Bubble hash

myke

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Im a week away from harvest,dreading the trimming.I understand you dont need to dry the product you freeze it is this true?
Ill be shopping for bags this week,I read some of you only use certain ones/sizes.Im sure ill have more questions ,ive just started watching videos.
 

myke

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Fresh frozen Material will work. Or crispy dry. Use temperature And water as solvent, the less you Aggitate the better. And when you do stir. Easy strokes. No power stirs. I love hash! Like anything the better quality going in. Better coming out. I like to use bud. Maybe the smallest ones.
I have left over from last years crops,should work.I guess its going in the freezer.Thanks.
 

Johiem

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Fresh frozen Material will work. Or crispy dry. Use temperature And water as solvent, the less you Aggitate the better. And when you do stir. Easy strokes. No power stirs. I love hash! Like anything the better quality going in. Better coming out. I like to use bud. Maybe the smallest ones.
I thought agitation was the point. They have washing machines that beat the hell out of the material. Even dry sifting you still shake the shit out of it.
 

green_machine_two9er

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I thought agitation was the point. They have washing machines that beat the hell out of the material. Even dry sifting you still shake the shit out of it.
The washing machines used hardly beat it. They are the sameness machines used in Asia mostly for delicate baby's cloths. And even then the purest products come with the fiest few runs useong nothing but time, controlled temperature. And gravity. That's it. A slight wash or stir is helpful after first run.

Some of the impressive people I see even argue against too much ice because the jagged edges can break off chlorophyll And plant matter along with trichomes. Making hash is an art. And I think full melt hash is a rare thing because the majority of people making it are beating the hell oit of it. Sure that's fine for a giant ball of greenish dark brown stuff. But my hash looks like white beach sand and from sandy dry can be pressed into silly putty consistsncy.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Keep talking please. Bubble wash machine and a few trial batches to be initiated here. Running buds for now. Froze and dried with short cure. Like to hear micron preferences and what to do with the lesser grade stuff. The whole deal if you are willing. Hoping to make rosin from the hash.
 

kratos015

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Im a week away from harvest,dreading the trimming.I understand you dont need to dry the product you freeze it is this true?
Ill be shopping for bags this week,I read some of you only use certain ones/sizes.Im sure ill have more questions ,ive just started watching videos.
Half truth. Only certain bags will give good quality product, others will be trash, and others will be cooking grade. I run an 8 bag and use all 8 bags. Using every bag is key to getting the coveted full-melt/"Ice-wax"

Keep in mind, different strains have different sized resin glands. So while the "money bag/full-melt" on one strain will be the 90µ, on another strain it might be the 73µ strain. I've had some batches where the 120µ is the full-melt.

220 is your work bag.
190 is typically trash.
160 is cooking grade.
120 is not quite full melt, but definitely better than cooking grade. Will be full-melt with some strains.
90 or 73 will typically be your full melt. Whichever of the two doesn't produce full melt will typically be a step above the 120 bag.
45 is just a step above cooking grade. Smokeable, and with decent flavor even, but not quite as good as your 73-120µ bags.
25 is mostly dirt, but with enough resin glands in it to warrant cooking with it.

I typically combine the 25, 45, and 160µ hash and use it for edibles, tinctures, topicals, etc.

The 73, 90, and 120 is what's worth all the time and effort.



I mostly run hash now due to the same thing you pointed out, trimming sucks. One thing when I was just in a tent only trimming 1-2lbs every harvest. Trimming outdoor harvests of 15+ lbs? I'm never doing that shit again. Only dry/trim the best and easiest nugs and I turn the rest into hash.

If you're running trim from trimming your buds, then yes you'll have to throw the trim into bags (I use trash bags) and freeze them.

The idea behind freezing your material is two-fold: first its to make the resin glands more "brittle" and secondly its to freeze the chlorophyll so as to avoid contamination.

However, I run fresh buds so its a little different for me. After removing fan leaves from the entire plant, I remove each branch one by one. Buds, sugar leaf, and all get tossed into my work bag until its full. Then I agitate. If you run the material immediately upon harvesting, the chlorophyll will still be alive, so it won't end up in your final product and therefore won't need to freeze. Because of this, you can be a little more aggressive with your agitation process

Running fresh also provides the best quality flavor. The hash itself will be dried and cured, so doing so with the bud is a bit redundant.

Have a pump sprayer filled with ice water handy, spray each bag before spooning out the hash. Sometimes things don't go all the way through the screen. You don't want 120µ in your 90 or 73µ hash, or you won't get full melt.

I agitate and dump into the bags 4-5 times, breaking apart the buds in between each wash to ensure I extract as much as possible.

When finished, I dump the contents of the work bag into 1g ice cream tubs and use Everclear to get anything left over. Little extra cooking grade out of the deal. Waste not, want not.

I let the material sit in the bucket for a few days to ensure all the alcohol has evaporated, then dump into the compost pile.

I'll be doing this with 20g bags and trash cans next year. Total pain in the ass doing this in small batches, but sure beats trimming!

And besides, with how amazing full-melt from living soil is I just can't go back to flower. The flavor is extraordinary.
 

V256.420

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I just bought the same thing. With 5 bags tho. 220, 160, 120, 73 and 25. Played with it a few days ago. Works pretty good. I'm thinking I need a 5 gallon bucket with a big hole in the bottom that I can put inside of another 5 gallon bucket so all the water can flow out of the bags and bucket into the bottom bucket. Might make things a little easier and less wet while pulling bags out.
 

myke

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Yeah watching videos and what was said above by kratos you need a sink. I’ll be doing it in my garage so your idea may work. I’ll just run my garden hose in and a big garbage can to hold the rinse water.
 

HydroKid239

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I just bought the same thing. With 5 bags tho. 220, 160, 120, 73 and 25. Played with it a few days ago. Works pretty good. I'm thinking I need a 5 gallon bucket with a big hole in the bottom that I can put inside of another 5 gallon bucket so all the water can flow out of the bags and bucket into the bottom bucket. Might make things a little easier and less wet while pulling bags out.
Drill a hole in the bottom of the bucket and screw a spout in with a couple washers. Do it on a table and place a trash can below to catch the water. Easy peasy.
edit... the hole goes in the 5 gal bucket on the bottom.
 

HydroKid239

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Don't you want to keep your screens wet?
Best to do it with a partner honestly imo. You are driving towards a very valid point. The bags have to be cleaned ASAP when you finish collecting. Letting it dry will clog the screen. Haven’t googled how to fix that. Probably includes boiling them or letting them sit in boiling water.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Best to do it with a partner honestly imo. You are driving towards a very valid point. The bags have to be cleaned ASAP when you finish collecting. Letting it dry will clog the screen. Haven’t googled how to fix that. Probably includes boiling them or letting them sit in boiling water.
Have yet tu plug my washer in. But I plan on having a tote or 5 full of cold water for after my scrape. Not sure how the bags react to acetone. Got a few extra to see. Years of resin removal from glass and surfaces.

I would also think more ice, less water in the machine. 3 gallons in 5 gal bucket thought. Just gathering insight nd questioning mine out loud. TY.
 

myke

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Have yet tu plug my washer in. But I plan on having a tote or 5 full of cold water for after my scrape. Not sure how the bags react to acetone. Got a few extra to see. Years of resin removal from glass and surfaces.

I would also think more ice, less water in the machine. 3 gallons in 5 gal bucket thought. Just gathering insight nd questioning mine out loud. TY.
The guy that sold me the machine said more water then ice.He did say water needs to be super cold so easy to do with winter here.
 

MICHI-CAN

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The guy that sold me the machine said more water then ice.He did say water needs to be super cold so easy to do with winter here.
I'm new to the bubble game. Dry sift forever. My brain is a kaleidoscope of facts and videos after 5 weeks research.

I'm doing below freezing wash outdoors. Soon. MI.. Only using dry cured bud. First step to good rosin. I am adding 2 cups crushed dry ice to my washer water per batch. 5 gallons. Extra cold. And a handful in my drain bucket. Just over thought attempts at below freezing processing. But open to questions and experienced input. TY all.
 
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