First time making Bubble Hash - 74G total yield!

Cabrone

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Those tanks go on the inlet side, not the outlet side. The outlet is not under pressure so it would never fill the bladder.
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Really? Are they being deceptive, or am I not reading this correctly?
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jonnynobody

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My RO just runs direct to the ice machine. My ice maker complained at first but once it filled the internal reservoir the RO speed didn't matter. Which ice maker did you get?

I do run an Aquatec 8800 with a 2.5 gallon accumulator on the inlet side since I don't have enough water pressure for the RO system, but even with that I only get a slow flow on the clean side.



Those tanks go on the inlet side, not the outlet side. The outlet is not under pressure so it would never fill the bladder.
Would a tee on the RO output connected to a pressurized bladder adequately tank feed an ice maker? When I turn on my RO faucet in the kitchen the flow fills a 52oz mug in about 10 seconds. I can't imagine you need more pressure than that to feed a little ice maker. But I've never hooked up my RO to an ice maker either. I know each system has pressure requirements, so as long as the RO storage tank reaches the required pressure there should be no issue right? This is an interesting conversation because eventually I will need to hookup my RO to an ice maker in the basement.
 

SuperiorBuds

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Really? Are they being deceptive, or am I not reading this correctly?
You're reading it right, but misunderstanding what it's doing. All that tank does on the outlet side is hold a volume of water, it doesn't increase the pressure beyond what the RO system is producing, so it won't solve the issue of low pressure. The only way to increase the pressure into that tank is to add a booster pump, but the RO unit would need to produce water at a faster rate in that situation as well.

Would a tee on the RO output connected to a pressurized bladder adequately tank feed an ice maker?
Yes, you could do that, but I still don't think its needed. My ice maker complained about low pressure, but as soon as its internal reservoir was filled it was fine. By the time a batch of ice was made it had already refilled the reservoir. The only time I can see this being a problem is if you have a giant commercial unit that produces ice very quickly. My little commercial unit produces a batch of ice every 8 minutes and that's plenty of time for the RO to stay caught up. When washing hash I do not make the ice on the fly, I premake all the bags I need and store them in the freezer. Going with a smaller machine saved me hundreds on the ice maker.

My RO comes out and goes into a manifold I built where it gets separated into multiple runs. I have one going to a float valve in the RO reservoir, one to the ice maker, one to the humidifier, and one going to a float valve that handles reservoir top-offs.
 

jonnynobody

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You're reading it right, but misunderstanding what it's doing. All that tank does on the outlet side is hold a volume of water, it doesn't increase the pressure beyond what the RO system is producing, so it won't solve the issue of low pressure. The only way to increase the pressure into that tank is to add a booster pump, but the RO unit would need to produce water at a faster rate in that situation as well.



Yes, you could do that, but I still don't think its needed. My ice maker complained about low pressure, but as soon as its internal reservoir was filled it was fine. By the time a batch of ice was made it had already refilled the reservoir. The only time I can see this being a problem is if you have a giant commercial unit that produces ice very quickly. My little commercial unit produces a batch of ice every 8 minutes and that's plenty of time for the RO to stay caught up. When washing hash I do not make the ice on the fly, I premake all the bags I need and store them in the freezer. Going with a smaller machine saved me hundreds on the ice maker.

My RO comes out and goes into a manifold I built where it gets separated into multiple runs. I have one going to a float valve in the RO reservoir, one to the ice maker, one to the humidifier, and one going to a float valve that handles reservoir top-offs.
I run a 150GPD 1:1 water saver unit and split to 3 different reservoirs on float valves and a tee that goes to a tank under my sink in the kitchen. Love my float valves :)

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Dealgrowz

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I just purchased a Scotsman and im considering a demand pump, splitting the RO outlet to run to a secondary tank and running that to my ice machine.20210105_100950.jpg20210105_100950.jpg20210105_101004.jpg
 

Dealgrowz

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You're reading it right, but misunderstanding what it's doing. All that tank does on the outlet side is hold a volume of water, it doesn't increase the pressure beyond what the RO system is producing, so it won't solve the issue of low pressure. The only way to increase the pressure into that tank is to add a booster pump, but the RO unit would need to produce water at a faster rate in that situation as well.



Yes, you could do that, but I still don't think its needed. My ice maker complained about low pressure, but as soon as its internal reservoir was filled it was fine. By the time a batch of ice was made it had already refilled the reservoir. The only time I can see this being a problem is if you have a giant commercial unit that produces ice very quickly. My little commercial unit produces a batch of ice every 8 minutes and that's plenty of time for the RO to stay caught up. When washing hash I do not make the ice on the fly, I premake all the bags I need and store them in the freezer. Going with a smaller machine saved me hundreds on the ice maker.

My RO comes out and goes into a manifold I built where it gets separated into multiple runs. I have one going to a float valve in the RO reservoir, one to the ice maker, one to the humidifier, and one going to a float valve that handles reservoir top-offs.

This helps a lot! Gives me a lot of confidence. I have a 300gpd sleath RO system. I think just adding a booster pump to the unit and running that to the ice machine will work i thinks its worth a try and if anything will just improve the performance of my RO then back to drawing board
 

SuperiorBuds

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I run a 150GPD 1:1 water saver unit and split to 3 different reservoirs on float valves and a tee that goes to a tank under my sink in the kitchen. Love my float valves :)
Nice! I have my RO unit in the flower room where my water source is located. From there I run the water out of the room and into my reservoir chamber where I have the little manifold breaking it into 3 separate runs, each with their own ball valve. The 3 items that use water (humidifier, ice maker, and RO reservoir) don't really require a bunch of flow, so it works well.

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I have a 300gpd sleath RO system. I think just adding a booster pump to the unit and running that to the ice machine will work i thinks its worth a try and if anything will just improve the performance of my RO then back to drawing board
That's a big ice maker, but you also have 2x the flow of the RO unit I have, so I think you should be good to go once you get the booster pump.

Here's the kit I use and recommend.


The pump is great and it comes with the pressure switch you'll want to keep the correct range. This will have the pump run on and off in short bursts, but dialing it in can reduce that and if it's too annoying you can always add an accumulator (pressure tank) on the supply side.
 

Dealgrowz

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Nice! I have my RO unit in the flower room where my water source is located. From there I run the water out of the room and into my reservoir chamber where I have the little manifold breaking it into 3 separate runs, each with their own ball valve. The 3 items that use water (humidifier, ice maker, and RO reservoir) don't really require a bunch of flow, so it works well.

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That's a big ice maker, but you also have 2x the flow of the RO unit I have, so I think you should be good to go once you get the booster pump.

Here's the kit I use and recommend.


The pump is great and it comes with the pressure switch you'll want to keep the correct range. This will have the pump run on and off in short bursts, but dialing it in can reduce that and if it's too annoying you can always add an accumulator (pressure tank) on the supply side.

I just bought a booster pump for my RO machine. Ill let you guys know how it goes. I bought one slightly more powerful than the one your have to account for the larger size .

 

Dealgrowz

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Goddam sir. Now that's a fucking ice machine! Go ahead and brush that dirt off your shoulders, because you are officially big pimpin :)
After a full year of hashing hard im reinvesting all I have back into my "igloo" going to set myself up nice for 2021
 

jonnynobody

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Nice! I have my RO unit in the flower room where my water source is located. From there I run the water out of the room and into my reservoir chamber where I have the little manifold breaking it into 3 separate runs, each with their own ball valve. The 3 items that use water (humidifier, ice maker, and RO reservoir) don't really require a bunch of flow, so it works well.

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That's a big ice maker, but you also have 2x the flow of the RO unit I have, so I think you should be good to go once you get the booster pump.

Here's the kit I use and recommend.


The pump is great and it comes with the pressure switch you'll want to keep the correct range. This will have the pump run on and off in short bursts, but dialing it in can reduce that and if it's too annoying you can always add an accumulator (pressure tank) on the supply side.
I've been getting into making hash oil capsules recently and I really like them. A lot :) Ever since you dropped the live plant bubble hash to hash rosin knowledge bomb on me the wheels in my brain have been turning. I don't ever have a desire to produce hash rosin, but I would love to do an ice wash run of a freshly chopped plant the way you do to see how it shakes out for use in my hash oil capsules. Preserving those terpenes and flavor profiles would make for some really stellar hash burps :) I hear some strains perform really poorly when ice washed from freshly chopped. The way I've heard others discuss it is that some strains just don't want to shed a lot of glands, whereas other strains make it rain glands. Having never done it myself I have no first hand experience, but I would love to give it a try. What strain might you suggest for a rookie doing their first live plant bubble hash run? I truly wouldn't even know where to begin.
 
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