SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

[meangreengrowinmachine]

I top dressed the flowering ladies with some of the soil I have cooking mixed with ewc and some bat guano (i know big no no I bought it on a whim long ago and won't again) then covered them with some malted barley mixed with mollases and em1 water to keep the tops more moist. Hopefully this will clear up whatever is going on with the middle 2. I will give them more phed water ... and cheat and add some cal mag, to the rez's tomorrow.


Also nodded my bubble machine to have a bigger hose and tested it for leaks. Cut my bags to frenchie specs and have my trim all freezing, micro plane and brand new pizza boxes ready. I think I am finally ready to get it done!

 

[GrownAtHighAltitude]

Day 18 and I'm so happy I decided to go with this setup. All I have to do is add water to the barrel. I've given them tea twice. Loving 12/1 / 8/16 light schedule also, I'm really happy with development (and costs) so far. I used cheap-o CMH lights from Ebay and lit the whole thing for $1000 (4 x 315s).

Going to fill it out the rest of the way as soon as I can insulate the wall a bit better.

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

Day 18 and I'm so happy I decided to go with this setup. All I have to do is add water to the barrel. I've given them tea twice. Loving 12/1 / 8/16 light schedule also, I'm really happy with development (and costs) so far. I used cheap-o CMH lights from Ebay and lit the whole thing for $1000 (4 x 315s).

Going to fill it out the rest of the way as soon as I can insulate the wall a bit better.

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Nice looking plants... what is this light schedule you are talking about though?

 

[Tim Fox]

I top dressed the flowering ladies with some of the soil I have cooking mixed with ewc and some bat guano (i know big no no I bought it on a whim long ago and won't again) then covered them with some malted barley mixed with mollases and em1 water to keep the tops more moist. Hopefully this will clear up whatever is going on with the middle 2. I will give them more phed water ... and cheat and add some cal mag, to the rez's tomorrow.


Also nodded my bubble machine to have a bigger hose and tested it for leaks. Cut my bags to frenchie specs and have my trim all freezing, micro plane and brand new pizza boxes ready. I think I am finally ready to get it done!

THats so cool,, always fun to see other cob growers

 

[Tim Fox]

Day 18 and I'm so happy I decided to go with this setup. All I have to do is add water to the barrel. I've given them tea twice. Loving 12/1 / 8/16 light schedule also, I'm really happy with development (and costs) so far. I used cheap-o CMH lights from Ebay and lit the whole thing for $1000 (4 x 315s).

Going to fill it out the rest of the way as soon as I can insulate the wall a bit better.

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so amazing, nice and thick, a lush jungle,, its going to be a good finish

 

[GrownAtHighAltitude]

Nice looking plants... what is this light schedule you are talking about though?

12 on, 5.5 off, 1 on, 5.5 off for veg (known as 12/1)
8/16 for flower

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

12 on, 5.5 off, 1 on, 5.5 off for veg (known as 12/1)
8/16 for flower

Huh never heard of that one. I'll stick with 24 on in veg and 18 6 in flower hope it works out for you man!

 

[GrownAtHighAltitude]

Huh never heard of that one. I'll stick with 24 on in veg and 18 6 in flower hope it works out for you man!

More about it here: http://www.growlikejoe.com/growing/ -- it really does work and there is scientific research behind it. Cannabis plants don't actually need all the light we give them. My buds finished to the correct size on my last two runs. I've just stepped it up with this room.

 

[meangreengrowinmachine]

More about it here: http://www.growlikejoe.com/growing/ -- it really does work and there is scientific research behind it. Cannabis plants don't actually need all the light we give them. My buds finished to the correct size on my last two runs. I've just stepped it up with this room.

I just run 24 hour light mainly because I don't feel like worrying about light proofing another room or getting herms lol not doubting your results or anything man.

 

[GrownAtHighAltitude]

I just run 24 hour light mainly because I don't feel like worrying about light proofing another room or getting herms lol not doubting your results or anything man.

Only flower rooms need to be light proofed. I started out with 24hr veg years ago. I switched to 18/6 for a number of years and immediately noticed healthier plants. I have since learned that too much light can starve the rhizosphere. I notice now that my plants can veg a lot longer without showing nitrogen deficiency or being rootbound. I do all organic tho.

I have never had herm problems except when there were light leaks in flower. Veg doesn't matter, no matter what light schedule.

Hope that helps

 

[GrassBurner]

Finally grabbed a couple sip's from Lowes. $30 a piece Home Depot wants $60 for the same thing, fyi. These things are incredible!! The plants were 2 weeks old when I put them in the planters. Soil is coots mix soil, and I added half the recommended amount of Dr Earth "Homegrown" into the soil, and then added a couple tbsp into trenches.

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Day 14


Seeing how good they are performing, I wanted to make some more sips. After reading @kratos015 thread about his sips, I decided I would try making some using 5 gallon buckets. I had a couple air stones laying around, so I put them in there hoping to keep things fresh in the bucket. I had some 1.5" pvc pipe laying around, and some stainless screen from another project. I cut my pipe about 4" longer than the buckets height, with a 45* angle on one end. Then I rolled the mesh into a cylinder, and placed it in the tube. Hoping to keep the perlite from filling the tube and making my float guage useless.



I zip tied the pipe to the bucket, and ran the air line for the stone inside that zip tie to help keep it in place. Then filled the buckets up with perlite. These are the bobbers im using. I cut straws so that they are even with the fill tube at the proper water level, and slid them over the tops of the bobbers. I need to get a couple more straws and make them about 2" longer.




Thats pretty much it. Filled it up with water, sat the fabric pot on top, and plugged the air lines into the pump. Excited to see how they grow.

 

[Tim Fox]

Finally grabbed a couple sip's from Lowes. $30 a piece Home Depot wants $60 for the same thing, fyi. These things are incredible!! The plants were 2 weeks old when I put them in the planters. Soil is coots mix soil, and I added half the recommended amount of Dr Earth "Homegrown" into the soil, and then added a couple tbsp into trenches.

Day 1:
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Seeing how good they are performing, I wanted to make some more sips. After reading @kratos015 thread about his sips, I decided I would try making some using 5 gallon buckets. I had a couple air stones laying around, so I put them in there hoping to keep things fresh in the bucket. I had some 1.5" pvc pipe laying around, and some stainless screen from another project. I cut my pipe about 4" longer than the buckets height, with a 45* angle on one end. Then I rolled the mesh into a cylinder, and placed it in the tube. Hoping to keep the perlite from filling the tube and making my float guage useless.
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I zip tied the pipe to the bucket, and ran the air line for the stone inside that zip tie to help keep it in place. Then filled the buckets up with perlite. These are the bobbers im using. I cut straws so that they are even with the fill tube at the proper water level, and slid them over the tops of the bobbers. I need to get a couple more straws and make them about 2" longer.
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Thats pretty much it. Filled it up with water, sat the fabric pot on top, and plugged the air lines into the pump. Excited to see how they grow.
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Very interesting so is the whole res filled with perlite

 

[Tim Fox]

Finally grabbed a couple sip's from Lowes. $30 a piece Home Depot wants $60 for the same thing, fyi. These things are incredible!! The plants were 2 weeks old when I put them in the planters. Soil is coots mix soil, and I added half the recommended amount of Dr Earth "Homegrown" into the soil, and then added a couple tbsp into trenches.

Day 1:
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Day 14
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Seeing how good they are performing, I wanted to make some more sips. After reading @kratos015 thread about his sips, I decided I would try making some using 5 gallon buckets. I had a couple air stones laying around, so I put them in there hoping to keep things fresh in the bucket. I had some 1.5" pvc pipe laying around, and some stainless screen from another project. I cut my pipe about 4" longer than the buckets height, with a 45* angle on one end. Then I rolled the mesh into a cylinder, and placed it in the tube. Hoping to keep the perlite from filling the tube and making my float guage useless.
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I zip tied the pipe to the bucket, and ran the air line for the stone inside that zip tie to help keep it in place. Then filled the buckets up with perlite. These are the bobbers im using. I cut straws so that they are even with the fill tube at the proper water level, and slid them over the tops of the bobbers. I need to get a couple more straws and make them about 2" longer.
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Thats pretty much it. Filled it up with water, sat the fabric pot on top, and plugged the air lines into the pump. Excited to see how they grow.
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Makes for a 5 gallon res pretty cool

 

[GrassBurner]

Yeah I fill it up about 2" below the top of the perlite

 

[GrassBurner]

It is all perlite. Got the idea from Kratos' sips he set up. I wasn't aware perlite would wick water, but here we are

 

[Tim Fox]

It is all perlite. Got the idea from Kratos' sips he set up. I wasn't aware perlite would wick water, but here we are

for sure it does,, i tried hempy bucket once and it was all perlite,, did the same thing,, awesome work, they look great

 

[GrassBurner]

Thanks!!! I've been growing less than a year, and watering was my nemesis

 

[Tim Fox]

Thanks!!! I've been growing less than a year, and watering was my nemesis

dude, i totally hear you, i would over water, or under water, ugh,, no more,, the SIP takes care of everything,, not only that but the sip gets it just right, i know for a fact that my plants are drinking allot more water with the sip, that has to equate to faster and fuller growth

 

[raggyb]

Something like these ( https://www.amazon.com/LEDJump-Bright-Flexible-2500-2700k-Dimmable/dp/B0091L0GTY/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=led+strips+2700k&qid=1611652520&sr=8-6 ) not sure which one I bought without putting too much effort in. Its fancy when it costs almost nothing if the walls are ripped out. BTW you might want a triac driver with something like this (or wire it for PWM (0-10V) Meanwell drivers like they do in commercial buildings), so you can dim those mothers, also triple up over the sink for the dishwasher duties, you don't want to be called out for dirt on the pots and pans because of shadows.

More importantly concentrate on those plants, I know mine need more attention.

I'm thinking about making a clone tote with a sub watering tray filled with perlite/or lava rock/ or similar with my extra 2700k strip LEDs in a tote, maybe clear or opaque not sure, it depends if the plants are going into the flower room for warm or suffering in winter veg temps. Anyone do this? I know the kelvins are off.

I don't know if it's what you mean but I did a sub watering tray with perlite but not with a tote and not cloning but rather seedlings and clones with roots already. But the tray worked. someone said it's basically a hempy bucket. tray served it's purpose which was to not have to touch anything for weeks so mission accomplished. had clones/seedlings in little mesh pots filled with soil mix, sitting on top of perlite and water level to 1" below the perlite surface. auto gravity watered. when neglected long enough roots would grow from one plant through the perlite and into the other plants soil. i suppose you could put the cutting right in here without roots but I haven't tried it. also when neglected the perlite gets all covered with algae so maybe take a little more care to cover it. lastly fungus gnats do like this setup as well those little fuckers.

 

[Jesusgrowsmygrass]

I don't know if it's what you mean but I did a sub watering tray with perlite but not with a tote and not cloning but rather seedlings and clones with roots already. But the tray worked. someone said it's basically a hempy bucket. tray served it's purpose which was to not have to touch anything for weeks so mission accomplished. had clones/seedlings in little mesh pots filled with soil mix, sitting on top of perlite and water level to 1" below the perlite surface. auto gravity watered. when neglected long enough roots would grow from one plant through the perlite and into the other plants soil. i suppose you could put the cutting right in here without roots but I haven't tried it. also when neglected the perlite gets all covered with algae so maybe take a little more care to cover it. lastly fungus gnats do like this setup as well those little fuckers.

Yup, eactly, with a tote instead of a tray because it is what I have on hand.