question about lighting in flower?

[MICHI-CAN]

mine never failed yet..must've been a bad brand

And what you replaced over the course of your life as a result of electrical/ electronic failure? As opposed to actual mechanical failure. On my umpteenth digital temp/ hygro. Same accurate mechanical from the 70's over seeing my tent. Sorry but true.

 

[kovidkough]

smart plugs are way better you can't change my mind. I simply don't understand why you'd chose mechanical but I suppose some things are better left in the stone age. as I've said its a simple process to connect a plug to your phone. you can run different schedules off 1 switch...I dunno to each their own. mine hasn't failed me, lights always turn on and off when I want and I get notifications for every little thing that happens. I have been needing these forever. even works great for automated feeds when you need weird timer increments like anything under those 15min timers.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

smart plugs are way better you can't change my mind. I simply don't understand why you'd chose mechanical but I suppose some things are better left in the stone age. as I've said its a simple process to connect a plug to your phone. you can run different schedules off 1 switch...I dunno to each their own. mine hasn't failed me, lights always turn on and off when I want and I get notifications for every little thing that happens. I have been needing these forever. even works great for automated feeds when you need weird timer increments like anything under those 15min timers.
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Yes. I agree. Yet a few things are just shiny versions of mine because mine are proven. Enjoy the lightweight, cheaper for profit that engineered to fail to promote sales
'profit". LOL. LOve ya. But a wit bit more versed than you.

And both do 12/12. Apologies OP. Get a timer.

 

[rmax]

Some people flower with 8h. Cheers!

I was just wondering if not 12/12, what is the minimum the light has to be on in flower?

 

[kovidkough]

they are "engineered " to fail lmao.

these aren't nutrient lines

I'm seriously picturing an evil engineer going muahhaha the coding on these will misfire exactly at 2 years into operation muahahah

 

[ColoradoHighGrower]

I use both mechanical and smart timers- the wifi ones are pretty cool for sure, and also use them for house lights while away. You can even control manually via app over mobile data from anywhere in the world.

 

[PJ Diaz]

mine never failed yet..must've been a bad brand

I have the WEMO smart plugs, which are made by Belkin.

How long have you been using yours?

 

[kovidkough]

https://www.amazon.com/Gosund-Compatible-Required-appliances-Certified/dp/B079MFTYMV/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=smart+plug&qid=1610956250&sprefix=smart+plug&sr=8-3

few years now these never fail.

if your worried about a network crashing you can create one specifically for your smart devices.

hide the SSID for those who are paranoid

its really simple. quiet ingenious really
if something is amis i can instantly check my Webcam from anywhere aswell.

 

[PJ Diaz]

https://www.amazon.com/Gosund-Compatible-Required-appliances-Certified/dp/B079MFTYMV/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=smart+plug&qid=1610956250&sprefix=smart+plug&sr=8-3

few years now these never fail.

if your worried about a network crashing you can create one specifically for your smart devices.

hide the SSID for those who are paranoid

its really simple. quiet ingenious really
if something is amis i can instantly check my Webcam from anywhere aswell.

The place I work is susceptible to brown outs, which is likely why they have failed for me in the past. I often have to reboot electronic equipment following brownouts.

 

[osowhom]

I still prefer to do everything manually and make sure everything is smooth so far so good I will but a timer in case I have to work a double shift but only use it if I must

 

[Wastei]

they are "engineered " to fail lmao.

these aren't nutrient lines

I'm seriously picturing an evil engineer going muahhaha the coding on these will misfire exactly at 2 years into operation muahahah

I want to live in your reality. Ever heard of planned obscelecense?

It's built into practically everything. I know because I've been fixing said problems on inkjet and laser printers. The software counts pages and not wear on the parts.

On Canon inkjet printer there's a waste bin for excess ink at the bottom of the units. When it contains to much waste ink the printer receives an unspecified error. This ALWAYS occur after the warranty period has passed.

You can fix this by emptying the waste bin and go into service mode and reset the printer to factory stock settings.

 

[kovidkough]

I want to live in your reality. Ever heard of planned obscelecense?

It's built into practically everything. I know because I've been fixing said problems on inkjet and laser printers. The software counts pages and not wear on the parts.

On Canon inkjet printer there's a waste bin for excess ink at the bottom of the units. When it contains to much waste ink the printer receives an unspecified error. This ALWAYS occur after the warranty period has passed.

You can fix this by emptying the waste bin and go into service mode and reset the printer to factory stock settings.

so you really believe the guys programming plug n play timers are in a coup to make their tech obsolete ... man you guys need to get out more. I'm sure this is a reality in bigger markets but we are talking relatively cheap tech that simply makes life easier. obviously going from mechanical to digital is a hot button topic...yeesh

odds are the person will fk up before the machine

 

[Severed Tongue]

I bought four CE Smart plugs and couldn't be happier. Two are on lights, one on a in-line fan and one on a clone bucket.

Automation with power usage monitoring, scenes and scheduling for $10 / plug (Canadian $$ bought at Costco).

Wi-Fi Smart Plug with Energy Monitoring - LA-WF7 | Charging Essentials

 

[Wastei]

so you really believe the guys programming plug n play timers are in a coup to make their tech obsolete ... man you guys need to get out more. I'm sure this is a reality in bigger markets but we are talking relatively cheap tech that simply makes life easier. obviously going from mechanical to digital is a hot button topic...yeesh

odds are the person will fk up before the machine

I don't believe anything. I just know planned obscelecense exist and is common practice. I also know this world is based on profit at any cost. If it's not in the software it's often on the mechanical side with undersized components just passing specs.

 

[kovidkough]

ok well I'm sure this exists at higher levels i.e the LED market's, definitely not arguing its existence in the world but hell these are 20$ timers, just get another one. they are among the cheapest of aspects of the grow...

 

[PJ Diaz]

I've had the same $10 mechanical timer for over 10 years now, and it's never once failed. I've had digital timers and also smart timers fail.. multiple times. They all work, until they don't. I currently have 5 timers in my grow space (2 mechanical, 3 digital - including one dual timer). I use different timers for different reasons. Digitals are great if you need to set your programs to the minute or second, but mechanical timers are rock solid. For some reason one of my digital timers is slow compared to the others, so I have to set it forward 5 minutes every few months. I'd like to get a smart timer for my EV charger, so that I can turn it off and on remotely, but I'm not sure if the timers can take 16amps or not. The EV charger can surge, and those smart plugs look so cute and little, I'm not sure they can handle the surge.