CO2

Weedvin

Weedvin

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paparov said:
It's not a particular fertilizer that produces CO2. CO2 levels are increasing because of the breaking down process by fungi, bacteria and other microorganisms. Their actions produce CO2, much of it. Sorry for putting it that way, but for anyone who is interested type in Google search: malted barley fresh mixed soil crazy co2 rates.

I put a new batch of soil mix in my room which has no exhaust fan - just oscilating fans inside the room and a 20 pound CO2 bottle connected to a controller. In 12 hours CO2 levels increased from 700 to 2300 PPM. I have to open the door more regularly to vent the room and drop the PPM. I have been using the same CO2 pound bottle for ~1 year growing autoflowers. Organic soil mixes + CGE for the win. Naturally as the plants are growing and consuming more CO2 the levels will be dropping. If I could I would install an exhaust fan in my room, the first few weeks levels of the gas are too high and I have to open the door regularly.
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When I see the co2 meter Todays ppm @ 1:00 pm was 1585. I don't care how when or why it's happening I'll let others to debate why ✓✓✌
I've been Composting for 45 years. I've My own recipe called CPR COMPOST POTVINS' RECIPIE. If you haven't used the 5-10-10 fertilizer, what bases is your arguments ? I'm using it's LOL When I've information /growing. I'll SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE, Use it or loose it.
Although there Autos, @ 20 days.
 

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PadawanWarrior

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Weedvin said:
When I see the co2 meter Todays ppm @ 1:00 pm was 1585. I don't care how when or why it's happening I'll let others to debate why ✓✓✌
I've been Composting for 45 years. I've My own recipe called CPR COMPOST POTVINS' RECIPIE. If you haven't used the 5-10-10 fertilizer, what bases is your arguments ? I'm using it's LOL When I've information /growing. I'll SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE, Use it or loose it.
Although there Autos, @ 20 days.
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Where's the link to this 5-10-10?
 
swedsteven

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Weedvin said:
When I see the co2 meter Todays ppm @ 1:00 pm was 1585. I don't care how when or why it's happening I'll let others to debate why ✓✓✌
I've been Composting for 45 years. I've My own recipe called CPR COMPOST POTVINS' RECIPIE. If you haven't used the 5-10-10 fertilizer, what bases is your arguments ? I'm using it's LOL When I've information /growing. I'll SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE, Use it or loose it.
Although there Autos, @ 20 days.
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We want the link plz again.
Sa aideraient beaucoup monde ici un ptit lien !
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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Hate to take away from a good product here. But $266.20 per kilo, for what's effectively 1kg x organic matter and nitrogen, seems a bit rich doesn't it?
Who's to say you can't mix the same plant materials together yourself and reach the same carbon / nitrogen ratio as Active 5-10-10?
Just throwing it out there.
$266.20 per kg is outrageously expensive for what the product realistically is. Nothing state of the art about it, in my very honest opinion.
An analogy might be the comparison of the difference in effectiveness and price between bottled synthetic nutrients and whole salts form. Both achieve the same goal, but price is so much different.

I realize too, that for organic matter to be healthy soil, then parent material is important. Because besides local environment, parent material is introducing specific forms of life as well, plus carbon. For example veganics vs conventional, the microbiology would vary slightly.

Just my 2cents worth here.
Besides your own local environment and it's own source of parent material. What's stopping you from replicating exactly the same product, by sourcing the same ingredients and making it yourself. If all your CO2 gas is the result of decomposition and microbial activity?
I'd also argue it's your own controlled local environment causing the high CO2. Not Active 5-10-10.
"Active 5-10-10" even suggests this in it's own product name...
$266.20 / kg seems ridiculous for something which is essentially just a mix of green and brown matter..
 
Weedvin

Weedvin

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Aussieaceae said:
Hate to take away from a good product here. But $266.20 per kilo, for what's effectively 1kg x organic matter and nitrogen, seems a bit rich doesn't it?
Who's to say you can't mix the same plant materials together yourself and reach the same carbon / nitrogen ratio as Active 5-10-10?
Just throwing it out there.
$266.20 per kg is outrageously expensive for what the product realistically is. Nothing state of the art about it, in my very honest opinion.
An analogy might be the comparison of the difference in effectiveness and price between bottled synthetic nutrients and whole salts form. Both achieve the same goal, but price is so much different.

I realize too, that for organic matter to be healthy soil, then parent material is important. Because besides local environment, parent material is introducing specific forms of life as well, plus carbon. For example veganics vs conventional, the microbiology would vary slightly.

Just my 2cents worth here.
Besides your own local environment and it's own source of parent material. What's stopping you from replicating exactly the same product, by sourcing the same ingredients and making it yourself. If all your CO2 gas is the result of decomposition and microbial activity?
I'd also argue it's your own controlled local environment causing the high CO2. Not Active 5-10-10.
"Active 5-10-10" even suggests this in it's own product name...
$266.20 / kg seems ridiculous for something which is essentially just a mix of green and brown matter..
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8 buy it 2#'s at a time. It'll last me through at least 10 grows/ Autos. For just green and brown matter ( kind of disrespectful towards science ??) But I'm all in✓✓✌
 

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Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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Weedvin said:
8 buy it 2#'s at a time. It'll last me through at least 10 grows/ Autos. For just green and brown matter ( kind of disrespectful towards science ??) But I'm all in✓✓✌
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Not being disrespectful to the science at all, in theory. Only applying it.

But as I said, it's not to take away from the product's own effectiveness as well, your plant's own environment, or your own skills as a grower. ✌

Your plants look healthy and great!

Edit: my bad too, 20kg for $266.20, not per kg. 1kg = free shipping. (lol)
Still though, $13 / kg isn't cheap at all...
 
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Weedvin

Weedvin

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Aussieaceae said:
Not being disrespectful to the science at all, in theory. Only applying it.

But as I said, it's not to take away from the product's own effectiveness as well, your plant's own environment, or your own skills as a grower. ✌

Your plants look healthy and great!
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So cool, thanksThese Orange Bud auto flowers were fed only once. The dry ingredients was hydrated with 5-10-10.
 

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swedsteven

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Aussieaceae said:
Hate to take away from a good product here. But $266.20 per kilo, for what's effectively 1kg x organic matter and nitrogen, seems a bit rich doesn't it?
Who's to say you can't mix the same plant materials together yourself and reach the same carbon / nitrogen ratio as Active 5-10-10?
Just throwing it out there.
$266.20 per kg is outrageously expensive for what the product realistically is. Nothing state of the art about it, in my very honest opinion.
An analogy might be the comparison of the difference in effectiveness and price between bottled synthetic nutrients and whole salts form. Both achieve the same goal, but price is so much different.

I realize too, that for organic matter to be healthy soil, then parent material is important. Because besides local environment, parent material is introducing specific forms of life as well, plus carbon. For example veganics vs conventional, the microbiology would vary slightly.

Just my 2cents worth here.
Besides your own local environment and it's own source of parent material. What's stopping you from replicating exactly the same product, by sourcing the same ingredients and making it yourself. If all your CO2 gas is the result of decomposition and microbial activity?
I'd also argue it's your own controlled local environment causing the high CO2. Not Active 5-10-10.
"Active 5-10-10" even suggests this in it's own product name...
$266.20 / kg seems ridiculous for something which is essentially just a mix of green and brown matter..
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Bro you misread $266.20/44lb still expensif

Not so much in it

Protein hydrolyzate ,rock phosphat and potassium sulfate
 
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Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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swedsteven said:
Bro you misread $266.20/44lb still expensif
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Hilarious yeah, i know! :dunce:
My math = bad lol.

Was literally correcting myself as you posted this. I stand corrected.

But still far too pricey for my liking. Can't fault the product's usefulness itself though.
 
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