3 weeks into my first grow...help!

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Tbon

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Hello everyone!
I have been having some struggles with my ladies lately. I have two previous threads on them where I adjusted the PH and watering schedule. I am using FFOF soil without 25% perlite because I had found that out after I had planted them. The top dressing of new FFOF now has 25% perlite and a feeding/watering schedule of just plain RO water at 6.5ph; I have not given them any nutes so far. They have recently developed what looks like black tips on only the new growth; with a slower growth rate. I was wondering if anyone knew what this could be! I would love to get them back being happy!
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MintyDreadlocks

MintyDreadlocks

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Looks like overwatering. Makes sense based on your details.

You can't really have a set schedule to water. You water them only when they need it. So if you're watering before the pots have time to dry out a bit than that is your problem
 
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Tbon

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Would overwatering cause the discolored tips? I don’t have a set schedule for watering just once the top of the soil is dry to the first knuckle and I also lift them up to feel how heavy they are. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are still being overwatered I just want to be sure that is what’s causing the issue because I thought I had been under watering once they had gotten a bit larger and the soil was a bit too dry.
 
Maggs707

Maggs707

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Tbon said:
Hello everyone!
I have been having some struggles with my ladies lately. I have two previous threads on them where I adjusted the PH and watering schedule. I am using FFOF soil without 25% perlite because I had found that out after I had planted them. The top dressing of new FFOF now has 25% perlite and a feeding/watering schedule of just plain RO water at 6.5ph; I have not given them any nutes so far. They have recently developed what looks like black tips on only the new growth; with a slower growth rate. I was wondering if anyone knew what this could be! I would love to get them back being happy!
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pH fluctuation can cause black tips. It's not a symptom of overwatering that I'm aware of. Check your pH every time you water. That lower leaf that's yellowing would point to some type of deficiency/lockout as well. Maybe Phosphorous (just a guess). P gets locked out at a pH of 6 or lower.
 
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Tbon

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Maggs707 said:
pH fluctuation can cause black tips. It's not a symptom of overwatering that I'm aware of. Check your pH every time you water. That lower leaf that's yellowing would point to some type of deficiency/lockout as well. Maybe Phosphorous (just a guess). P gets locked out at a pH of 6 or lower.
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Thank you! I just upped the ph from 6 to 6.5 because I thought it was getting on the lower side! Is there a way to help avoid this from getting worse or do I just continue to use ph water of 6.5 and let them run their course!? Thanks again!
 
HydroKid239

HydroKid239

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What do you do with the run off that comes from watering?
Tbon said:
Hello everyone!
I have been having some struggles with my ladies lately. I have two previous threads on them where I adjusted the PH and watering schedule. I am using FFOF soil without 25% perlite because I had found that out after I had planted them. The top dressing of new FFOF now has 25% perlite and a feeding/watering schedule of just plain RO water at 6.5ph; I have not given them any nutes so far. They have recently developed what looks like black tips on only the new growth; with a slower growth rate. I was wondering if anyone knew what this could be! I would love to get them back being happy!
Thank you so much for the help!View attachment 4734770View attachment 4734771
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ApoPNW

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I recently got some clones that were in some heavy soil and were staying wet too long. They weren't ready but I transplanted anyway, with probably a little extra perlite and they're doin great now (after my lacewings take care of some aphids) make sure your pots are pretty dry first.
 
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Tiny2x2

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I seriously think people over think growing “weed”. Just calm down and let it do it’s thing. Nothing is necessarily WRONG. it may not be PERFECTLY right. But it’s ok. The main thing about growing “weed” is. Just don’t feck it up bro. And every now and then stop smoking “weed” and analyze the situation from a different perspective. It ain’t yeller yet. Peace and love and Jesus brother.
 
Prescott480

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Tiny2x2 said:
I seriously think people over think growing “weed”. Just calm down and let it do it’s thing. Nothing is necessarily WRONG. it may not be PERFECTLY right. But it’s ok. The main thing about growing “weed” is. Just don’t feck it up bro. And every now and then stop smoking “weed” and analyze the situation from a different perspective. It ain’t yeller yet. Peace and love and Jesus brother.
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Very well put and I can't over state this enough. I think there's a narrative here where you have to pump a billion watts and you have to feed them enough nutrients to kill off a medium elephant. Realistically in most cases you should be able to grow just by leaving them outside and giving them water. The reasoning for all of the additional items is to supplement or enhance the grow. I generally like to suggest a simple first grow with minimal, or no nutes if possible, and just add water when needed. If something happens then it will probably be environment and that can be fixed before dumping lights and nutes at these girls.
 
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Maggs707

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Tbon said:
Thank you! I just upped the ph from 6 to 6.5 because I thought it was getting on the lower side! Is there a way to help avoid this from getting worse or do I just continue to use ph water of 6.5 and let them run their course!? Thanks again!
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You could flush the pots (when they're ready for water). Check (pH) your runoff next time you water/feed and see where it's at.
 
Maggs707

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Tbon said:
Thank you! I will definitely transplant them soon!
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If you try and transplant them before they fill those pots out, you run the risk of causing worse problems for yourself. A. The root mass and all the dirt around it will just crumble and you'll be left holding a bunch of loose roots, which will probably all but kill the plant. B. There will be too much dirt for the small root system and the pots will never dry out properly which leads to root Rot and damping off. General rule of thumb would be to at least wait until you see roots poking out of the drainage holes before you transplant.
 
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Tbon

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Maggs707 said:
If you try and transplant them before they fill those pots out, you run the risk of causing worse problems for yourself. A. The root mass and all the dirt around it will just crumble and you'll be left holding a bunch of loose roots, which will probably all but kill the plant. B. There will be too much dirt for the small root system and the pots will never dry out properly which leads to root Rot and damping off. General rule of thumb would be to at least wait until you see roots poking out of the drainage holes before you transplant.
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Okay great! Thank you!
 
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Tbon

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Prescott480 said:
Very well put and I can't over state this enough. I think there's a narrative here where you have to pump a billion watts and you have to feed them enough nutrients to kill off a medium elephant. Realistically in most cases you should be able to grow just by leaving them outside and giving them water. The reasoning for all of the additional items is to supplement or enhance the grow. I generally like to suggest a simple first grow with minimal, or no nutes if possible, and just add water when needed. If something happens then it will probably be environment and that can be fixed before dumping lights and nutes at these girls.
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Thank you for the help!
 
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Jumpin Jimmy

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Hey buddy..fox farm ocean forest is great stuff and has plenty of food so good choice by not feeding. You won’t need to for a long time. That soil has a good ph and I’ve never had issue. Too much moisture too often can be your issue here. Ditch the heat mat also. Not sure how warm you got those roots but I’ve seen plants up and you yellow from root damage without drooping leaves. Too many guys obsess over ph and have no real understanding of it. You’re not going to change that soil ph very easily with your water. Ocean forest has ph buffers. The water going in will adjust to the soil ph..not the other way around unless you’re watering with pond water that came from Chernobyl. How much water goes into the cup when you water? How dry do you let it get? For future transplant, add that extra perlite or blend the ocean forest with promix. I recommend you add a tablespoon of dolomite lime (pulverized) per gallon of soil to ensure longevity of ph buffering of soil for plants. Btw..I haven’t checked checked ph of anything in years and my garden is always happy and healthy. Don’t waste your time complicating things and being a ph chaser like so many others. Make a good mix and focus on more productive things than being paranoid about a ph. It’s holding a lot of growers back
 
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