Countdown to Apocolypse

[Dankdude]

No, I did not read all that, I don't need a dictionary wall of text, Dank, thanks.

I know exactly what neo-conservatives are, and I am not one, you cannot conclude I am one either, you are trying to lump me in that category which I consider is derogatory. Neo-conservatives are republicans who dare tread closer to the other line, which I do not. I believe in smaller government, more states rights, and less taxes. I also believe in a strong military and and less infringement on the constitution. With those attributes, consider me what you will.

The most hilarious part is, I didn't really defend John McCain that much. What I did was try to dispel all the bullshit everyone was saying about Palin. My primary choice for the republican nomination was Huckabee, and it is true that McCain is the most liberal of all the republican nominees. So, in essence, I voted for McCain because I was forced to, the other option was too appalling for me to even fathom.

Being a Conservative you up hold to being a strict constitutionalist Right?
Did you know that your boy Huckabee said as part of his platform that he wanted to change the constitution to match God's laws?

This in essence would make this country into a theocracy, it would be no better than the Taliban.

you still didn't address what I said about experiance.

anyway back to my $50K a year job.

 

[1puff2puff3puff]

Can someone tell me how someone with a full blood African father be 13 % black and 42 % arib.... or whatever your shady statistics say....... Just stupid!!!

 

[puffdamagikdragon]

It is bullshit, 2puff. They know it, why they havent' come back and address the demands for a credible source. And they won't find one, and MAYBE they will learn to think for themselves rather than believe every bit of propaganda that gets sent to them....... But I doubt it. It would require a freedom of mind they obviously don't have.....

 

[1puff2puff3puff]

WELL SAID!!!!

It is bullshit, 2puff. They know it, why they havent' come back and address the demands for a credible source. And they won't find one, and MAYBE they will learn to think for themselves rather than believe every bit of propaganda that gets sent to them....... But I doubt it. It would require a freedom of mind they obviously don't have.....

 

[puffdamagikdragon]

All these people fearing a new world order must not read much history. The world has done nothing but change since the beginning. I doubt some new stepford world is right around the corner.

So if they make this North America Union, will we all have univerasl health care like Canada? Will the marijuana laws be slacked up like Canada? Who is going to run this shebang and what are the leaders of the other countries going to do, just go quietly into the night? I think it's not so cut and dried.

Actually, with thier unrealistic ideology, the right (Republican party) is pushing for a Stepford-like existance, what with wanting women to stay at home and only have the babies they allow, with wanting everyone to go to church and praise their God (and thier God ONLY), make sure there is a division of the economic classes so that only the rich can be and stay rich, and the poor are to 'know there place'(along with minorities), and so forth.

I ain't gonna touch the NAU, but I don't think that universal heath care is a bad thing (and this is coming from someone in the medical profession, btw), not when I have a friend whose daughter may die at any minute, but fucking HMO won't pay for her surgery and they are too poor to afford it outside of insurance paying for it, so they wake up every morning not knowing if thier daughter (has an enlarged heart) even made it thru the nite.....

Ok, need to get off this before I get really mad....

 

[ZenMaster]

I just like to make internet tough guys cry, it's easier than you think !!!

Yeah he thought calling me a bitch was some kind of insult, I'm the bitch they invented the word for !!!

How am I an internet tough guy again, was I the one claiming to make so much more money than everyone else, that I'm 6'9 250lb and a master of every martial art?

And I'm glad you acknowledge youre a bitch, but I think its funny if you think you can actually get to me. Listen babe, you are not even a blimp on my radar, so don't think you're worthless words have any kind of affect, they are just temporarily amusing me.

 

[ZenMaster]

Being a Conservative you up hold to being a strict constitutionalist Right?
Did you know that your boy Huckabee said as part of his platform that he wanted to change the constitution to match God's laws?

This in essence would make this country into a theocracy, it would be no better than the Taliban.

you still didn't address what I said about experiance.

anyway back to my $50K a year job.

No, I did not get the memo that I had to be a strict constitutionalist, like libertarians. Though I do agree with much they stand for however my biggest problem with like Ron Paul was his foreign policy. I will admit that we should be a little more isolationist than we are currently, however his immediate Iraq withdrawal is vastly flawed.

And what do you want to know about experience? Obama has none? 3 years in the senate vs McCain's 20. Do you know how many times McCain was reelected? We don't really know much about Obama and he hasn't had an opportunity to mess up. After all the ridiculous heat liberals through on Palin, they really couldn't pull up half the crap on McCain, who has been on the table much longer. Kind of interesting.

 

[joepro]

Did you know that your boy Huckabee said as part of his platform that he wanted to change the constitution to match God's laws?

This in essence would make this country into a theocracy, it would be no

I liked huckabee stance intill he said gods law should be writin into law.
I'm might have even supported him, intill that came out.
It was a hard election pick for any republican supporters.
The party was all over the map this time. while it was really easy for the democrats...all they wanted as a none republican.

 

[joepro]

my biggest problem with like Ron Paul was his foreign policy. I will admit that we should be a little more isolationist than we are currently, however his immediate Iraq withdrawal is vastly flawed.

Us being in iraq is the 10,000 lb elephant in the room.
Iraq wants us out, the american people want us out.. and paul would have done so. No more policing the world was pauls stance, and I 100% agree.
...It's not working, so why prolong it. smiply moving the war isn't good enough either. I don't want to see american troops on the pakistan border where they are about to go.

 

[ZenMaster]

Reading Between the Lines: Post, Tribune: Is Obama really African-American?

Every ancestor on his father's side has an Arabic name, because his father was officially classified as "Arab African" by the Kenyan government.
100% African tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father's decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to ethnically separate from the African tribes. Researching his roots reveal that on his father's side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region. Funny how circular is history; now the British again face the Madhi Army, albeit this time Shiite, not Sunni, as in nineteenth century Sudan.



Take it for what you will. I'm the first person to say it doesn't matter, I have no idea why you people are getting to uptight about it, I carelessly through that 13% black or whatever as a joke about 10 pages back. So whatever

 

[ZenMaster]

Us being in iraq is the 10,000 lb elephant in the room.
Iraq wants us out, the american people want us out.. and paul would have done so. No more policing the world was pauls stance, and I 100% agree.
...It's not working, so why prolong it. smiply moving the war isn't good enough either. I don't want to see american troops on the pakistan border where they are about to go.

Its not that simple. I wish it was that simple because then there would be no problems. We can't leave just yet, they aren't ready. If we just immediately pulled out now then the last 5 years would be worthless.

Its actually calmed down vastly over there, 14 U.S. casualties for last month. It isn't a hot war zone some people have it played out. Again, I agree that we need to stop policing the world however we are in this mess now and we have to deal with it accordingly.

 

[joepro]

Its not that simple. I wish it was that simple because then there would be no problems. We can't leave just yet, they aren't ready. If we just immediately pulled out now then the last 5 years would be worthless.

Its actually calmed down vastly over there, 14 U.S. casualties for last month. It isn't a hot war zone some people have it played out. Again, I agree that we need to stop policing the world however we are in this mess now and we have to deal with it accordingly.

have you not seen the rest of the world pull out?
Sorry friend, but the last 5 years have been worthless.
only 14 americans dead in the last month is a debate?
I say it's 14 to meny!..and for no reason.
I'm afraid we have become the enemy that we fear.

 

[ZenMaster]

have you not seen the rest of the world pull out?
Sorry friend, but the last 5 years have been worthless.
only 14 americans dead in the last month is a debate?
I say it's 14 to meny!..and for no reason.
I'm afraid we have become the enemy that we fear.

Yes, I am afraid we have become the enemy that we fear. We are now a people who is afraid of the evils of the world. Before America was there to stand against tyranny and oppression, and now you say that is just a waste of time.

 

[joepro]

Yes, I am afraid we have become the enemy that we fear. We are now a people who is afraid of the evils of the world. Before America was there to stand against tyranny and oppression, and now you say that is just a waste of time.

a war against tyranny and oppression, that's half of the world.
..and a half ass excuse. but let's say, it's true and where here to fight evil.
The constitution forbidding these actions, should play a small roll, don't you think? The american people are dead against it, are they not? outside of Israel, blackwater groups..and you, who eles wants us in the middle east?
.....we have made things only worse; as our forefathers stated .
Smart guys, ever hear of them?

jordan, turkey, syria, yemen, iran, hell even greece has no fear
but a half a world away they linger like ghost and must be stopped at all cost?

 

[ZenMaster]

a war against tyranny and oppression, that's half of the world.
..and a half ass excuse. but let's say, it's true and where here to fight evil.
The constitution forbidding these actions, should play a small roll, don't you think? The american people are dead against it, are they not? outside of Israel, blackwater groups..and you, who eles wants us in the middle east?
.....we have made things only worse; as our forefathers stated .
Smart guys, ever hear of them?

jordan, turkey, syria, yemen, iran, hell even greece has no fear
but a half a world away they linger like ghost and must be stopped at all cost?

The constitution forbids those actions? Could you define where?

I did not say I want to be in there, but we are so we have to deal with it. We did not go to Iraq to free the Iraqies, we went to remove Hussein from power and now that is done, we are helping the people have a better country. You may think thats worthless, but thats your opinion.

Why did you lump Greece in that list? I been there, and there are a bunch of palestinians there but the government is not oppressing.

We are not going to stop them at all costs unless they prove they are a threat. Smart idea, ever heard of it?

 

[misshestermoffitt]

Bush went after Saddam because and I quote "he tried to kill my father". He stood in front of the press and even said that. It was a family vendetta, like the Hatfields and McCoys. The rest of us just get to go along with the ride, how fun.

 

[smppro]

Yes, I am afraid we have become the enemy that we fear. We are now a people who is afraid of the evils of the world. Before America was there to stand against tyranny and oppression, and now you say that is just a waste of time.

LOL i dont think we are afraid of the evils of the world but the evil of our own country, our citizens have been afraid of their own government for the last 8yrs, sound familiar? Im glad we elected Obama so we dont have to be liberated. Maybe without Bush we wont fear ourselves as the enemy.

 

[ViRedd]

No matter what you all think or say.... HE IS STILL YOUR PRESIDENT!!! Bitch all you want it doesnt chaange anything..... and with the state of the US as it stands, it can only get better from here..... he definately cant do any worse than the last 8 years.... Sad you all are so afraid of change.....BUT ITS HERE!!!

That's what they said right after FDR took the helm from Hoover.

Zen ... You and maybe one or two others are the only ones making any sense in this thread. Don't let the "Useful Idiots" get to ya man ...

Vi

 

[natrone23]

13% black lol, TBT also made the claim that obama is 7/16 arab.........wheres your source, where are you getting your info, I asked TBT to source his info.........but he ignored it because you know why? because you guys get your info from right wing bigots blogs and websites

I still havent got a credible source on this ZEN?.........How many other things do you guys just makeup to scare the rest of the Xenophobic Americans. If any of your arguments had any credibility, you wouldn't have to make shit up.

 

[NorthwestBuds]

I still havent got a credible source on this ZEN?.........How many other things do you guys just makeup to scare the rest of the Xenophbic americans

natrone,

I too have made several statements here that were completely ignored because the internet bully du Jour refused to recognize it. If I make a mistake I will admit it. For some people this is impossible. Anyway being ignored here is a complement to you by the flame warriors.