Covid-19

curious2garden

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So Philadelphia partners with a 22 y/o kid with zero public health education or experience who says this,

“The old best practices in healthcare in terms of intramuscular injections were written for a hospital visit that would take 30 minutes that you would bill for as a provider visit,” Doroshin told HealthDay in an interview last week. “Most of those best practices can go out the window.”

Then they are shocked when shit goes south and all those vaccines are bootlegged or wasted. The reason best practices and well trained practitioners exist isn't because it's technically difficult to jab someone with a needle into a muscle but because if someone reacts you have to know how to save them and you have mere minutes to do it and that's just the most urgent of the reasons why this should not be diverted from the Public Health experts.

I'm not even launching into tracking of longterm consequences and side effect tracking they are not set up to do! I'm so sick and tired of government's bowing to a poorly educated group's rejection of science, possibly because of their own anti-education bias.
/rant
 

DarkWeb

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@curious2garden
My step mother got put on a ventilator yesterday :-(
She fought like hell but the doctor said it is time. She said she absolutely did not want to be put on it and they were discussing a DNR but she gave in.
What odds would you say she has? 50%? That’s what the doc said.
Think positive bud. Today is my dad's first day back at work. He was in icu a few weeks. :hug:
 

curious2garden

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My step mother got put on a ventilator yesterday :-(
She fought like hell but the doctor said it is time. She said she absolutely did not want to be put on it and they were discussing a DNR but she gave in.
What odds would you say she has? 50%? That’s what the doc said.
That's a real shame she fought going on it. It would have improved her odds to have gone on it earlier rather than later. You wear yourself down fighting it and they can keep you asleep nowadays on a ventilator. Which is a huge stress reducer which siphons off energy you need for healing while you are in ICU. ICUs are very stressful places for patients.

Quoting odds isn't really useful. Statistics (odds) describe a population but for a patient it's binary; you live or you die. It's like playing poker you have odds of different hands but when you're playing your hand it's binary between types of hands. You get the cards or you don't.

I could go on and on about all the different nuanced things that could turn in her favor or against. The best thing you can do is pray. I'm serious, prayer and laughter reach patients and have demonstrably helped. So focus your attention on her and visualize her healthy and well, doing what she loves. I will include her in my prayers.
:hug: :hug:
 

BudmanTX

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Sorry @Aeroknow :|

Looks like the Ontario lockdown is FINALLY bearing fruit. 1,670 new cases today, third day in a row that it's been under 2,000. A seven day average of less than 1,000 cases per day is the threshold to start opening back up.

My partner is getting tested now. I'm not getting the test again unless I absolutely have to.

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your number are about the same as ours down here, we recorded 1500 new cases plus in one day
 
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