Discontinued nutrients, Lucas guys..

OldMedUser

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Also, I’m assuming these are both start to finish, am I able to add something like big bud later on for the L aminos? I’m not sure if it makes a difference, I used it this round and have used other things in the past. I’m pretty happy with the switch to hydro, results have been pretty good, think I could do better on the second run, need to test some other nutes out though.
If you're going to do hydro why don't you get AN 3-part, some Big Bud and Rhino Skin for the silica. That's all you need other than any old CalMag and some Epsom Salts. The 3-part costs no more than any other. Works great for Lucas and never having to check the pH is a huge plus for me. Works just as good in pots full of ProMix HP too.

Just a thought.

:peace:
 

J232

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If you're going to do hydro why don't you get AN 3-part, some Big Bud and Rhino Skin for the silica. That's all you need other than any old CalMag and some Epsom Salts. The 3-part costs no more than any other. Works great for Lucas and never having to check the pH is a huge plus for me. Works just as good in pots full of ProMix HP too.

Just a thought.

:peace:
I used AN in promix for a couple years, I honestly don’t think I will use any of there bases again, I want to get away from liquid nutrients too. As far as ph, if I swing it now from 6.1 to 5.8, it would take a couple weeks of add backs before I need to add nutes to buffer or use my up/down. The AN ph perfect stuff gave me a headache, I need to have control, I never did try it in hydro though. I think I’m going to try out jacks, $100 cad shipped will cover my grow. Might look into the other stuff mentioned in that video but prob just the base, calnit and salts. I used 3 gallons of GH on Lucas formula this past time and that 1L of big bud. I’m out of bloom now so I’m done feeding this run, week 12 started today. :cry:
 

rkymtnman

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@J232 are you sure it's discontinued or just not available in CA? i find it hard to believe they stopped making it.

and to your Jacks, i'm gonna try Jacks Tap 15-5-20 when i start up again in a few weeks. supposed to work for tap/well (not RO) water.
 

J232

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I ran out of big bud awhile ago too, they prob could of used more/longer, I been light on nutes as chop is really close, still run at 1.1ec maybe 1.2, they are feeding good there even in late bloom. Test smoke I cut burns clean, so I’m cutting at 1.1, I just fed them last night again.
 

J232

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@J232 are you sure it's discontinued or just not available in CA? i find it hard to believe they stopped making it.

and to your Jacks, i'm gonna try Jacks Tap 15-5-20 when i start up again in a few weeks. supposed to work for tap/well (not RO) water.
Well, I’m just going off my goto place, he said they discontinued it almost a year ago and no online store has stock other then bigger bulk that I can see in Canada. I tried my tap water at the start of this run and it didn’t work, 270 out of my dechorinator just didn’t work on Lucas, I have a stealth 150 now and pre filters, super clean water.
 

rkymtnman

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Well, I’m just going off my goto place, he said they discontinued it almost a year ago and no online store has stock other then bigger bulk that I can see in Canada. I tried my tap water at the start of this run and it didn’t work, 270 out of my dechorinator just didn’t work on Lucas, I have a stealth 150 now and pre filters, super clean water.
Lucas is hard to beat but you def need close to 0 water.
 

GBAUTO

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I used AN in promix for a couple years, I honestly don’t think I will use any of there bases again, I want to get away from liquid nutrients too. As far as ph, if I swing it now from 6.1 to 5.8, it would take a couple weeks of add backs before I need to add nutes to buffer or use my up/down. The AN ph perfect stuff gave me a headache, I need to have control, I never did try it in hydro though. I think I’m going to try out jacks, $100 cad shipped will cover my grow. Might look into the other stuff mentioned in that video but prob just the base, calnit and salts. I used 3 gallons of GH on Lucas formula this past time and that 1L of big bud. I’m out of bloom now so I’m done feeding this run, week 12 started today. :cry:
The only thing I do extra during my grows has been to add silica to aid stem stiffness in hydro. I always ran into floppy branches and the silica helps.
I will also do a P-K boost during initial flower stretch(I have some MC BudExplosion that I substitute for the 5-12-26).
I also run Tribus Original in my rez.
 
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J232

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I googled MaxiBloom and I see no indication that it's not available.
Out of stock anywhere I look in Canada as mentioned, asked about it and was told it’s not available, discontinued. None on amazon.ca unless you want to spend 100 for a kg. I can find a 20lb bucket but I’m not doing that.
 

J232

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The only thing I do extra during my grows has been to add silica to aid stem stiffness in hydro. I always ran into floppy branches and the silica helps.
I will also do a P-K boost during initial flower stretch(I have some MC BudExplosion that I substitute for the 5-12-26).
I also run Tribus Original in my rez.
I was eye balling the tribus as well, looks pretty good.
 

J232

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i thought i read that too somewhere. a kilo bag lasts me forever anyways. but i'm curious to try this Jacks out. i'm chomping at the bit to get another run going soon jsut to see how it works
I informed the fam I was doing a back to back run, one more run will dial in the new setup, I was set on maxibloom, will be a toss up between 321 and Lucas now, I have a couple weeks before I need something.
 

rkymtnman

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Why would you do that? Lucas took the idea of one grower, and the research done by other growers, and posted it on the net with his name on it.

I was one of the growers who researched the theory and reported my results to the group. That was about 1998 in adpc.


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i know you were one of them. mine was a sarcastic response to Mick about how he used it with tap water. my original post was that it was better with 0 ppm water in that when i used it with such , my pH was dead nutz on 5.8
so no offense @potroast just keeping Mick honest
 

J232

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Did more digging, found a guy on Reddit that got ahold of GH because he was also told it’s discontinued. Sounds like they are changing the label/packaging and it will be back on the store shelf’s eventually is what he was told. I don’t know, I’m not fucking around trying to find it, I will take another quick look around my usual spots, if nothing, I will just continue Lucas on liquid or go 321.
 
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