Covid-19
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Laughing Grass
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Article was blocked by a paywall. When your stable genius restricted 3M from shipping n95 masks to Canada he should have taken into consideration that the raw material K10S pulp is manufactured exclusively in Canada. There was an article on Toronto Star back in June that discussed how Canada blocked the mill from allowing 3m to increase order volume and diverted excess capacity to Canada's domestic need and other countries blocked from the us supply chain.
greg nr
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Stable genius is now bragging that at least he didn't kill the 2M americans forecast to die at one point. Of course he isn't done yet, and that forecast included this winter assuming we chased herd immunity. Which is exactly his plan.I could never understand why there was any mask shortage to begin with. N95 masks aren't high tech. They are a paper and nylon ply that is easily produced, then stamped into the shape of a mask. You can buy machines that will kick out thousands an hour on alibaba (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Semi-Automatic-Medical-Surgical-Non-Woven_1600094141459.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.3172cfa8D2zywF&s=p)
The same goes for nitrile gloves. They stick friggin plastic hands into a vat of molten plastic some places to make them. Not high tech.
We are printing trillions of dollars a month propping up the stock and bond markets. It wouldn't take more than a few million to make masks, or gloves, or gowns, or face shields. IF, someone wanted to.
The only explanation is obvious. It is by design, not neglect.
^^^This
raratt
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Congress allocated $1 billion to make medical supplies. It went to shipbuilding and airplane parts instead.
Early in the COVID-19 pandemic, Congress allocated trillions of dollars to address medical supply shortages, and President Trump even invoked the Defense Production Act to move U.S. contractors to make those supplies. But at least $1 billion of that money wasn't used for ventilators, masks, and...
raratt
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Missouri governor, opponent of mandatory masks, has COVID-19
Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, a Republican who has steadfastly refused to require residents to wear masks, tested positive for the coronavirus, his office said Wednesday. Parson was tested after his wife, Teresa, tested positive earlier in the day. Teresa Parson had experienced mild symptoms...
natureboygrower
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greg nr
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party hearty fools......
trib.com
Coronavirus cases surge to new highs in Wyoming; return to colleges the latest factor
Wyoming's reporting more confirmed coronavirus cases per day than ever, hospitalizations have neared all-time highs, and new cases are outstripping recoveries to a degree previously unseen here.
Laughing Grass
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Our prime minister confirmed last night what most of us already knew by looking at the data, Canada is deep in the second wave. Toronto is talking about shutting down restaurants and bars again. Trudeau brought up some good points that kinda made me feel a bit better. We're in a better position with PPE for healthcare workers and testing than we were in March and April and masks are required practically everywhere. It doesn't look like they're planning a full lock down again, at least that's what they're saying now.
We need to get serious with teens and young adults who are screwing this up for everyone else. I'm to the point that I support crippling fines and forced quarantine in jail if need be for people ignoring the gathering rules.
We need to get serious with teens and young adults who are screwing this up for everyone else. I'm to the point that I support crippling fines and forced quarantine in jail if need be for people ignoring the gathering rules.
Then again most all of us (specifically dudes) were all young and bulletproof at one point in our lives.
Human nature is difficult sometimes, especially when you already know everything there is to know.
Laughing Grass
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I was young and invincible once too. My old life was awesome and I want it back some day before I'm too old to enjoy it. I'm so sick of these crybabies whining about their individual freedoms, and selfish people who take all benefits of our society without doing anything to protect it. Slap a few people with a $10,000 fine and they'll get the message.
Singlemalt
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Yeah, sadly I agree; this is getting into DUI territory: one's personal decisions can negatively impact a host of other people.
Laughing Grass
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DUI is a great analogy!
greg nr
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If I knew then what I know now, life would have been a lot crazier and I'm not sure I would have made it.
And then there's this:
Young People More Likely to Believe Virus Misinformation, Study Says
The New York Times•September 23, 2020
Young People More Likely to Believe Virus Misinformation, Study Says
As public health officials raise alarms about surging coronavirus cases among young people, new research suggests that Americans under 25 are most likely to believe virus-related misinformation about the severity of the disease and how it originated.
In a survey of 21,196 people in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, researchers identified a clear generational divide. Respondents 18 to 24 had an 18% probability of believing a false claim, compared with 9% for those over 65, according to the study, conducted by researchers from Harvard University, Rutgers University, Northeastern University and Northwestern University.
The results diverge from past research that said older people were more likely to share false news articles on social media. Last year, a paper published in Science found that people over the age of 65 were seven times as likely as those ages 30 to 44, the youngest group included in that survey, to share articles from websites that spread false information during the 2016 presidential campaign.
In the virus study, people were questioned to gauge their acceptance of 11 false claims. Those included false claims that the virus originated in people who ate bats, that taking antibiotics protects against the disease and that only people 60 or older are at risk of being infected.
“Across the 11 false claims,” the report said, “we find a clear pattern: The older the age group, the lower the average level of belief in false claims.”
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
Laughing Grass
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F@cking kids! I've become a grouchy old curmudgeon in the past six months.And then there's this:
Young People More Likely to Believe Virus Misinformation, Study Says
The New York Times•September 23, 2020
Young People More Likely to Believe Virus Misinformation, Study Says
As public health officials raise alarms about surging coronavirus cases among young people, new research suggests that Americans under 25 are most likely to believe virus-related misinformation about the severity of the disease and how it originated.
In a survey of 21,196 people in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, researchers identified a clear generational divide. Respondents 18 to 24 had an 18% probability of believing a false claim, compared with 9% for those over 65, according to the study, conducted by researchers from Harvard University, Rutgers University, Northeastern University and Northwestern University.
The results diverge from past research that said older people were more likely to share false news articles on social media. Last year, a paper published in Science found that people over the age of 65 were seven times as likely as those ages 30 to 44, the youngest group included in that survey, to share articles from websites that spread false information during the 2016 presidential campaign.
In the virus study, people were questioned to gauge their acceptance of 11 false claims. Those included false claims that the virus originated in people who ate bats, that taking antibiotics protects against the disease and that only people 60 or older are at risk of being infected.
“Across the 11 false claims,” the report said, “we find a clear pattern: The older the age group, the lower the average level of belief in false claims.”
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
I don't trust polls published by news organizations. I'd like to see the underlying data, especially socioeconomic data. I wonder if they believe whatever narrative allows them to go out and party with their friends.
I do have empathy for them. This is probably really hard for them mentally and I'm sure it seems unfair, but It is what it is and we're all in it together like it or not. I don't think history will look back kindly on those that chose this time to be selfish.
Parents knowingly sent child to school with COVID-19, forcing 29 students to quarantine
Attleboro Mayor Paul Heroux said it was “egregious” and “reckless” for the parents to send their child knowing they were infected with the virus.
www.usatoday.com
Singlemalt
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I'm almost certain; in the kids' "defense" even older folks tend to support that which agrees with their wants/desires/position and reject that that counters their position. However, hubris has a way of paying one back in spades: scientists suspect long term cardio/pulmonary damage even in mild cases.
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www.nytimes.com
As Virus Cases Surge in Europe, Hospitalizations Lag. But for How Long? (Published 2020)
For now, countries are betting they can suppress hospital admissions and deaths without imposing more lockdowns, even as case numbers approach peak levels from last spring.