bodhi seeds
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maurostu04
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Is there anyway to fix herms?
HaroldRocks
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Didn't Bodhi discontinue the strawberry milk dad recently? pretty sure i read that somewhere here
i hear what you're saying but man ive run so many old school strains that were so much more stable - herms happen with seeds so im ok with it happening from time to time - just part of the game - but im not gonna be quiet about it either, which you sure aren't being quiet and you sure seem to know what you're doing so im glad you're here reporting both negative and positive results....so now i know to keep a more keen eye on these dazzleberrys when they go into flower
@hillbill that's great to hear about the Bing too because i was eyeing those up - i think i'll grab them now - thanks
AdvancedBuffalo
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Yeah I’m pretty sure Bodhi shelved the Strawberry Milk dad. I’m not sure if he intends to bring it back as a worked line like the PU. I don’t think it’s special enough to warrant it IMO. I hope he focuses on other avenues.
Yeah I think the influx of herm traits is due to hype breeding. People just poly x poly things at a super high rate to find the next MAC, punch, etc. Not many breeders take the time to thoroughly vet their crosses. Breeders *cough* ethos *ahem* will also release unstable lines as “experienced growers only” level packs which doesn’t make sense.
Regarding Bodhi, I think we need to take a step back and realize that he doesn’t do much line work. I will get chewed out for saying this, but he’s basically a really large chucker with access to the best genetics available. I’m pretty sure he just does big open pollinations, one male to a room of females. Then he releases testers, looks at reports, and releases based on how he feels and feedback from testers. I wouldn’t expect any work to be put in to reduce herm traits. There really isn’t any way to know which strain herms the least, which one has X trait, etc since the pheno variation is so high. With Bodhi you will get fire, but you will also get herms and crappy plants. With that said, I think most breeders are just large scale chuckers that give themselves a little too much credit for the work the plant is doing, haha. There aren’t many who are doing real line work.
AdvancedBuffalo
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I’m sure we have all had a cross that started out as an afterthought, but quickly became a favorite. This is one of those Plants. This is Cherry Sativa x SSDD, a freebie from the drop earlier this year. I smoke tested it last night and all I can say is wow. I feel like this took all the good traits of SSDD, added a bit of uplift, improved the plant structure, and packed on the weight.
If anyone is sitting on a pack of these, pop them. The variation is pretty enormous but there is some awesome stuff to be found.
Narrow leafed pheno of the same strain. Cherry Sativa x SSDD. I haven’t tried this. Will be testing in the next few days.
Clusterfunk. The only pheno that was chem leaning and halfway decent. The rest were popcorn, leafy, annoying to grow, or way too Hashplant leaning. It was so Chem leaning that is threw a sack on a lower! I have a cut of this girl and she will be run one more time to see if the sack traits stick through cloning. One more sack or intersex sign and she dies.
Tiflis
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Add Heavenly HP to nanner list. I would've blamed my not so perfect setup, but DLA7 right next to her showed zero intersex issues. Also happened early-mid flower. Finished both, HHP was a good, smooth smoke. had to dig for terps a little, but very pleasant. I either did awesome removing those nanners or they were all sterile. Not a single seed
_mahavishnu
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Just dropping in here to say this is my absolute favorite thread in the forum, and a massive inspiration to me. Really love the even, respectful discussion all through the last 100 or so pages I’ve read to get up to date. I have one pack of Herer Hashplant I got from seedsman sitting in my drawer for probably my next indoor run. I’m doing my first ever right now with Dinafem Critical Plus 2.0 and seedsman SSH OG and WW freebies, plus a 1:1 CBD seedsman strain. Just wanna make sure I can do it right before I put these Bodhi beans through it and potentially ruin em with some newbie mistake.
Although the last few pages talking about instability in the Bodhi lines has me a little nervous lol! Regardless I was super impressed by @Hot Diggity Sog ‘s Herer Hashplant results and hope I can do the strain any similar amount of justice. Anyone else have good experiences with HHP or tips to get the most out of her when I get around to it? I’ll be working with a single sun system 315 supplemented by a shitty vipar blurple 300w, growing in ROLS (FFOF/HF with rice hulls, alfalfa/kelp/neem meal, lava rock, & build-a-flower top dress from build a soil).
Although the last few pages talking about instability in the Bodhi lines has me a little nervous lol! Regardless I was super impressed by @Hot Diggity Sog ‘s Herer Hashplant results and hope I can do the strain any similar amount of justice. Anyone else have good experiences with HHP or tips to get the most out of her when I get around to it? I’ll be working with a single sun system 315 supplemented by a shitty vipar blurple 300w, growing in ROLS (FFOF/HF with rice hulls, alfalfa/kelp/neem meal, lava rock, & build-a-flower top dress from build a soil).
Nutbag Poster
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He pretty much says what you're saying in the Potcast. When he decides that a male is worthy he pollinates his entire mother room. He then starts picking out the most interesting ones and pops a pack worth of seeds himself. If he doesn't finder a keeper worthy plant in the first try, that's the end of that cross. One keeper per pack is his minimum expectation, he says. Testing goes on from there if he finds some gold.
The only way you can really "breed out" a hermie trait from a risky mom in an F1 cross is to choose the perfect male that always dominates that trait. He's not doing a specific male selection to tame each and every risky mother, but on the other hand, he's limiting his releases to a few well-proven males. For under 50 bucks a pack (counting sales and freebies), you can't expect generations of selecting and testing. Looking into the reputations of the moms is pretty key if you're very hermie-phobic.
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HaroldRocks
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See i think it's the 88g13 male that causes that
When i ran the Tranquil Elephantizer remix years ago (another pack i grabbed in 2012), that was the first and only bodhi strain, up to that point, that i ran from seed that was a little unstable - not terribly so, but definitely unstable
and again - not every pheno will have instability, which is why some report it and some don't - but that's also not to say that you may encounter later instability issues with more runs under that strain/phenos belt
ive also never had any instability issues in any other snow lotus or appalachia crosses beyond the tranquil - so it's my belief that the 88g13 is unstable
seedy character
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@Nutbag Poster Has the right idea. Finding a male that doesn't pass on intersex traits. Thats only step one though. If you truly are determined to save a specimen for line breeding, your next few YEARS will be breeding, growing, and hard stress testing through that lines flower window. Even after you've eliminated outward expression of balls or nanners through the flower cycle, there will still be the recessive trait that most plants carry for survival. So late term nanners(typically they'll be sterile) can still show up.
Or you could win the genetic lottery and find a genomic expression from your first cross that has mutated to not want to survive and has zero intersex possibilities. In that case, congrats, you just found a golden ticket.
@Tiflis Shame that you had nanners on the HHP. Two packs here and no lil yellow bastards poked out. Harvested most at 9, a few went 10. Sometimes they can find one thing they don't like in your space and pop on out. Always rolling that dice.
HaroldRocks
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and im gonna quote you again because of your last statement, which i forgot to address
when i ran the Grandma's HP, i thought the same thing, either i did a fantastic job plucking them off, or they were sterile, because i didn't find a single seed either and i ran it 3 times before i moved on
seedy character
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@HaroldRocks 2012 isn't that old. Still could get a few of those seven to pop. Ancient OG, Pura Vida, that Elephantizer, and ASS are all strains I truly regret not picking up.
For the thread:
Bodhi may only be chucking for the most part, but we all know the great service he's providing by releasing such a wide array of genes. Especially done the way he's doing it so that the eager among us can breed and sift to find particular parental expressions. I'll take the occasional intersex issues for this opportunity without complaint.
Speaking of. Anyone want to speak out on their knowledge or thoughts on the last few insta posts from the man? That Black Afghani x Iraqi has me intrigued.
For the thread:
Bodhi may only be chucking for the most part, but we all know the great service he's providing by releasing such a wide array of genes. Especially done the way he's doing it so that the eager among us can breed and sift to find particular parental expressions. I'll take the occasional intersex issues for this opportunity without complaint.
Speaking of. Anyone want to speak out on their knowledge or thoughts on the last few insta posts from the man? That Black Afghani x Iraqi has me intrigued.
thezephyr
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The lavender cut in the bay area doesn't get much purple, just a hint at the edges of the leaves, if anything. Most people say it smells like lavender, but to me they have a musty smell which reminds me of damp moldy books that weren't stored properly. Or I might describe it as really old dried lavender that wasn't stored properly, so most of the aromatic volatile oils have already off-gassed.i just finished up my Solo's Stash pack i bought in 2013 - 3 beans left and i got 2 females, 1 that's a beast - most likely go into flower after i clone them for my next run in November - ill be sure to put up pics if it's worthy
the one i kept for a little while back when i first ran them, was pretty nice but super stretchy so i didn't hang onto it
i think lavender is called lavender because it turns purple not because it smells like it - but what the hell do i know
I didn't like growing that cut because it gets bud rot easily, and doesn't do well outdoors. The leaves and buds are very soft, which makes them extremely susceptible to damage from munching bugs. The buds also lost a lot of volume in the drying process.
I have smoked some really great lavender bud from medical dispensaries and dealers back in the day, but just didn't enjoy growing it.
I'm sure that bodhi's wookie hybrid is more vigorous and resilient, but because of my negative experiences with the original lavender cut, and the fact I don't really enjoy the smell, I haven't been super motivated to try the wookie hybrids.
AdvancedBuffalo
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Oh yeah. Hopefully I didnt come across like I was talking down on Bodhi. I really admire that he sees himself in that sort of light, rather than putting himself on some make believe pedestal like some other breeders do.
I run his stuff because I adore his passion and dedication to creating new and unique flavors and high profiles. Id rather run F1s of super unique crosses and have that uncertainty of pheno variation, rather than a line bred boring cross. May as well just buy a cut if you want an exact pheno haha.
I’ll probably only ever run Bodhi, stray, and Doc D.
Nutbag Poster
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Naw... you're right on and B would probably agree. He's for pheno-hunters and adventurers. If people want to grow one seed and get a plant that's exactly what they expected, he's probably not the breeder they want. Gotta bump up the risk a bit to get the extra rewards.
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freewanderer04
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bodhi seeds
Nute burn or heat, something is off for sure. This is how replied to me before he started trolling. thanks but i dont need that test, that plants dont recive a normal feeding was growing only for make seed and selection for stress,
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Click on the link above for my brief review of Sky Lotus
freewanderer04
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By the way, it's super easy to look up strain info on here. Just go up to the top right and click the magnifier glass. Click search this thread and then type in your keyword(s).