so although it sounds a bit radge, I don't really see why it couldn't work.
I'll try it eventually to find out for myself though
Kassiopeija
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Some growers actually shun these products because they see the weed tastes too sweet & sugary (Biobizz Topmax)
Citric acid is one of the least acidic substances, and as organic is fully biodegradable, and can be metabolised easily by most lifeform ("Citrate Cycle").. all in quantities, ofc
pH downer acids need to work on Ca&Mg otherwise it could cause issues...
Citric acid is one of the least acidic substances, and as organic is fully biodegradable, and can be metabolised easily by most lifeform ("Citrate Cycle").. all in quantities, ofc
pH downer acids need to work on Ca&Mg otherwise it could cause issues...
Kassiopeija
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Monosaccharide absorption activity of Arabidopsis roots depends on expression profiles of transporter genes under high salinity conditions - PubMed
Plant roots are able to absorb sugars from the rhizosphere but also release sugars and other metabolites that are critical for growth and environmental signaling. Reabsorption of released sugar molecules could help reduce the loss of photosynthetically fixed carbon through the roots. Although...
"Abstract
Plant roots are able to absorb sugars from the rhizosphere but also release sugars and other metabolites that are critical for growth and environmental signaling. Reabsorption of released sugar molecules could help reduce the loss of photosynthetically fixed carbon through the roots.
Overall, our data indicate that sugar uptake capacity in Arabidopsis roots changes in response to environmental stresses and that this activity is dependent on the expression pattern of sugar transporters."
Arabidopsis = modell organism
^^ many different sugars ^^
MarineCannaMed
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It's not as much of them being different sizes as much as one (flavor) is a oil and the other (sugars) is not..... A plant isn't going to waste it's energy sucking up oil from the
ground that has no need for.
MICHI-CAN
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Is obviosly visible to the naked eye when lifting a layer in the compost pile and the webs that were there are almost completely gone. And it was prolific before. I am glad we are all scratching our heads and hopefully gaining some insight as to different opinions. I personally will not compost citrus. And I use molasses in my indoor grows. Side by side comparisons when I first learned of it. Bigger buds. Same flavor. Thanks to all for your opinions. I'm having to read some more as a result. Good stuff. Keep experimenting. We will find a better way eventually. Peace.
Budzbuddha
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Im high rite now sorryMonosaccharide absorption activity of Arabidopsis roots depends on expression profiles of transporter genes under high salinity conditions - PubMed
Plant roots are able to absorb sugars from the rhizosphere but also release sugars and other metabolites that are critical for growth and environmental signaling. Reabsorption of released sugar molecules could help reduce the loss of photosynthetically fixed carbon through the roots. Although...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Abstract
Plant roots are able to absorb sugars from the rhizosphere but also release sugars and other metabolites that are critical for growth and environmental signaling. Reabsorption of released sugar molecules could help reduce the loss of photosynthetically fixed carbon through the roots.
Overall, our data indicate that sugar uptake capacity in Arabidopsis roots changes in response to environmental stresses and that this activity is dependent on the expression pattern of sugar transporters."
Arabidopsis = modell organism
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^^ many different sugars ^^
mateobeast88
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what do you know or have you tried this before?
MarineCannaMed
Member
Yea I tried those before. They help your plants grow to their fullest potential. I would run that with "super soil mix"
canadiantoker420
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I’m back G, and using fruit? Um sugar cane is technically fruit u know what I mean.. I think what ppl are trying to say is “sugars” such as molasses etc can help fuel production? And btw pictures I just sent barely does any justice lol using an iPad to take the pictures and it makes my shit look like it’s AA when it’s rly AAAA+ ..took roughly 20-25 days of cure time to get nice n tasty though.. I need a better way of taking pics but first one is the 8ball kush turned out rediculous looking and it needs a grinder if u try to finger bust it you end up ripping the paper n spilling the flower everywhere wile it’s glue’d to yourself u can see the finger hash on my hand jus from playing wit a few buds for too long.. n those are pics of my plants I have near the house I got 3 in the ground and 2 in totes ones a 14gal other is 30gal .... wasn’t best year outdoors here in Canada almost lost sum stuff to frost, early. Got a few lemonade freezelands over 6ft though prolly 6.5ft now, and half the size of a car EASY, nice n bushy the lemonades, Durban freezelands etc are flowering there probly day 8-9 flower today, I can’t get any pictures of my guerilla grow rite now but that’s where my biggest plants are this year (ones near the house I been working on morning sunlight for them every week and finally now my c99 blueberry gets some good direct morning light) I’m in love with my best pheno of 8ball and gorilla skittles so I’m keeping them two to run this fall in the tent and ima probly add sumthing stooooopid in there with them...maybe a breathe strain or cookies/dosi/purps
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MarineCannaMed
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Sugar cane is technically in the grass family. People were not trying to say sugars will fuel production. Their Claim was that if you water with fruit juice, your plants will taste like that juice after processing and drying.
Pete Jones III
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So its not good to use citric acid to lower soil ph because it will kill microbes?
Popop
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Nothing like placing perlite with used cat litterHow about bubble gum or cat piss?
916Grower420
Active Member
Fruit has sugar...
DarkWeb
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Wow....