Tri-leaf seedling.

MintyDreadlocks

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If I remove this fan leaf, and foster care for it as a plant ; it produces bud at the petiole apex and I treat with STS - will the progeny exhibit this?
Damn that is gnarly. I Didn't know u were dealing with mutations as well right now. That is a sick one to have i've seen it in my buddies uncles grow.

I'm unfamiliar with STS and applications though. thats above me right now. What are you trying to do with it?
 

MintyDreadlocks

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also its winter time and my humidifer isnt doing shit on full blast in my tent and im creeping at 35 RH %...

gotta get that up some how. whats the best way? damp towel?
 

mistergrafik

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Damn that is gnarly. I Didn't know u were dealing with mutations as well right now. That is a sick one to have i've seen it in my buddies uncles grow.

I'm unfamiliar with STS and applications though. thats above me right now. What are you trying to do with it?
Common for people to use CS. The STS is much smaller and permeates the cells perfectly. Stops the production of ethylene.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677914/

99% success with STS, but only 70% with CS.
 
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mistergrafik

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also its winter time and my humidifer isnt doing shit on full blast in my tent and im creeping at 35 RH %...

gotta get that up some how. whats the best way? damp towel?
I'm in my grow often making sure the music is good so I am always able to keep them wet by spraying.

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I was at a week of 26%. I used to do white rock on the floor that I could keep slightly wet and prop the pot on for drainage. Like in the nature - rocks will stay cooler and wet. I don't do it anymore I use perlite same difference I think the rocks were better.
 

BBQtoast

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These are all errors in replication and not code, if I ask DNA to replicate it can produce errors when placed in the wrong environment. You are seeing this but the code stays the same which means that replication error did not imprint it's genetic trait and there is no code for these mutations to carry into another generation.

It's like cancer, I get a tumor grow on my neck, do I now have the cancer trait which passes onto my kids and makes a neck tumour on them? Then I get cured, where have those tumour genetics gone?

I could have DNA which is more prone to replicate errors and make cancer but their is no cancer trait and that is a spontaneous condition that wasn't there when I was born.

Brown hair is a trait, cancer is not a trait, one breeds the other is a result of DNA breaking down. Your plant has a type of cancer not mutation, stress causes hormones to make DNA divide that shouldn't be recieving it and you have the wrong type of environment for it.

The petiole of a leaf just like a stalk or stem contains cells that can replicate branches, roots, leaves, bud and is well studied in the genetic world, even a few cells from a stem can replicate a whole plant and it's been done with cell culture s. That's all you are seeing, there is no DNA that makes three leafed seeds but there is a condition in a plant where at the moment the seeds first cells divide a simple genetic error from hormonal stress can trigger an extra leaf to replicate. The DNA stays the same it's just replicated wrongly, if you extracted that DNA you would see it's missing segments and degraded compared to the original, breed this and you get Futher breakdowns and a dead end just like the result of cancer.

You shoot down what you don't know and aren't prepared to accept, it's been done before which is the reason these type of strains don't and cannot exist.
 

mistergrafik

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These are all errors in replication and not code, if I ask DNA to replicate it can produce errors when placed in the wrong environment. You are seeing this but the code stays the same which means that replication error did not imprint it's genetic trait and there is no code for these mutations to carry into another generation.

It's like cancer, I get a tumor grow on my neck, do I now have the cancer trait which passes onto my kids and makes a neck tumour on them? Then I get cured, where have those tumour genetics gone?

I could have DNA which is more prone to replicate errors and make cancer but their is no cancer trait and that is a spontaneous condition that wasn't there when I was born.

Brown hair is a trait, cancer is not a trait, one breeds the other is a result of DNA breaking down. Your plant has a type of cancer not mutation, stress causes hormones to make DNA divide that shouldn't be recieving it and you have the wrong type of environment for it.

The petiole of a leaf just like a stalk or stem contains cells that can replicate branches, roots, leaves, bud and is well studied in the genetic world, even a few cells from a stem can replicate a whole plant and it's been done with cell culture s. That's all you are seeing, there is no DNA that makes three leafed seeds but there is a condition in a plant where at the moment the seeds first cells divide a simple genetic error from hormonal stress can trigger an extra leaf to replicate. The DNA stays the same it's just replicated wrongly, if you extracted that DNA you would see it's missing segments and degraded compared to the original, breed this and you get Futher breakdowns and a dead end just like the result of cancer.

You shoot down what you don't know and aren't prepared to accept, it's been done before which is the reason these type of strains don't and cannot exist.
For the sake of ones imagination - it would be very cool indeed to see a plant with each fan leaf protruding spears ; Regardless if it's possibility is limited
 

weedRus

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Time to rename this the broscience thread. Nitrogen starved plants with yellow leaves being called variegated. A common mutation being touted as a new discovery. Hopefully new growers don't believe this nonsense and continue to spread more ridiculous broscience.

Plant enough seeds and you'll get seedlings that do odd things.

Tri leaf



Double sprout

there you go again...the thread should be renamed losers who blame everything on nitrogen...lol, you have a lot to learn son!
 

MintyDreadlocks

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These are all errors in replication and not code, if I ask DNA to replicate it can produce errors when placed in the wrong environment. You are seeing this but the code stays the same which means that replication error did not imprint it's genetic trait and there is no code for these mutations to carry into another generation.

It's like cancer, I get a tumor grow on my neck, do I now have the cancer trait which passes onto my kids and makes a neck tumour on them? Then I get cured, where have those tumour genetics gone?

I could have DNA which is more prone to replicate errors and make cancer but their is no cancer trait and that is a spontaneous condition that wasn't there when I was born.

Brown hair is a trait, cancer is not a trait, one breeds the other is a result of DNA breaking down. Your plant has a type of cancer not mutation, stress causes hormones to make DNA divide that shouldn't be recieving it and you have the wrong type of environment for it.

The petiole of a leaf just like a stalk or stem contains cells that can replicate branches, roots, leaves, bud and is well studied in the genetic world, even a few cells from a stem can replicate a whole plant and it's been done with cell culture s. That's all you are seeing, there is no DNA that makes three leafed seeds but there is a condition in a plant where at the moment the seeds first cells divide a simple genetic error from hormonal stress can trigger an extra leaf to replicate. The DNA stays the same it's just replicated wrongly, if you extracted that DNA you would see it's missing segments and degraded compared to the original, breed this and you get Futher breakdowns and a dead end just like the result of cancer.

You shoot down what you don't know and aren't prepared to accept, it's been done before which is the reason these type of strains don't and cannot exist.
for the last time. im not trying anything here except for some LST lol. Someone made the comment about preserving the 'trait' and i entertained the idea and discussed it a bit not expecting any action as a result of said discussion. I have never bred plants so of course the idea interested me

i appreciate taking the time for the constructive post though.
 

Kassiopeija

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but the guy isn't exactly 100% honest about the deviations of his genetics - he *claims* that cannabis and a special variety of hops - japanese hops (homulus lupus japonicus - which is now ordered on its own IRRC) can be crossed, but "only" if special requirements were met. The way he told the story was he had grafted cannabis onto hops and there is an actual intermediate zone of combined host + guest DNA - which can be extracted and formed into a new plant - a CHIMERA. Which would then be compatible....

The truth? Most likely just either variegated hops or cannabis derived from DucksFoot or ABC....
 
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