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Cavemanej255

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I’ve been battling hight temps in the tent recently so decided to add an additional fan up top to push some air outside of the tent. Out of sheer laziness, I only removed the first row of plant so I can step my foot in. While feeding the power cord through one of the holes, it fell out and drop right onto a critical haze autoflower plant. It ripped off clean the entire first fan leaf along with the 2 developing bud sites.

I know I’m not ‘screwed’ as in the plant is going to die. Just curious if anyone has experience with something like this and how big of an impact it’ll have on the overall plant since the veg cycle is short on autos to begin with. Still so disappointed and can’t believe I made such a lazy mistake.

I guess the plant that will be trained has been chosen....
 

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Relief...thanks guys...seeing 2 pre flowers ripped off as well really got me going. Any particular reason why some would choose to remove those lower leaves even though they have pre flowers?
 
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Cavemanej255 said:
Relief...thanks guys...seeing 2 pre flowers ripped off as well really got me going. Any particular reason why some would choose to remove those lower leaves even though they have pre flowers?
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I feel like u are calling the start of a branch a "pre flower" and its not. Bottom branches typically dont get a chance to grow very tall and get shaded out by the rest of the plant and dont produce good bud. For whatever reason, the very first set of branches always seem to end up really pathetic compared to the rest of the plant in my experience.
 
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JoeBlow5823 said:
I feel like u are calling the start of a branch a "pre flower" and its not. Bottom branches typically dont get a chance to grow very tall and get shaded out by the rest of the plant and dont produce good bud. For whatever reason, the very first set of branches always seem to end up really pathetic compared to the rest of the plant in my experience.
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Yea for sure. But I did let one grow and I pulled it up to the light. Let me see it I have a pic
In the pic look at the bottom right and u can see it twisted around and going up

I did Trim new growth off it, so it could grow up faster
 

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9BestBudz0 said:
Yea for sure. But I did let one grow and I pulled it up to the light. Let me see it I have a pic
In the pic look at the bottom right and u can see it twisted around and going up

I did Trim new growth off it, so it could grow up faster
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Yeah my last set of LST autos that i did, none of the branches in the back got big/tall enough to produce quality bud. I think you got lucky with that one.
 
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You are correct in pointing out my mistake. Def the start of new branches not pre flowers. Thanks for the clarification

So out of the 4 autoflowers I have going this one will be the girl to get training. I want to leave the other 3 alone for the sake of it being my first grow

Any recommendations on when I should start the first bend?
 
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Cavemanej255 said:
With the above being said, would it be a bad idea to remove the other remaining leaf as well?
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Yeah you might as well take that leaf off as well, it will be the first one to shrivel up and die on its own anyway. Now would be the time to start LST. Those nodes are tight together, training wont be easy. When i used to do autos, i would put a bamboo stake in at a 45 degree angle and tie the plants new growth to it every 3-4 days. Made them into really nice bushes.

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JoeBlow5823 said:
Yeah you might as well take that leaf off as well, it will be the first one to shrivel up and die on its own anyway. Now would be the time to start LST. Those nodes are tight together, training wont be easy. When i used to do autos, i would put a bamboo stake in at a 45 degree angle and tie the plants new growth to it every 3-4 days. Made them into really nice bushes.

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Mephisto Genetic seeds?
 
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Merkn4aSquirtn said:
I’ve seen some good looking plants from fastbuds. What do you not like about the autos? Consistency?
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Phenotypes are all over the place. Look at the two pineapple express in the back right of that picture. Those came from the same seed pack. They also flower whenever the hell they want. Could end up being 2 grams could end up being 6 ounces. And ive only had one auto out of about 30 that produced nice dense buds. I have 7 photos going right now and they are all as dense or denser than densest auto I had. Most autos i couldnt fit more than 2.5-3 ounces in a half gallon jar. Ive seen photo strains that fit over a half pound in a half gallon jar. The big fluffy buds might be nice for resale purposes if your into that kind of thing but im not. I like rock hard dense nuggs with a very low leaf to bud ratio. The autos were always consistently a lot more leafy than photos which has a major affect on smoke taste and potency.
 
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JoeBlow5823 said:
Phenotypes are all over the place. Look at the two pineapple express in the back right of that picture. Those came from the same seed pack. They also flower whenever the hell they want. Could end up being 2 grams could end up being 6 ounces. And ive only had one auto out of about 30 that produced nice dense buds. I have 7 photos going right now and they are all as dense or denser than densest auto I had. Most autos i couldnt fit more than 2.5-3 ounces in a half gallon jar. Ive seen photo strains that fit over a half pound in a half gallon jar. The big fluffy buds might be nice for resale purposes if your into that kind of thing but im not. I like rock hard dense nuggs with a very low leaf to bud ratio. The autos were always consistently a lot more leafy than photos which has a major affect on smoke taste and potency.
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I’m doing one more run of autos here real soon. I’ve been thinking about getting into photos past week. I feel I could control veg a lot better. I’d also prefer the 12/12, for the sake of all my equipment. (Less running parts)
90-100 days seems to be the average time from seed to harvest with autos. Wondering with just a couple weeks longer, what could a photo do. If I could average a couple extra O’s per plant for 2 weeks longer, I’d do it.
 
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I was given advice to learn to grow and make mistakes on autos and then after a few runs switch to photos. Not sure if that was good advice but I followed it and ordered a bunch of fast buds seeds. Well see how they turn out.

And I’m noticing how closely spaced the nodes are and bending it seems like it’s going to be a challenge. The 45 degree stick and constant bending sounds like a good idea. I guess LED’s really do produce tighter internodal spacing huh?
 
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Cavemanej255 said:
I was given advice to learn to grow and make mistakes on autos and then after a few runs switch to photos. Not sure if that was good advice but I followed it and ordered a bunch of fast buds seeds. Well see how they turn out.

And I’m noticing how closely spaced the nodes are and bending it seems like it’s going to be a challenge. The 45 degree stick and constant bending sounds like a good idea. I guess LED’s really do produce tighter internodal spacing huh?
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It was bad advice. Ive got a stockpile of fastbuds seeds that i will likely never grow. Ive switched to photos and they are so much better. Such a waste. Node spacing is affected by genetics and light spectrum. Grow the right strain under a 10k MH bulb and you wont have any space between branches.
 
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I wouldn’t say it was bad advice per say. You can’t speak from your experience and compare it to others factually when there’s a million different variables that differ from grower A to grower B.
I should have been more specific I guess.

This is the led spectrum I’m vegging under. I’m impressed with how far led technology has come. I’ve yet to come across traditional lighting with spectrums as such. I’m growing 4 different auto strains and each show node spacing this close. Seems to be light response rather than genetics at this point but we’ll see once some more DNA replication and growth occurs
 

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