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BurtMaklin

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bundee1 said:
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Why are you so butt hurt? Just keep your woman happy and she won't get that karmic brown dick. Both my in-laws are racists but guess who is getting the last laugh.
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I don't know them, so I went make a judgement. You should sit them down and talk to them like this though, it's super helpful.
 
Wattzzup

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Nah, I've been part of this dumb conversation for years. Dinner at my father's usually consists of two highly educated, fiercely progressive people, and myself talking about how woke culture has ruined everything from education, comedy, politics and everything in between.
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How dare we pay attention to racism when there are more pressing matters. Let’s just sweep it under the rug for about 200 more years. What do you say?
 
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BurtMaklin said:
I don't know them, so I went make a judgement. You should sit them down and talk to them like this though, it's super helpful.
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Tried it after they got drunk and repeatedly said the n word. They said they're allowed to say it if a black person antagonizes them.
 
hanimmal

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BurtMaklin said:
Nah man, satire is not a troll, one of their papers was not only published, it was either up for an award or won one. You don't see a problem with this. Garbage in, teachable knowledge out. Seriously, swallow your pride and listen to the rogan podcast, it's why I linked it with the articles. Being against something doesn't make you a troll, and as far as I can tell the "everything is racist crowd" is one giant, angry troll. It's why I rarely get bothered by anything here.

My sister is a PhD and turned down a professorship because our universities are full of the same garbage, and I think she would identify as gender neutral but feels it's irrelevant. It's a huge problem, choose to ignore it if you want.
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I think you are looking at something that happened in a philosophy or some other social science field and extrapolating it out to suit what you feel about higher education. You act like some obscure paper is being taught as truth in a entry level college course and not the nuts and bolts of that field to open up how people think critically about the topics.

And 'Satire' is not submitting papers over and over again until you can make enough changes that you can eventually trick your paper into getting published, so that they could build a career attacking academia, that is trolling. You are ignoring that they did this as a ideological stunt and are using their results as 'proof'. Just like whatever that right wing troll who went into a bunch of planned parenthoods to film them to make them look bad after ignoring all the times that their troll failed.

I see you ignored the part that I was showing you how much of political stooges the math guy is when he capitulated instantly after correctly identifying structural racism in our society when the youtube host said that isn't racism. That is the problem with what you are saying is the case, that these are 'proof' of anything, they are evidence, I can buy that. I don't have a issue with critically taking a look at the soft sciences, I am a STEM guy myself and am pretty confident I can bullshit a paper into publication if I had the inclination to be that unethical. Which I do not.

Also it is not about 'pride' that I don't listen to the Joe Rogan podcasts. I won't let his or Dana White's political bullshit to ruin a sport for me that I care a lot about because they decided to wade into the political placating of the MAGA crowd.

White grievance is mostly bullshit, unless you step up and start to admit the attack on our society that is currently being conducted by the Russian military. Do you see a lot of lowest common denominator training of people to be called 'racist' or to snowflake when being called 'racist', yes of course.

Does the online trolling make its way into real life all too often, and become a cudgel to end conversations? Of course it does. That was the intention. And it worked beautifully for Trump and Putin, and our worlds vulnerable to the hateful messaging by the Russian military online fell for it hard.

Does any of this take away from the very real prejudices and racism that women, minority, and non-heterosexual people in our nation have faced? Not in the least, and deciding you can dismiss entire fields of actual study because a couple well educated trolls is just willful ignorance.
 
Fogdog

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New Discourses is an amazing trove of right wing propaganda. Who is paying for that site? You can bet it's not from subscribers. It's huge.

It doesn't matter how many words are on that website, You can't gaslight racism and the effects it has on people. Anybody who believes that shit is living in somebody's basement.

from "the Woke Breaking point":
For a close friend of mine, who is quite Woke still but not at all “all in,” we had to go quite far to find an absolute line. He has one. Should I, or other people he’s close to and knows don’t deserve it, get doxxed or start receiving credible death threats for standing up to Wokeness, that will apparently do it (does anybody deserve this, though?). Seems a little extreme to me that my own life would have to be on the line before he’d think surely this is getting out of hand, but at least he has a line. At least he’s thinking about it.

Uh, ya, woke people are so dangerous, they just might want to talk you off the edge.

The people who are ganging up and putting people in fear of their lives are white supremacist terrorists. It was a white cop's knee on Floyd's neck. Proud Boys are white and they came to Portland to beat people that oppose their brand of fascism. Real world, not the fake BS that Burt reads and then spews here. Elsewhere too. What a nutjob.
 
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