If its a sealed room think about doing co2 bottles. No extra humidity or extra heat to deal with. In a fully sealed room a 50LB bottle would do a whole crop on 8-10 lights.What are some/the best places to get co2 generators (propane burner variety) online, in canada?
Any canadian manufacturers (if it even made a difference on better pricing)?
Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestions.If its a sealed room think about doing co2 bottles. No extra humidity or extra heat to deal with. In a fully sealed room a 50LB bottle would do a whole crop on 8-10 lights.
For Propane look at Grozone LP5 and LP10 burners.
I meant to say "Bottled co2 isn't an option", to clarify.Thanks for the suggestions.
Unfortunately co2 isn't an option.
Do you think a five burner is probably too much for an approximately 1000 cu/ft room?
Know anything/feedback on the titan controls brand?
Hey man.have you tried sugar water and yeast mix? make up 4 or 5 jugs and you will get c02
The more I read about burners, the more I realize potential complications and even hazards.Will def enhance your set up by adding some c02, just by shaking the mixture once a day.. but as you said no way to control and set limits....
but the plants will sure like it anyways...
T&T hydro in Edmonton has good prices and I believe they make there own line of burners. Good price on co2 equip in general, have used them a lot over the years. I just grabbed my controller from him. Has all the gas stuff as well.What are some/the best places to get co2 generators (propane burner variety) online, in canada?
Any canadian manufacturers (if it even made a difference on better pricing)?
Thanks.
The burners will have blue flames so create co2 unless they are dirty from carbon buildup and have orange flame and create monoxide.The more I read about burners, the more I realize potential complications and even hazards.
With the mixtures like yeast/sugar, and other similar methods, another concern is that I'd not know how much to make and how much I'd spend on those materials. Potential issues as well (mold? fungus?), and running inconsistent levels and that affecting whatever light intensity and/or temp one might be trying to hit. In veg maybe this would be less of an issue? I honestly don't know, never tried it.
As far as burners go, several that I've seen don't say anything about 'not using it in a residential setting', but I definitely am learning about all the potential risks - besides the immediately obvious one.
-If propane fireplaces, for example, vent any waste/gases outside, how do they not vent a lot of the heat as well? Do they just rely on IR heat and heating elements (like ceramic elements) and the glass screen to heat the room? Curious.
I know of the online store, looks like decent prices on various products. Thanks for the heads up. Do you use a burner? What type of setting if you don't mind me asking?T&T hydro in Edmonton has good prices and I believe they make there own line of burners. Good price on co2 equip in general, have used them a lot over the years. I just grabbed my controller from him. Has all the gas stuff as well.
Thanks for the additional info. TandT hydro seems to have CVR, and I saw them listed at megawatt hydro too (garden wholesaler). I've found Grozone at a few online retailer though, thanks for that suggestion by the way. Too bad the smallest unit is a 5-burner. This is not for a 20 light / 20,000 watt room. It's barely 1/10th of that. The best deal I've seen is a two burner on amazon.ca, which suggests it's good for up to a 10x10 room, pretty standard residential sized room. Some people set burners up in smaller rooms, some people even in tents(!) - which sounds really stupid, I sure wouldn't.The burners will have blue flames so create co2 unless they are dirty from carbon buildup and have orange flame and create monoxide.
Personally even for a 20 light room I'd still use bottled co2. No heat, no extra humidity and no toxins.
The only CSA approved burners that I've see were from CVR/Blue Ox or Grozone. Personally I'd go with Grozone. Awesome products and really easy company to deal with for warranty also Canadian company.
CVR is no longer but Blue Ox might be around still.
I was actually just double checking whether that $300 price was for aluminum or ...steel (I assume steel tanks can be bought as well, and are cheaper? Not to mention heavier.) And it was aluminum, and I just plucked it from one site, TandT, because I happened to be looking there. Haha.That seems high for 20lb tank. I could do $120+tax+shipping for and empty 20lb aluminum tank. Have you tried searching for a fire safety equipment supplier? They usually do yearly testing of local business for their fire extinguishers and flood lights. Ask a local business who does their testing.
What are reasonable prices for a refill on a 20lb tank? (and price of "testing" as well, should that need to be done)? I'm curious what some prices are for people, at various "sellers" in different regions of canada, if several people could share prices, please.They are buying new tanks so they are expensive I got a hook up for used certified tanks for cheap I buy for my shop. These are customer owned so you can re sell them or get refilled anywhere Also welding supply places will also refill just make sure they give you back a customer owned and not a rental tank as those are usually owned by companies like Air Liquide etc and you cant resell them.
$35-45 after tax per 20LB refill. With say 4 lights in a sealed room that bottle would probably last 4-6 weeks.What are reasonable prices for a refill on a 20lb tank? (and price of "testing" as well, should that need to be done)? I'm curious what some prices are for people, at various "sellers" in different regions of canada, if several people could share prices, please.
Edit: Also, I know there are variables, but assume decently sealed room, about 800-1000cu/ft, with say about 40 sq/ft of canopy(?), how long is a 20lb tank gonna last - at moderate levels of around 600-800ppm even. (I'm not trying to push high co2 numbers, I'm trying to have a controlled environment).
Thanks.
They don't seem to answer email as of late. Hah.T&T hydro in Edmonton has good prices and I believe they make there own line of burners. Good price on co2 equip in general, have used them a lot over the years. I just grabbed my controller from him. Has all the gas stuff as well.