Should racism be accepted if......

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codster25

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No! Obviously I do not have delusions that the white race is in any jeopardy of going extinct. It is interesting though that the debate on whether such speech should be accepted has gone this far. At this point who is trolling who?

i thought you were getting bored of this?
 
Fogdog

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codster25 said:
No! Obviously I do not have delusions that the white race is in any jeopardy of going extinct. It is interesting though that the debate on whether such speech should be accepted has gone this far. At this point who is trolling who?

i thought you were getting bored of this?
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I was just curious how deeply our alt right propaganda has penetrated into Canada. Thanks for the input. So far, half the white Canadians that I've met have been radicalized.

Small sample size.
 
Fogdog

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I'm not making this shit up. About 40% of the people of the US believe the endangered white male false conspiracy theory.

Trump: Biden Is Insulting Men Everywhere by Picking Woman as Running Mate
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Trump: Biden Is Insulting Men Everywhere by Picking Woman as Running Mate

The president said the former VP has made a big mistake by pledging to choose his vice president from what he called “a certain group of people.”
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If you’re looking for a quintessential example of fragile masculinity, look no further. President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday morning that, in pledging to pick a woman as his running mate, Joe Biden has offended men everywhere.

Trump made his comments in a simpering interview with Fox Sports personality and OutKick founder Clay Travis.
 
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hanimmal said:
btw, I really tried to watch that Rogan video again today, but after a few minutes I had to shut it off. There is no way I can listen to him for 2 hours unless it is accompanied by people getting their faces smashed in.
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His UFO and ancient alien stuff is fun though. He's also pulling that Michae l Jordan Republicans buy shoes too shit or else he wouldn't have gotten that Spotify contract.
 
codster25

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bundee1 said:
His UFO and ancient alien stuff is fun though. He's also pulling that Michae l Jordan Republicans buy shoes too shit or else he wouldn't have gotten that Spotify contract.
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Yeah I like watching Rogan’s Alien and Bigfoot podcasts too, I find he often changes his views though, which leads me to question his motives somewhat. I liked his interview with Dan Akroyd on the subjects, too bad he didn’t give him more of a chance to speak though. I think he is a walking encyclopedia on those topics.
 
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BurtMaklin

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hanimmal said:
btw, I really tried to watch that Rogan video again today, but after a few minutes I had to shut it off. There is no way I can listen to him for 2 hours unless it is accompanied by people getting their faces smashed in.
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To each their own. I don't make a habit of watching him, don't like his standup and don't really find him all that funny. The ones I do watch I've already heard his guests speak or read their articles elsewhere. Joe rogan is not a hill ima die on that's for sure. Its entertainment, not news and I'm well aware of that, but he does have some interesting guests that make the news and they are free to make their points with no time constraints.
 
BurtMaklin

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bundee1 said:
His UFO and ancient alien stuff is fun though. He's also pulling that Michae l Jordan Republicans buy shoes too shit or else he wouldn't have gotten that Spotify contract.
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Maybe you can get a spotify contract and you can tell everyone about your irrelevant dick.
 
TrippleDip

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JoeBlow5823 said:
The majority of world changing advancements came from the minds of white men.
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K, I may be a bit late to the thread and not on pg 17 yet, but even I think you need to change your rhetoric unless you are just trying to provoke a reaction.

World changing advancements were made possible by enlightenment values which may have come from white men but that is irrelevant. We are trying to be inclusive, and anyone can get onboard the train of personal rights and responsibilities, equal rights and treatment before the law, as well as the scientific method and meritocracy in general.

It is these things that built the world, and these things that are under attack by those that wish to return to a backward totalitarian state that they imagine themselves at the top of. Don't fan the flames of a race war please, but stand up for what is right in the world like free speech as well as freedom not to be discriminated against by immutable characteristics of which skin colour is only one.

Also a friendly reminder that white isn't so well defined. Many would call boers white, but they're not. Same with turks (caucasians), hispanics and jews, even russians wouldn't be depending on context.
 
Fogdog

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TrippleDip said:
K, I may be a bit late to the thread and not on pg 17 yet, but even I think you need to change your rhetoric unless you are just trying to provoke a reaction.

World changing advancements were made possible by enlightenment values which may have come from white men but that is irrelevant. We are trying to be inclusive, and anyone can get onboard the train of personal rights and responsibilities, equal rights and treatment before the law, as well as the scientific method and meritocracy in general.

It is these things that built the world, and these things that are under attack by those that wish to return to a backward totalitarian state that they imagine themselves at the top of. Don't fan the flames of a race war please, but stand up for what is right in the world like free speech as well as freedom not to be discriminated against by immutable characteristics of which skin colour is only one.

Also a friendly reminder that white isn't so well defined. Many would call boers white, but they're not. Same with turks (caucasians), hispanics and jews, even russians wouldn't be depending on context.
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White people don't experience racism in the US and have no knowledge on the subject to share. They do have plenty of ignorance on the subject. That's not a rare commodity and therefore has little value.
 
JoeBlow5823

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TrippleDip said:
K, I may be a bit late to the thread and not on pg 17 yet, but even I think you need to change your rhetoric unless you are just trying to provoke a reaction.

World changing advancements were made possible by enlightenment values which may have come from white men but that is irrelevant. We are trying to be inclusive, and anyone can get onboard the train of personal rights and responsibilities, equal rights and treatment before the law, as well as the scientific method and meritocracy in general.

It is these things that built the world, and these things that are under attack by those that wish to return to a backward totalitarian state that they imagine themselves at the top of. Don't fan the flames of a race war please, but stand up for what is right in the world like free speech as well as freedom not to be discriminated against by immutable characteristics of which skin colour is only one.

Also a friendly reminder that white isn't so well defined. Many would call boers white, but they're not. Same with turks (caucasians), hispanics and jews, even russians wouldn't be depending on context.
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Then I guess I'm not white. Fuck me, all this time I thought I had some sort of privilege.
 
hanimmal

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bundee1 said:
His UFO and ancient alien stuff is fun though. He's also pulling that Michae l Jordan Republicans buy shoes too shit or else he wouldn't have gotten that Spotify contract.
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I had hope for his History(?) channel show.
BurtMaklin said:
To each their own. I don't make a habit of watching him, don't like his standup and don't really find him all that funny. The ones I do watch I've already heard his guests speak or read their articles elsewhere. Joe rogan is not a hill ima die on that's for sure. Its entertainment, not news and I'm well aware of that, but he does have some interesting guests that make the news and they are free to make their points with no time constraints.
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Yeah I am not doubting it is a good listen, he is a great entertainer.

The way he trained to learn about MMA and got really into it was respectable, before that he was just that guy in news radio and the show they made people eat bugs all the time. So I try to not taint my actual enjoyment of his MMA commentary to allow him to politicize it for me. As hard as it is getting to ignore all the outside MAGA going on in the UFC, I can still enjoy the fights. If I start to combine his voice with politics, all the enjoyment will get zapped.

And his tv show was off the chart conspiracy bullshit, I had a lot of high hopes for it.

But I will try again eventually to listen to that podcast with those guys, I am sure they have a tremendous amount of very interesting things to consider, but its the political bending of science to troll peer reviewed journals that I take issue with. The attempt to tear down the importance of the universities in our nation is too obvious of an attack on our country. The work and expansion of knowledge that people get from learning the amount it takes to earn a PhD is not trivial.

And the more people that earn those levels the more opportunities it is to legitimately challenge the ideas of the people who came before you. It is about understanding the process of what those people needed to know to come up with the prevailing theories of today better than they did so you have the ability to come up with something even better.

So a couple of trolls that know enough math to design something elegant (I am guessing, I couldn't actually find their actual papers they wrote just a lot of mentions of them) in a field that is emerging due to human rights submitting their falsified data to a third rate journal (after getting notes from all the actual journals, wasting all those other PhD's time and effort to do their work for them by finding their mistakes) that published it, doesn't impress me.
 
codster25

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Fogdog said:
White people don't experience racism in the US and have no knowledge on the subject to share. They do have plenty of ignorance on the subject. That's not a rare commodity and therefore has little value.
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I would equate what you are saying to the view that change is not possible within the governing bodies and justice systems of modern day societies, based on the actions of some corrupt officials within.

As we continue to debate this topic, the more evident it becomes of the diluted thought process on both sides of the arguments/topic.
 
Fogdog

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codster25 said:
I would equate what you are saying to the view that change is not possible within the governing bodies and justice systems of modern day societies, based on the actions of some corrupt officials within.

As we continue to debate this topic, the more evident it becomes of the diluted thought process on both sides of the arguments/topic.
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We have to keep it simple when talking about racism. White people think they know enough to tell black people about it. Think about that. They haven't a clue. So, rather than dive into the details, I'll just say you have nothing to contribute on the subject.
 
codster25

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Fogdog said:
We have to keep it simple when talking about racism. White people think they know enough to tell black people about it. Think about that. They haven't a clue. So, rather than dive into the details, I'll just say you have nothing to contribute on the subject.
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I’m sorry that you feel that way. How am I not contributing to the subject? It’s obvious that you have the ability to comprehend, so why deny the points that are being made? I know you don’t actually fully believe a whole race should be blamed for the actions of some, do you?
 
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