Blm, the next level

DIY-HP-LED

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Yes, we know that Canada has difficulty dealing with contentious issues and shuts down uncomfortable debate. Thanks for affirming this.
I'm not shutting anything down other than inappropriate accusations, the discussion is fine, the Problem in America acute. We have had police reform and we are gonna have more, natives are pursuing legal options and also have a strong political voice and much public support. We have human rights commissions that business owners and others dread and other policies to tamp down social division. The entire planet will become multicultural eventually, America and Canada are leading examples. People don't come by boat any more, they fly and the internet allows, cultural contact back home, other than language for work, everything else legal is up for grabs. Social division has been disastrous for many middle eastern countries like Lebanon, Yugoslavia and Israel among others, even the tribal rule now in Libya.

As I stated, racism in America is now seen as a national security threat, because it is, Trump proved this and has a 5th column of Russian controlled fascists at his command. Moving forward this change in perception will make a big difference in how this social issue is approached and funded.
 

Fogdog

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I'm not shutting anything down other than inappropriate accusations, the discussion is fine, the Problem in America acute. We have had police reform and we are gonna have more, natives are pursuing legal options and also have a strong political voice and much public support. We have human rights commissions that business owners and others dread and other policies to tamp down social division. The entire planet will become multicultural eventually, America and Canada are leading examples. People don't come by boat any more, they fly and the internet allows, cultural contact back home, other than language for work, everything else legal is up for grabs. Social division has been disastrous for many middle eastern countries like Lebanon, Yugoslavia and Israel among others, even the tribal rule now in Libya.

As I stated, racism in America is now seen as a national security threat, because it is, Trump proved this and has a 5th column of Russian controlled fascists at his command. Moving forward this change in perception will make a big difference in how this social issue is approached and funded.
I'm not comparing the severity of our situation with Canada. We started at completely different points and our cultures have similarities but the two societies are different.

The Scotch guy showed us just how bad unaddressed problems like racism can get. It's a lesson that somebody living in Nova Scotcha might learn from. Or not. It's up to you.

I was particularly charmed by the naive comment somebody to the south of Scotchland made when I read that there are no problems like that in England. lulz
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'm not comparing the severity of our situation with Canada. We started at completely different points and our cultures have similarities but the two societies are different.

The Scotch guy showed us just how bad unaddressed problems like racism can get. It's a lesson that somebody living in Nova Scotcha might learn from. Or not. It's up to you.

I was particularly charmed by the naive comment somebody to the south of Scotchland made when I read that there are no problems like that in England. lulz
I didn't say there were no problems here, assholes exist everywhere, it's just the sheer numbers that make a difference. The key point is the culture is changing at an accelerated rate every decade and this will be reflected in the political system and is. Who are the majority of new lawyers in America? What percentage of them are Black or minority? These are the future politicians 20 or 30 years down the road, shit look at the diversity in the democratic caucus, this diversity will be reflected in policy and policy can help with social change.

You will have many bigots voting against Trump and republicans, ya don't need to swap spit with em, just make sure they either do the right thing or stay home. Get the government, top down change works better when ya got the implementers by the balls and for the first time in American history, that might happen next year.
 

Fogdog

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You’re the worst type of bigot, you accuse others of racism when you are making racist posts, and then pretend to be a lib. All the while you blather on shitposting 4x in a row sometimes, you’re a racist asshole and a very boring one at that.
Maybe not the worst. I wonder if his fake hybrid new age religion that borrows words from Buddhism is because western sages are less forgiving than his made up religion? Didn't he say that his mentor just tell him to do whatever he likes?

The basis of western culture doesn't allow such latitude. Socrates, for example, took an uncompromising view on the value of living an examined life. DIY has volumes of words of advice for others but plenty of excuses for his own. Has he ever owned up to the lack of intelligence about racism that he expressed in his earlier posts?
 

Fogdog

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I didn't say there were no problems here, assholes exist everywhere, it's just the sheer numbers that make a difference. The key point is the culture is changing at an accelerated rate every decade and this will be reflected in the political system and is. Who are the majority of new lawyers in America? What percentage of them are Black or minority? These are the future politicians 20 or 30 years down the road, shit look at the diversity in the democratic caucus, this diversity will be reflected in policy and policy can help with social change.

You will have many bigots voting against Trump and republicans, ya don't need to swap spit with em, just make sure they either do the right thing or stay home. Get the government, top down change works better when ya got the implementers by the balls and for the first time in American history, that might happen next year.
Yes, we have plenty of problems in the US and you have made plenty of posts to point that out. I acknowlege that we have work to do. I've put my body on the line too. Do you not see the upheaval that our work is causing? Change is hard. It doesn't happen without examining our own lives. Nova Scotcha, are you listening?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You’re the worst type of bigot, you accuse others of racism when you are making racist posts, and then pretend to be a lib. All the while you blather on shitposting 4x in a row sometimes, you’re a racist asshole and a very boring one at that.
Oh yeah, you won't even say who you are or where you are coming from, 2nd generation Indian immigrant covers a lot of ground. Wanna gaslight? Maybe yer a Muslim (culturally) who resents "western domination" and is seeking to sow racial division in America, who knows what might motivate you?

I figure you are suffering from chronic depression and are displaying many of the traits including over generalizing, I've suspected this for some time too. The attitude in general was the give away, hope I'm wrong though, it's hard to read between the lines
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe not the worst. I wonder if his fake hybrid new age religion that borrows words from Buddhism is because western sages are less forgiving than his made up religion? Didn't he say that his mentor just tell him to do whatever he likes?

The basis of western culture doesn't allow such latitude. Socrates, for example, took an uncompromising view on the value of living an examined life. DIY has volumes of words of advice for others but plenty of excuses for his own. Has he ever owned up to the lack of intelligence about racism that he expressed in his earlier posts?
Everybody who wishes to be effective should know who they are and what their values are, then proceed to live by them. I've kinda had enough of this particular discussion and I've got stuff to do. Just focus on the real problems and get the priorities straight, get the government back and America will do ok as the forces of liberalism take hold. I have faith in the American people, the constitution and the rule of law, they unleash compassion driven forces that lead to human rights and equality for all. Jefferson owned slaves, but he penned the Bill of Rights, a liberal document if there ever was one.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe not the worst. I wonder if his fake hybrid new age religion that borrows words from Buddhism is because western sages are less forgiving than his made up religion? Didn't he say that his mentor just tell him to do whatever he likes?

The basis of western culture doesn't allow such latitude. Socrates, for example, took an uncompromising view on the value of living an examined life. DIY has volumes of words of advice for others but plenty of excuses for his own. Has he ever owned up to the lack of intelligence about racism that he expressed in his earlier posts?
BTW have ya noticed all the new trolls lately?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Change is hard
Yeah, I've spent a lot of quality time in pursuit of it and happiness too and not all wisdom is from western sources, much comes from a culture that would be alien even to those living in India today. Alexander made it to India and he also brought a few ideas back, for many centuries there were Greek buddhist dynasties between India and greece.

Not many work on self improvement or follow "the path to perfection", I just call it social/emotional deconditioning because I follow science as my "religion" and put the whole thing into a human evolutionary context and seek my answers there. I've gone "native" as the British used to say about those seduced by other cultures.
 

zeddd

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Oh yeah, you won't even say who you are or where you are coming from, 2nd generation Indian immigrant covers a lot of ground. Wanna gaslight? Maybe yer a Muslim (culturally) who resents "western domination" and is seeking to sow racial division in America, who knows what might motivate you?
More egregious racism, thanks for the confirmation.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is one of those black female lawyers I alluded to, doing a little social change.


New York attorney general files lawsuit to dissolve the National Rifle Association

(CNN)New York Attorney General Letitia James announced she will attempt to dissolve the National Rifle Association, accusing its senior leadership of violating laws governing non-profit groups, using millions from the organization's reserves for personal use and tax fraud.

In a news release Thursday morning, James, a Democrat, alleged that current and former NRA leadership "instituted a culture of self-dealing mismanagement" benefiting themselves, family, friends and favored vendors, leading the organization to lose more than $63 million in three years.

"The NRA's influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets," James said in the news release



James' office filed the suit Thursday morning in New York Supreme Court. It names the NRA's CEO and Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, General Counsel and Secretary John Frazer, former Chief Financial Officer Wilson "Woody" Phillips and former Chief of Staff and Executive Director of General Operations Josh Powell. While the NRA has headquarters in the Northern Virginia suburbs outside Washington, DC, the organization has operated as a New York-registered 501(c)(4) group since 1871, the news release stated.

The lawsuit marks an ambitious attempt by James to end one of the nation's most influential interest groups, one that has played an outsized role in Republican politics. The NRA reports that it has about 5 million members across the country and works to defend Americans' Second Amendment right to bear arms and has turned increasingly political in recent years -- particularly in its political operation's support of President Donald Trump.

James accuses the NRA of violating multiple laws including false reporting of annual filings with the IRS and New York's charities bureau, improperly documenting expenses, improper wage and income tax reporting and excessively paying people for work for which they were not qualified.

Many of the charges stem from the NRA's status as a charitable organization, which has strict state and federal rules governing spending.
The suit also asks the court to order LaPierre, Frazer, Phillips and Powell to make full restitution for "funds they unlawfully profited" and salaries earned while employees; to remove LaPierre and Frazer from the NRA's leadership; and ensure that none of the four can ever serve on the board of any charity in New York.

James' office confirmed it was investigating the NRA in 2019, after reporting by The Trace alleged that a small group of executives, contractors and vendors affiliated with the the group extracted hundreds of millions from the non-profit's budget.

Thursday's lawsuit punctuates a turbulent period for the nation's foremost gun lobby.

The organization was roiled by a bitter leadership battle last year all while navigating an evolving political landscape on guns shaped by mass shootings and increasingly powerful gun safety groups.

The NRA had named Oliver North -- whose name is synonymous with the Reagan-era Iran-Contra scandal -- its president in 2018 as it grappled with a renewed push for gun control.

But as the organization gathered for its annual meeting in 2019, the news broke that LaPierre had told the organization's board he was being extorted and pressured to resign by North.

The NRA later reelected LaPierre to his leadership position after North told NRA members -- through a letter read during their annual meeting -- that he had hoped to be renominated for a second term but had since been "informed that will not happen."

It was during that turmoil when the New York Attorney General's Office confirmed an investigation into the group.

"As part of this investigation, the Attorney General has issued subpoenas," a spokesperson for James said in a statement to CNN at the time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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New York Attorney General Letitia James also has Donald by the balls, not bad for a rookie. Give the lady a hand.:D:clap:
 

Fogdog

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Yeah, I've spent a lot of quality time in pursuit of it and happiness too and not all wisdom is from western sources, much comes from a culture that would be alien even to those living in India today. Alexander made it to India and he also brought a few ideas back, for many centuries there were Greek buddhist dynasties between India and greece.

Not many work on self improvement or follow "the path to perfection", I just call it social/emotional deconditioning because I follow science as my "religion" and put the whole thing into a human evolutionary context and seek my answers there. I've gone "native" as the British used to say about those seduced by other cultures.
Too funny that you picked a discipline that is outside your cultural references and then went through the buffet line to load up on what you wanted. This is a great example of white elitism.

Perhaps read up on Greek classical philosophy. What I'm getting from you is that you really aren't examining your own life but focus on others. Elitists are like that.
 

Fogdog

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Oh yeah, you won't even say who you are or where you are coming from, 2nd generation Indian immigrant covers a lot of ground. Wanna gaslight? Maybe yer a Muslim (culturally) who resents "western domination" and is seeking to sow racial division in America, who knows what might motivate you?

I figure you are suffering from chronic depression and are displaying many of the traits including over generalizing, I've suspected this for some time too. The attitude in general was the give away, hope I'm wrong though, it's hard to read between the lines
mmm

very dismissive of the man's viewpoint. Perhaps you should review Sagan's bullshit detection kit. I see you are triggering an alarm in that kit.

An unexamined life is not worth living. Just saying.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If I were Donald, I'be more worried about New York Attorney General Letitia James, he has no "connections" to exploit and "white privilege" won't count for much with this lady. This is just the beginning for Trump and his family from the state of New York, they were a criminal organisation and NY has its own version of RICO. I can see her nailing the works of them with conspiracy etc, the rats will run squealing fast, they already have a year ago in some cases.

If Barr is sitting on any FBI interviews or other salient evidence he'd better cough them up for the prosecution in NY state. I think they are gonna charge Trump and his organisation on multiple counts over the course of months. They have a ton of documents from Deutsche Bank and will soon have a ton of tax and accounting info, indictments pending, but before november for sure.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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An unexamined life is not worth living. Just saying.
I'll bet I've examined mine and my mind much more closely than you, it's a high statistical probability, not self delusion. I follow an evidence based practice and have offered no "spiritual" explanations for the behavior of people in general, its well known and has been for a long time. The exercises do many things including rewiring a our prefrontal cortex, the seat of our most recently evolved soco/emotional intelligence and also the most responsive and plastic part of the brain. This is science, psychology and neuroscience, there is an objective as well as an empirical evidence base, there is also a solid theoretical basis to. I sometimes use the Buddhist paradigm because it meshes well with modern theory about what motivates actions and even causes awareness itself.
 

Fogdog

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I'll bet I've examined mine and my mind much more closely than you, it's a high statistical probability, not self delusion. I follow an evidence based practice and have offered no "spiritual" explanations for the behavior of people in general, its well known and has been for a long time. The exercises do many things including rewiring a our prefrontal cortex, the seat of our most recently evolved soco/emotional intelligence and also the most responsive and plastic part of the brain. This is science, psychology and neuroscience, there is an objective as well as an empirical evidence base, there is also a solid theoretical basis to. I sometimes use the Buddhist paradigm because it meshes well with modern theory about what motivates actions and even causes awareness itself.
You are getting feedback from people with zero reason to fake you out. We agree on so much that I'm willing to overlook your racism. I'm pretty sure that you aren't one of the ones who is out there doing harm, so I'm not going to think any less of you for what you said today. Just saying you have issues with racism and you just proved it a few posts back to zedd. You've never talked to me like that. Can you explain why without descending into racist language?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You are getting feedback from people with zero reason to fake you out. We agree on so much that I'm willing to overlook your racism. I'm pretty sure that you aren't one of the ones who is out there doing harm, so I'm not going to think any less of you for what you said today. Just saying you have issues with racism and you just proved it a few posts back to zedd. You've never talked to me like that. Can you explain why without descending into racist language?
zeddd is spewing racism and bigotry, treatment depends upon behavior. Gaslighting me as some kind of guilt ridden racist liberal wannabe is not helpful. If we meet in person I'd look you in the eye when we spoke. If he wants to be friends he should act like one, like I said, I think he's depressed and don't want to get into a fight with him or you over something stupid, from the perspective of many who will read this stuff or even care.

You have your perspective on these matters born of your experience and understanding, as do I, we are not exactly disagreeing on much here. I do try my best though to be the best person I can be, the happiest too, I have a plan and a viable method to achieve this end, most don't. Happiness is not the same as pleasure either, a junkie can feel that while their kids starve, happiness involves more than just ourselves.

Perhaps you should make a list of demands of others? A purity test? Apply it to yourself first though. Perhaps that will lead to "happiness", or to the suffering of conditionality?

Hint: No one has control over their mind, if we did we'd all be athletes, skinny, happy and content, conditioned things like addiction wouldn't make life Hell for many. I can prove this contention the same way the Buddha did 2600 years ago.
 
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