Gemtree
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I've been helping a friend who got some and 8ml was like 800ppm and took forever to get it up to 6.0 with ph up. They must put a ton of humic acid in it or something.
Discontinued nutrients, Lucas guys..
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J232
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Alright well that’s good to know, was that on RO water as well? I’m not a fan of having to use a lot of +\- i would have to try it to know I guess.
rkymtnman
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i use that bio ag stuff i mentioned in waterfarms DTW.
i'm pretty sure i ran floranova in a sterile. the only thing organic is humics ( i think?) in it.
i was a sterile guy for many years but i think southern ag GFF is even easier and just as good.
my waterfarms get up to grow room temps (78 to 82F)
i'm pretty sure i ran floranova in a sterile. the only thing organic is humics ( i think?) in it.
i was a sterile guy for many years but i think southern ag GFF is even easier and just as good.
my waterfarms get up to grow room temps (78 to 82F)
rkymtnman
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it's been years since i ran it but i thought 4 ish mL in RO was around 1 or 1.2 EC???
J232
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Ok, yeah think it’s listed really low around 3-5% organic, I have had root floating threw the system for a month now lol.. GFF must be on the bad list in Canada, think last I looked EBAY out of the USA was my only luck. There’s a ton of products available but weeding threw it usually end with a loud sigh and closing the page lol.
Gemtree
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Yeah 8ml is like 1.7. Would probably be decent if you add silica first to bring ph up.
J232
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Both 1- and 1.7 sound like numbers I need. Early I would prob top feed a more diluted from the res.
Gemtree
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Jacks or mega is still probably way cheaper I love mixing up 30gal and it only costs like a dollar instead of a half bottle of 30 dollar liquid nutes lol
J232
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Yeah I’m on the fence still, Jacks or Lucas. I think cost wise they will be pretty close, jacks would go further though too.
My Name is Mike
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My Name is Mike
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You still using your waterfarms?
rkymtnman
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oh yeah. i modified them and run them DTW.
My Name is Mike
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Nice! I've been wanting to do similar. I'll lose stealth if I have a res outside my cab. Not big enough to put one inside. What's kept you sticking with WF instead of transitioning to a 5gal?
rkymtnman
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5 gals is what i started with a decade ago. bought a WF a few yrs ago just to try one out and loved it. then i figured out how to modify it to run DTW and haven't looked back. i can go away for 2 weeks without worrying about it which was my goal.
Keesje
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You make all the wonderful charts and comparisons.
Some people I know use a product by Yara.
https://www.yara.ie/crop-nutrition/fertiliser/soluble/yaratera-kristalon-brown/
Together with Yara Calcinit (15.5-0-0)
They use 2 parts Calcinit to 3 parts Yara Brown in bloom.
What are your thoughts about this product?
Or could you shine a light on it?
TintEastwood
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Never heard of it, but took a peek.
Here's a breakdown into PPM.
1 Gram
3 Grams
The Calcinit (their calnit)
1 Gram
2 Grams.
PPM Breakdown for both 3/2 combined.
N 109
P 17
K 207
Ca 100
Mg 19
S 16
Seems like a reasonable PPM profile.
It's a little lower in P, and higher in K than most. (high K can scare me in coco)
I don't know much about micros, just that they better be in there. lol
The low Mg is easily adjusted with epsom.
TintEastwood
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Here is the resulting NPK % Ratio based on the PPM profile.
Reflects the relatively low P, high K.
2.75 - 1 - 6.3
Reflects the relatively low P, high K.
2.75 - 1 - 6.3
Keesje
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Fun facts:
Most companies that sell a 2 or 3 part like Jack's and MegaCrop have a product like Calcinit (15.5-0-0)
They probably buy it from Yara and repack it.
Megacrop sells it for $ 1.70 per lbs.
Jack's you can buy for $ 1.30 per lbs. Jack's number is 15-0-0 instead of 15.5-0-0.
Yara is about $ 0.30 per lbs.
All retail prices.
Most companies that sell a 2 or 3 part like Jack's and MegaCrop have a product like Calcinit (15.5-0-0)
They probably buy it from Yara and repack it.
Megacrop sells it for $ 1.70 per lbs.
Jack's you can buy for $ 1.30 per lbs. Jack's number is 15-0-0 instead of 15.5-0-0.
Yara is about $ 0.30 per lbs.
All retail prices.
printer
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I WANT MY MAXIGROW/BLOOM!
Sorry, I'm having a stressful day. Just caught this thread, started one about if anyone knew when it will come back to Canada, nobody knew. I emailed GH two weeks ago and they said the approval from the Canadian government has not come through yet for the new packaging. They did not know when it would happen. Probably due to covid. I did not want to buy some expensive bottles to finish off my current grow, just using some vegetable fertilizers, the plants do not seem to mind much.
Sorry, I'm having a stressful day. Just caught this thread, started one about if anyone knew when it will come back to Canada, nobody knew. I emailed GH two weeks ago and they said the approval from the Canadian government has not come through yet for the new packaging. They did not know when it would happen. Probably due to covid. I did not want to buy some expensive bottles to finish off my current grow, just using some vegetable fertilizers, the plants do not seem to mind much.