Is the Keystone cancelation a good thing?

[xtsho]

hopefully covid will bring down human population enough so consumerism goes down and using non renewable energy for mass production wont be necessary anymore.

That's the most disgusting post I've read in a long time.

What if it's you and your family succumbing to the virus and helping to bring the population down? It's great in your mind if people die unless it's those around you. Have you no shame? Have you no compassion for those that have lost loved ones?

You're fucking post is sick. The mindset that would post something like you just did is disturbing.

Go look in the mirror and think about who you are. Then think about your post. If you still agree with your post then repost it. If you realize how obscene it was then come back and retract it.

 

[Mr_X]

My whole point is green tech is at best a supplementary deal. Fossil fuel is still king, as unfortunate as it is. We’d all love something safe, renewable, and cheap...it just doesn’t exist yet.

reduce human population and the demand for energy wont be so high, and clean renewable energy will be viable. let covid do its thing so we dont have so much energy consumption, otherwise we'll just have to make due with whats clean, cost efficient, and energy efficient for the given population in an area.

 

[Mr_X]

That's the most disgusting post I've read in a long time.

What if it's you and your family succumbing to the virus and helping to bring the population down? It's great in your mind if people die unless it's those around you. Have you no shame? Have you no compassion for those that have lost loved ones?

You're fucking post is sick. The mindset that would post something like you just did is disturbing.

Go look in the mirror and think about who you are. Then think about your post. If you still agree with your post then repost it. If you realize how obscene it was then come back and retract it.

im pretty good at dehumanizing people. i believe in survival of the fittest and natural selection. if your genetics suck, then it was to be like mother nature intended. we need to stop playing god. the world would be a better cleaner place without consumerism and human existence. anti masker and non voter reporting in btw.

 

[printer]

Hydro is extremely destructive to ecological systems, fish ladders are a bs diversion tactic. Dams fuck up the environment due to fish runs and animal migration routes. It’s actually one of the worst “green” technologies. That’s why dams are actually coming down all over, to return the ecology to where it’s supposed to be. You can’t call something that kills wildlife “green” or renewable.

And

That's the most disgusting post I've read in a long time.

What if it's you and your family succumbing to the virus and helping to bring the population down? It's great in your mind if people die unless it's those around you. Have you no shame? Have you no compassion for those that have lost loved ones?

You're fucking post is sick. The mindset that would post something like you just did is disturbing.

Go look in the mirror and think about who you are. Then think about your post. If you still agree with your post then repost it. If you realize how obscene it was then come back and retract it.

We consume too much. I have said the same to a coworker in 2002. I said the Chinese will attain our standard of living, he said we can't let them. Well they are getting close. Then there is India next. They all want what we got. What is the solution? We have to start working on the big picture. That was what Trump ignored when he wanted to turn the US's back on the world ant pretend you could return to the 60's.

 

[Mr_X]

the only way to solve over population and pollution is getting rid of the source. us.

 

[Frankly Dankly]

im pretty good at dehumanizing people. i believe in survival of the fittest and natural selection. if your genetics suck, then it was to be like mother nature intended. we need to stop playing god. the world would be a better cleaner place without consumerism and human existence. anti masker and non voter reporting in btw.

Xtsho is a hard liner comrade. He’s basically just a silly white knight, and talking down to people that actually want to discuss shit is his schtick. He usually offers nothing more than, I’m better than you, you’re disgusting for having a different opinion. A very myopic view of life. I fully agree that survival of the fittest is for all species, and that we are not god, thus not immune to failure of a species. Most people think they and their families are above natural selection because the human race has stemmed it a bit.

 

[Frankly Dankly]

And

We consume too much. I have said the same to a coworker in 2002. I said the Chinese will attain our standard of living, he said we can't let them. Well they are getting close. Then there is India next. They all want what we got. What is the solution? We have to start working on the big picture. That was what Trump ignored when he wanted to turn the US's back on the world ant pretend you could return to the 60's.

You’re almost there man. We can be America first, we didn’t turn our backs, we just stopped putting everyone else first. All the gains we made will be given away.

 

[xtsho]

im pretty good at dehumanizing people. i believe in survival of the fittest and natural selection. if your genetics suck, then it was to be like mother nature intended. we need to stop playing god. the world would be a better cleaner place without consumerism and human existence. anti masker and non voter reporting in btw.

You're dehumanizing yourself. You're just too stupid to realize it.

Xtsho is a hard liner comrade. He’s basically just a silly white knight, and talking down to people that actually want to discuss shit is his schtick. He usually offers nothing more than, I’m better than you, you’re disgusting for having a different opinion. A very myopic view of life. I fully agree that survival of the fittest is for all species, and that we are not god, thus not immune to failure of a species. Most people think they and their families are above natural selection because the human race has stemmed it a bit.

And you're just someone I could care less about. What you say, what you do, etc...

You defend someone that is advocating for millions of people to die.

You people are sick.

 

[Mr_X]

Most people think they and their families are above natural selection because the human race has stemmed it a bit.

companionship and the need to breed is a natural instinct mammals have. get past that and you'll be fine.

 

[Mr_X]

i need money to support my offspring! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Frankly Dankly]

companionship and the need to breed is a natural instinct mammals have. get past that and you'll be fine.

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Yep. Further the line and you’ve already done what you were put here for. I’ve done mine, the rest is frosting.

 

[Mr_X]

humans ruined the plant, and im helping clean up the mess we made by not wearing a mask. humans need to go.

 

[Frankly Dankly]

humans ruined the plant, and im helping clean up the mess we made by not wearing a mask. humans need to go.

I ain’t going that far, but I’m doing my no mask part, lol. Live free or die, amirite? Also, breathe free.

 

[xtsho]

humans ruined the plant, and im helping clean up the mess we made by not wearing a mask. humans need to go.

How about you start with yourself? Be part of the solution not the problem. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Mr_X]

I ain’t going that far, but I’m doing my no mask part, lol. Live free or die, amirite? Also, breathe free.

i live in a redhat area, and i used to wear a mask. i overheard an old lady and her friend talk about the election and virus. one of them said, "it will be over before the election." thats when i thought to myself, "fuck this mask shit. you want to play games like that? lets go. yolo"

 

[Mr_X]

do people not believe in natural selection anymore? wtf.
compassion is just a byproduct of neurotransmitters regulating the dopamine and serotonin in your brain. its all instinct. get over it.

 

[rkymtnman]

The point is

... to keep your crap oil north of the border. you remove the tar sand sludge, you ship or pipe it, you refine it, you sell it to china.

there's a reason why canada doesn't want to pipe and refine it. i know why: your gov't has said so publicly.

 

[Kdoggy]

So basically the argument is the not in my backyard. Ship the oil from Venezuela have the odd sea disaster and deal with political instability. The us uses 20mil gpd of oil canada supplies 3.5mil a day not even a 1/5th of what usa needs. Its pretty irrelevant stopping that pipeline that wasnt going to be even a mil bpd. Usa needs oil to drive your gdp so its really just political postering. Until everyone stops using oil which isnt happening in our lifetime figure out where you want to buy it from. You ship oil out on pipelines to the east coast and dont want to ship oil in its pot calling the kettle black.

 

[rkymtnman]

Usa needs oil to drive your gdp so its really just political postering

canada need oil more than the US to sustain their own gdp. keep that toxic sludge in your own country.

 

[hanimmal]

Just curious how everyone feels about the pipeline being canceled. Is it going to lower emissions or is it just optics? I think it will mostly be optics in regards to the global warming reductions but still optics can be good thing.

After falling into the trap of reading the trolling, I had a thought.

Since we need to 'New Deal' level response to everything going on right now. And instead of thinking small with the pipeline. Use those train tracks to tear them all up and dig the pipeline under a whole new rail system.

And that entire infrastructure going into those rails can also contain rural piped water/electricity/whatever I don't even know enough about to include in a underground grid that could get laid at the same time.

They could also redo the crumbling roads/highways with it as we go have a way to plug in new pathways over time (no reason to dig up new roads now, but in 50years there will be something for them to plug new lines into).

But for now they could do the 1st rail/pipe system and not have to go through ripping apart new land.

Im sure it would be expensive as hell, but if this is that profitable, it would be worth getting a estimate.

do people not believe in natural selection anymore? wtf.
compassion is just a byproduct of neurotransmitters regulating the dopamine and serotonin in your brain. its all instinct. get over it.

The troll definition of it or the actual science?

What you said was pretty fucked up.

So basically the argument is the not in my backyard. Ship the oil from Venezuela have the odd sea disaster and deal with political instability. The us uses 20mil gpd of oil canada supplies 3.5mil a day not even a 1/5th of what usa needs. Its pretty irrelevant stopping that pipeline that wasnt going to be even a mil bpd. Usa needs oil to drive your gdp so its really just political postering. Until everyone stops using oil which isnt happening in our lifetime figure out where you want to buy it from. You ship oil out on pipelines to the east coast and dont want to ship oil in its pot calling the kettle black.

Nah, it is get off the need to burn everything as a society.

It is just laziness and a handful of rich people keeping us on the tit.