Blm, the next level

hanimmal

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Everybody gets frustrated by the situation in America, Americans the most, Canadians too, many have American family and I tend to focus on human rights, corruption, racism, treason and mass murder of US citizens. It is normal for people to be appalled at such a horrific situation. We can be frank about the problems and help too, forget the tariffs and support liberal democracy in America, or should.

We should try not to be condescending or insulting, these are complex dynamic social and political situations and are temporary in nature. Having a deep dive into what motivates people's beliefs and behaviors is useful, the enemy are your relatives in many cases, in a social political war with historic roots. Understanding that the Russians are exploiting all divisions, racial, political and even between allies, it is the duty of every intelligent person to foster understanding and smooth over social division, temporarily. This means inside the liberal/democratic camp, that is now filling with conservatives as well as progressives, this is where the ideological battle will take place.

America is no different than any place else, it's just that the 2 party system and of registering as one or the other strengthens identity and primaries, foster tribalism. When tribalism is coupled with racism and history the results are dangerous. I'm a member of the Liberal Party, very few Canadians are a member of a political party, they switch around a lot more.
 

BurtMaklin

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I prefer the honesty personally. You're entitled to think what you like.

I think though that the thought process behind the two guys push a old lady down and she breaks her arm analogy.

The first pushed her out of the way of a oncoming bus that would have ran her over, and the other pushed her down to steal her purse.

I really am not a fan of our global policing, but we were not putting in the worst candidates on purpose. The Russians are trying to get the worst possible trolls elected which hurts the entire world. It is shitty and needs to stop.



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This made me lol.
The problem is, Russia (and more importantly, China) are influencing US and Canadian culture from within it's most important institutions, Universities.

Cancel culture from the militant Left is a direct result of that influence and is doing more harm than good by removing our freedom to have open and free dialogue.

They don't have to radicalize the right, they have always been radical. They are radicalizing the left with the old bait a switch. Wait till the cancel STEM because it's too "white". The worst is yet to come because everyone's looking right when they should be looking left.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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I thought we were here to discuss the hard truths. America has been asserting their influence the world over for decades.

But point taken.
Here is another hard truth, this is what freedom means, we can travel to Europe and if you are part of the international FPV community, the guy who made this video might even be your guide. You can do shit on vacation in some places ya can't legally do in Canada or America, FPV tourism is a thing (or was until covid). Americans are plague prisoners, the liberals know this, but the lurking Trumpers should have it rubbed in their noses.
Many American professional pilots are hurt by this plague too, everybody gets fucked over, this is but a tiny slice of the damage.

Behold the meaning of freedom and the pursuit of happiness
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
The problem is, Russia (and more importantly, China) are influencing US and Canadian culture from within it's most important institutions, Universities.

Cancel culture from the militant Left is a direct result of that influence and is doing more harm than good by removing our freedom to have open and free dialogue.

They don't have to radicalize the right, they have always been radical. They are radicalizing the left with the old bait a switch. Wait till the cancel STEM because it's too "white". The worst is yet to come because everyone's looking right when they should be looking left.

Ya sound like Bill Maher! :D
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Endless vandalism, destroying memorials of people who are being remembered for nothing more than the heroic acts during the war that most people wouldn't dare to do. You don't have to be white to be racist. I respect what the protests were for but they went about it like a bunch of hooligans
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-people-behind-the-violence-in-the-american-protests-of-george-floyd.1018871/post-15693416

These protests are getting hijacked and you are falling for the propaganda that is being used to paint them as what you describe.


The problem is, Russia (and more importantly, China) are influencing US and Canadian culture from within it's most important institutions, Universities.
Yeah it is hilarious how hard Trump's trolls he appointed to the intelligence community are trying to pretend like China is the issue to divert attention from the country that is actively engaged in attacking our citizens with their military on a massive and organized scale.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2139-statement-by-ncsc-director-william-evanina-election-threat-update-for-the-american-public
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Trump might think that he can sell China 'preferring' not to have a unstable idiot as POTUS is the same as actively using their military to get involved in our elections, but I think he is wrong. He is too stupid to not mess up all his foreign dictators trolls hard work.

Going to the education troll before this string of Dear Leader talking points:
Cancel culture from the militant Left is a direct result of that influence and is doing more harm than good by removing our freedom to have open and free dialogue.

They don't have to radicalize the right, they have always been radical. They are radicalizing the left with the old bait a switch. Wait till the cancel STEM because it's too "white". The worst is yet to come because everyone's looking right when they should be looking left.

 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
The problem is, Russia (and more importantly, China) are influencing US and Canadian culture from within it's most important institutions, Universities.

Cancel culture from the militant Left is a direct result of that influence and is doing more harm than good by removing our freedom to have open and free dialogue.

They don't have to radicalize the right, they have always been radical. They are radicalizing the left with the old bait a switch. Wait till the cancel STEM because it's too "white". The worst is yet to come because everyone's looking right when they should be looking left.

As far as chinese cultural influences go, that is a level playing field of ideas and a meritocratic competition. Cancel culture is neurotic to a point, hate speech is not free speech though.
 

BurtMaklin

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As far as chinese cultural influences go, that is a level playing field of ideas and a meritocratic competition. Cancel culture is neurotic to a point, hate speech is not free speech though.
I'm not for hate speech. Free speech is not a right wing troll although they might use it that way, but haven't they always?
 

BurtMaklin

Well-Known Member
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-people-behind-the-violence-in-the-american-protests-of-george-floyd.1018871/post-15693416

These protests are getting hijacked and you are falling for the propaganda that is being used to paint them as what you describe.



Yeah it is hilarious how hard Trump's trolls he appointed to the intelligence community are trying to pretend like China is the issue to divert attention from the country that is actively engaged in attacking our citizens with their military on a massive and organized scale.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2139-statement-by-ncsc-director-william-evanina-election-threat-update-for-the-american-public
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Trump might think that he can sell China 'preferring' not to have a unstable idiot as POTUS is the same as actively using their military to get involved in our elections, but I think he is wrong. He is too stupid to not mess up all his foreign dictators trolls hard work.

Going to the education troll before this string of Dear Leader talking points:



Ughhhh.


Dude, it's not about Trump. Trump is the commercial, not the show. Do you actually think that when trump is gone that everything will go back to some state of normalcy? Not going to happen. This discourse is here to stay.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Endless vandalism, destroying memorials of people who are being remembered for nothing more than the heroic acts during the war that most people wouldn't dare to do. You don't have to be white to be racist. I respect what the protests were for but they went about it like a bunch of hooligans
They were traitors to the constitution and the cause of human rights for all, they were enemies of humanity in most cases, some people object to having to walk in their shadow and pay taxes for their upkeep, replace them with WW2 heroes, plenty of them and it was a "good war".

Ditto for bases named after confederate generals, name them after patriotic military heroes, not disgusting traitors who fought for an evil worthless cause and murdered American soldiers.
 

hanimmal

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Ughhhh.


Dude, it's not about Trump. Trump is the commercial, not the show. Do you actually think that when trump is gone that everything will go back to some state of normalcy? Not going to happen. This discourse is here to stay.
We will see.

Unfortunately what the problem is we are having is Trump has actively helped Russia's attack on our democracy to the point of sending his criminal lawyer to sell Putin's propaganda. So first things first, is to get rid of Trump and get some actual responsible Americans in charge of protecting our citizens. All of them.
 

strictlyflavours

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They were traitors to the constitution and the cause of human rights for all, they were enemies of humanity in most cases, some people object to having to walk in their shadow and pay taxes for their upkeep, replace them with WW2 heroes, plenty of them and it was a "good war".

Ditto for bases named after confederate generals, name them after patriotic military heroes, not disgusting traitors who fought for an evil worthless cause and murdered American soldiers.
Thing is everybody is blaming the present for the past, you all need to face reality and understand that's the way things were back then and there's no changing it, life was cruel back then and you look through history it always has been. But disregarding history just because it doesn't see fit with black history is just stupid and quite simply just burying your head in the sand.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Thing is everybody is blaming the present for the past, you all need to face reality and understand that's the way things were back then and there's no changing it, life was cruel back then and you look through history it always has been. But disregarding history just because it doesn't see fit with black history is just stupid and quite simply just burying your head in the sand.
I'm a student of history as well as human nature, history is important, just don't carry it like a cross upon your back and remember history is an evolving academic subject and new points of view are coming into the picture too. It has its place in books by Shelby Foote and others, and with documentary makers. These monuments were made in New England, erected in the 1920's and finance by the Daughters of the Confederacy, who also rewrote local history with the "States Rights" bullshit.

This is the final battle of a long standing civil war, the Alamo for the neo confederacy and the extinction of the elephants they ride. They jumped off the donkey cause the ride was getting too rough and complicated for simple minds.
 

UncleBuck

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Thing is everybody is blaming the present for the past, you all need to face reality and understand that's the way things were back then and there's no changing it, life was cruel back then and you look through history it always has been. But disregarding history just because it doesn't see fit with black history is just stupid and quite simply just burying your head in the sand.
so we can disregard history by tearing down a statue of a slave raper
 
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